2013 Ask Jeff Risdon a Question

[Icness]

Basically every draftnik on ESPN and NFL network seems to think Fisher is a better prospect than Joeckel but that Joeckel should go #1 because he's a "safer pick." I'm confused. Can you explain their logic to me?

Fisher is a better athlete with a higher ceiling. Joeckel is NFL-ready right now to be an above-average left tackle for a decade or more. He'll make a handful of Pro Bowls and rank in the top 10 just about every year in LT evaluation metrics. Fisher might not be that good right away but he has the potential to be Joe Thomas 2.0 in a couple of years. Joeckel is darn near perfect technically, Fisher has some rough edges (arches his back on bull rushes, gets too high when engaging at second level, can be slow with his hands in tight quarters).

Hope that helps.

[GS Warriors 1]

A LOT of buzz on Fisher to KC right now. If that happens, does Jacksonville take Joeckel or do they prefer to trade out?

[gswhoops]

Basically every draftnik on ESPN and NFL network seems to think Fisher is a better prospect than Joeckel but that Joeckel should go #1 because he's a "safer pick." I'm confused. Can you explain their logic to me?

Fisher is a better athlete with a higher ceiling. Joeckel is NFL-ready right now to be an above-average left tackle for a decade or more. He'll make a handful of Pro Bowls and rank in the top 10 just about every year in LT evaluation metrics. Fisher might not be that good right away but he has the potential to be Joe Thomas 2.0 in a couple of years. Joeckel is darn near perfect technically, Fisher has some rough edges (arches his back on bull rushes, gets too high when engaging at second level, can be slow with his hands in tight quarters).

Hope that helps.

So, would it be fair to say that Joeckel projects to be (perhaps not in style but in ranking) a Brandon Albert level LT

[Susan]

Lots of T'eo to the Bears talk coming from ESPN. What are the odds of this just being a smokescreen in order to get Minny to jump up ahead of us?

[Icness]

Lots of T'eo to the Bears talk coming from ESPN. What are the odds of this just being a smokescreen in order to get Minny to jump up ahead of us?

Honestly, both have credibility. I know the Bears legitimately like Te'o, but I also know Phil Emery is not above that sort of chicanery, esp. with a division rival.

[Icness]

gswhoops--Joeckel is better than Albert, def. a better run blocker in the open and w/ Charles that's important.

but they're taking Eric Fisher.

[vincecarter4pres]

Ic!

What are you hearing on the Eagles?

[Pharmcat]

need explanation of that bears pick

i dont get it

[SpeedyG]

Damn, do the Jags take Geno Smith here? Or does he continue to slide?

[PurpleJesus]

Okay Jeff, I loved the Vikings getting Floyd at 23, but is there a reason we fans should be concerned he fell that far to begin with? I think Rhodes was a great pick for us as well and I was ecstatic at how the draft went until we go and trade our 2nd, 3rd, and first 4th to New England for Patterson. We all know this draft is deep. Ogleetree, Teo, Minter, and Brown were all still available, why not wait and see if one falls to you? Why not wait and see how the 2nd round goes and see if Keenan Allen or Woods falls and you only have to trade up a few slots instead of 20+ costing an arm and a leg. Our option to get a solid guard or safety in the 3rd is gone. Tell me something about Patterson that will make me less upset about this.

[aggo]

Jeff, there is no way that the Cowboys got proper compensation for dropping 10 spots there right?

[penquin11]

Okay Jeff, I loved the Vikings getting Floyd at 23, but is there a reason we fans should be concerned he fell that far to begin with? I think Rhodes was a great pick for us as well and I was ecstatic at how the draft went until we go and trade our 2nd, 3rd, and first 4th to New England for Patterson. We all know this draft is deep. Ogleetree, Teo, Minter, and Brown were all still available, why not wait and see if one falls to you? Why not wait and see how the 2nd round goes and see if Keenan Allen or Woods falls and you only have to trade up a few slots instead of 20+ costing an arm and a leg. Our option to get a solid guard or safety in the 3rd is gone. Tell me something about Patterson that will make me less upset about this.

