Comm Thread XXXVII: drug free

[hermes]

wikipedia isn't a reputable academic source but 99.9% of the time, its right. people don't make stuff up on it, they attribute it to legit sources.

i laughed

[EArl]

I laughed at the 99.9% percent part.

[hermes]

Slava could weigh in on this, but there are limited visa slots of each type and I don't think it's as easy to stay here as you make it out.


Education is **** in America at all levels.

yeah i've heard its quite the process to even get a visa to come over here and study, and then they have to keep up fairly high grades to maintain their scholarships (or whatever funding source they have) to stay

[Gek]

i've graduated already, with 3 majors that correspond to journalism, marketing, and international studies/political science.

a quick wiki search- In the 2013 issue of U.S. News & World Report's "America's Best Colleges," the University of Miami was ranked 44th among national universities, the highest ranked in Florida.[135]

i don't want to belittle your accomplishments at all (its great, i only had one major) but it seems that those majors (and it would be nice for some input by others here) aren't taken very seriously (at least in the us) from what i've encountered (in terms of job prospects type things)

maybe not as bad as philosophy, or history but there you go

i apologize if i offend anyone for my possible ignorance

you're 100% correct. I'd reckon a lot of classes coincide too. Most kids I know in those programs or similar programs will be the first to admit the programs are borderline jokes.

Those majors were a lot of those 99%er protestors. Although I'm sure there is a serious financial upside with experience and an MBA with those degrees. The key word is experience though. Science/technical degrees actually learn necessary background stuff (biology, math, coding, etc) in college. Liberal arts party for 4 years then learn on the job.

Yes liberal arts degrees frustrate me.

[Gek]

wikipedia isn't a reputable academic source but 99.9% of the time, its right. people don't make stuff up on it, they attribute it to legit sources.

i laughed

I don't know the number now, but I wrote a term paper on the legitimacy of Wiki in high school and most mistakes are corrected in under a few minutes. Also, especially with science articles, I always just click the reference links and use Wiki as an index of sorts.

[ennui]

poli sci is a joke. no offense to anyone

[hermes]

Student loans are the next bubble.

even though i will probably be out of college by then, it will probably be good when that one bursts, because it is crazy out of control now and something needs to be done

hopefully the impending crash brings tuition costs back down to earth

[Kilroy]

Too late. Quoted it before you deleted it.

I ended up going to only my discussion today, so I have a lot of free time on my hands.

Wah????

Kilroy: What you get payed for your degree is based on what you major and the amount of effort you put into it.

Nice one.

When I don't learn anything in my lectures, I just read the textbook and study the lectures online.
I usually get more done this way.

Glad you got the joke... I deleted it because it seemed like more of an in person kind of thing. I was afraid it wouldn't go well.

[hermes]

Yeah man the amount of work you put into your degrees has absolutely nothing to do with how much money you will make or what job you find.

good to know i'm not losing out on future income by slacking off right now

[hermes]

You are just way off the base Kilroy, I never met one person who said he did not get an admission for a university that he is eligible for just because there were too many foreign students accepted to the program. If that was to happen, the university would just accommodate additional classes to cover the student base.

So what you have or haven't heard is fact? So you're willing to state categorically that no student has ever lost out to Foreign Applicant for a slot he was qualified for? When I was accepted to UCSB, I was one of 500 applicants accepted... Do you think out of the thousands of applicants for those same spots, not one of them lost out to someone from over-seas. Hell, over half of my room-mates in the dorms weren't US Nationals.

Don't take this personally.
I'm not attacking foreign students, I'm ridiculing the American Higher Education system.
And the acceptance practices I mentioned, happened.

http://chronicle.com/blogs/worldwise/wh ... cans/26855
http://www.nafsa.org/_/File/_/sepoct10_frontlines.pdf
seems to be no evidence that international students crowd out us students

[hermes]

Solid finish to the Community Thread on this internet message board.

trying to finish it off now

[EArl]

Hermes is on a roll.

[Doormatt]

poli sci is a joke. no offense to anyone

not really, in fact many people that start off as poli sci majors most often switch to law at some point (like me). its a pretty smooth transition in fact.


as a stand alone degree though its nothing special.

[hermes]

You're still missing the point... I'm aware of the quota system in US education... The quota is too high.

How is 10% too high Kilroy? Then why do people turn around and say we love the diversity in the American education system?

because there are negative ramifications to people who say they hate diversity

[EArl]

poli sci is a joke. no offense to anyone

not really, in fact many people that start off as poli sci majors most often switch to law at some point (like me). its a pretty smooth transition in fact.


as a stand alone degree though its nothing special.

Even Lawyers don't make much either. Unless you work for big evil corps.

[ennui]

poli sci is a joke. no offense to anyone

not really, in fact many people that start off as poli sci majors most often switch to law at some point (like me). its a pretty smooth transition in fact.


as a stand alone degree though its nothing special.

which is what i meant, plus you can switch to law from like any major iirc

[Doormatt]

poli sci is a joke. no offense to anyone

not really, in fact many people that start off as poli sci majors most often switch to law at some point (like me). its a pretty smooth transition in fact.


as a stand alone degree though its nothing special.

which is what i meant, plus you can switch to law from like any major iirc

well i mean anyone can switch majors at any time, it just depends what classes you need to take to do so.

[hermes]

i want bitch that's a hufflepuff in the streets but a slytherin between the sheets

"You might belong in Hufflepuff,
Where they are just and loyal,
Those patient Hufflepuffs are true,
And unafraid of toil"

"Or perhaps in Slytherin,
You'll make your real friends,
Those cunning folk use any means,
To achieve their ends."

hmmm, might not be bad the other way around either

[EArl]

You can go into Law school with any degree.
Prety much the same for med school. (You still have to take prereqs)

[hermes]

One thing I think we all can agree on is... do and follow what makes you happy.

#yolo

switch to buddhism, you'll be reincarnated!