Im not Ice or anything, but I will say that Peterson could easily become a taller, better, version of Percy Harvin.

Anyways my Question:

If Ryan Mallet were in this draft where would he have been drafted? How do you think Manuel will do next year? Which first round pick did you like the most?

[catalyst]

Jeff, there is no way that the Cowboys got proper compensation for dropping 10 spots there right?

Or took the right player at 31. Such disappointment in what may be Jerry's most critical draft. Woke up house with the UGH bellowed from the den close to 11PM central last night

[Icness]

need explanation of that bears pick

i dont get it

Halas Hall has a lot of explaining to do. Arguably the biggest reach in NFL Draft history. Having said that, he wasn't likely to be there for their 2nd round pick. Completely asinine pick given their defense.

[Icness]

Okay Jeff, I loved the Vikings getting Floyd at 23, but is there a reason we fans should be concerned he fell that far to begin with? I think Rhodes was a great pick for us as well and I was ecstatic at how the draft went until we go and trade our 2nd, 3rd, and first 4th to New England for Patterson. We all know this draft is deep. Ogleetree, Teo, Minter, and Brown were all still available, why not wait and see if one falls to you? Why not wait and see how the 2nd round goes and see if Keenan Allen or Woods falls and you only have to trade up a few slots instead of 20+ costing an arm and a leg. Our option to get a solid guard or safety in the 3rd is gone. Tell me something about Patterson that will make me less upset about this.

Check the "thumbs twiddling" section from the rules of thumb piece.
http://football.realgm.com/src_article/ ... d_edition/

[Icness]

Okay Jeff, I loved the Vikings getting Floyd at 23, but is there a reason we fans should be concerned he fell that far to begin with? I think Rhodes was a great pick for us as well and I was ecstatic at how the draft went until we go and trade our 2nd, 3rd, and first 4th to New England for Patterson. We all know this draft is deep. Ogleetree, Teo, Minter, and Brown were all still available, why not wait and see if one falls to you? Why not wait and see how the 2nd round goes and see if Keenan Allen or Woods falls and you only have to trade up a few slots instead of 20+ costing an arm and a leg. Our option to get a solid guard or safety in the 3rd is gone. Tell me something about Patterson that will make me less upset about this.

Im not Ice or anything, but I will say that Peterson could easily become a taller, better, version of Percy Harvin.

Anyways my Question:

If Ryan Mallet were in this draft where would he have been drafted? How do you think Manuel will do next year? Which first round pick did you like the most?

I like Patterson but very high risk/reward.
Mallett would get slotted in the Glennon/Dysert/Landry Jones realm. It still amazes me that people find him relevant. If literally any team but the Patriots took him nobody would even consider trading a 7th for him. He's a drug-addicted, lazy oop-de-doop with a messiah complex and the mobility of Drew Bledsoe under the influence of sleeping pills.

[Dalbi]

Icness,

As a 49ers fan, I realize it is going to be a challenge to cover Percy Harvin and Tavon Austin four times a year. What cornerbacks are still available that could cover the small quick receivers? Any quality slot guys that could contribute immediately?

[kdawg32086]

need explanation of that bears pick

i dont get it

Halas Hall has a lot of explaining to do. Arguably the biggest reach in NFL Draft history. Having said that, he wasn't likely to be there for their 2nd round pick. Completely asinine pick given their defense.

Not to mention, Kyle Long would've been a backup for Oregon, if not for an early season-ending injury that forced them to completely reshuffle the line.

[Dr Positivity]

Bills got 3 guys with off field/character red flags (Alonso, Duke Williams and Da'Rick), any inside scoop on how concerned to be about their issues?

[Da Schwab]

Mallett would get slotted in the Glennon/Dysert/Landry Jones realm. It still amazes me that people find him relevant. If literally any team but the Patriots took him nobody would even consider trading a 7th for him. He's a drug-addicted, lazy oop-de-doop with a messiah complex and the mobility of Drew Bledsoe under the influence of sleeping pills.

Please be my Mr. Miyagi.