OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

[BigSlam]

A straight swap of both players would help both teams balance wise IMO.

Kemba - Thompson - MKG - Biz - Noel

Curry - Hendo - Barnes - Lee - Bogut

I love your optimism Slam but that's never going to happen. They weren't willing to move Klay for James Harden. They're definitely not going to do it for Gerald Henderson.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2 ... -to-trade/

[James Gatz]

A straight swap of both players would help both teams balance wise IMO.

Kemba - Thompson - MKG - Biz - Noel

Curry - Hendo - Barnes - Lee - Bogut

I love your optimism Slam but that's never going to happen. They weren't willing to move Klay for James Harden. They're definitely not going to do it for Gerald Henderson.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2 ... -to-trade/

Good article. Either way Klay is way more valuable of an asset and on a rookie contract compared to Hendo who would probably be at least making 6 mil a year.

[thruthefire]

Three things:

1). He doesn't score well inside the arc;
2). He doesn't get to the free-throw line; and
3). He had a higher TOV% than AST%.

For a guy that shoots so well from three, he is practically useless in every other facet of the game. It's also worth mentioning that he's only played 1400 or so fewer minutes in his career than Hendo, despite being much younger. I'd rather keep Hendo and draft McLemore or go after someone like Wayne Ellington, if you're looking for floor spacing. Golden State might be looking to give away Brandon Rush this summer.

[BigSlam]

Three things:

1). He doesn't score well inside the arc;
2). He doesn't get to the free-throw line; and
3). He had a higher TOV% than AST%.

For a guy that shoots so well from three, he is practically useless in every other facet of the game. It's also worth mentioning that he's only played 1400 or so fewer minutes in his career than Hendo, despite being much younger. I'd rather keep Hendo and draft McLemore or go after someone like Wayne Ellington, if you're looking for floor spacing. Golden State might be looking to give away Brandon Rush this summer.

1). Kemba and MKG do though - that is the point?
2). Kemba and MKG do though - that is the point?
3). Don't care.

Useless? He averages pretty much the same amount of assists, rebounds and steals as Hendo does.

I have no idea how many career mins he has played Vs Hendo has to do with anything?

As for McLemore - the point of this would be drafting Noel and adding a guy like Thompson instead of McLemore to round out and balance our roster.

[vorbis]

slam would you give up somebody like taylor in the henderson/thompson trade to make it happen? what about biyombo? the portland or detroit pick? i don't see any motivation for golden state to move thompson for henderson without some other asset coming their way.

[BigSlam]

slam would you give up somebody like taylor in the henderson/thompson trade to make it happen? what about biyombo? the portland or detroit pick? i don't see any motivation for golden state to move thompson for henderson without some other asset coming their way.

I'd give up JT - not Biz or either of the picks though.

I did propose adding Sessions and Bendris to the deal as motivation for the Warriors if needed.

[thruthefire]

Three things:

1). He doesn't score well inside the arc;
2). He doesn't get to the free-throw line; and
3). He had a higher TOV% than AST%.

For a guy that shoots so well from three, he is practically useless in every other facet of the game. It's also worth mentioning that he's only played 1400 or so fewer minutes in his career than Hendo, despite being much younger. I'd rather keep Hendo and draft McLemore or go after someone like Wayne Ellington, if you're looking for floor spacing. Golden State might be looking to give away Brandon Rush this summer.

1). Kemba and MKG do though - that is the point?
2). Kemba and MKG do though - that is the point?
3). Don't care.

Useless? He averages pretty much the same amount of assists, rebounds and steals as Hendo does.

I have no idea how many career mins he has played Vs Hendo has to do with anything?

As for McLemore - the point of this would be drafting Noel and adding a guy like Thompson instead of McLemore to round out and balance our roster.

A bad team needs to be looking for more complete players, not a one-trick pony to balance out having a historically bad-shooting wing and a very volatile point guard. There are other options out there -- like the ones I mentioned in Ellington and Rush -- that wouldn't involve us trading away assets like Sessions or Hendo or taking back a bad contract.

A guard with a higher turnover percentage than an assist percentage should concern you. It's very rare and very bad.

[Snidely FC]

As a rookie, Jimmy Butler looked like he would struggle to stick in the league. Now, everybody loves Jimmy Buckets. I'm looking for a Butleresque leap between years 1 and 2 for MKG.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-trian ... mmy-butler

[misterglover]

I know im a few days late for the conversation on Klay Thompson, but I had that idea a looong time ago except in my scenario I would keep Hendo and trade MKG for Thompson. Think he and Hendo could play on the wings together and we still get the better player in the deal. Dont think GS would that that deal either though

[HornetJail]

There is zero chance GS is trading either member of their backcourt, but I'd trade our pick this year for Klay pretty easily. Not MKG though.

[misterglover]

Yeah dont think GS would either, just a pipe...You wouldnt trade MKG for Thompson?? WOW, ok....may I ask why you feel that way

[KembaWalker]

trading this years pick OR MKG for Klay Thompson would be crazy imo. I don't see how McLemore doesn't end up way better than Thompson. Same catch and shoot abilities, more dynamic with his transition play and alleyoop ability give him a floor thats as good as Thompson imo. Neither is a good defender but Klay is poor because of lateral quickness which he cannot fix, McLemore is simply inexperienced.

Stephen is ridiculously good..Klay is just decent. Big playoff games are nice but thats not the guy you're getting every night and you can't let it blind you.

[misterglover]

Lord Im praying we dont draft McClemore...if we do, I love my hometown but I think that would be the last straw for me and I would be done as a Bobcats fan. I dont see how McClemore is gonna be better that Hendo now, just a diff't skill set....use the draft to address a diff't need and we have plenty. Rather keep Hendo and sign a sharp shooter like Anthony Morrow, Gary Neal or some vet like that thats gonna be looking for a cheap contract to stay in the league than waste another top 5 pick on a guy thats not a franchise player. We are the only franchise that went thru a complete rebuild and outta all the top 10 picks we have not even 1 is close to being a franchise or elite player.

[KembaWalker]

Lord Im praying we dont draft McClemore...if we do, I love my hometown but I think that would be the last straw for me and I would be done as a Bobcats fan. I dont see how McClemore is gonna be better that Hendo now, just a diff't skill set....use the draft to address a diff't need and we have plenty. Rather keep Hendo and sign a sharp shooter like Anthony Morrow, Gary Neal or some vet like that thats gonna be looking for a cheap contract to stay in the league than waste another top 5 pick on a guy thats not a franchise player. We are the only franchise that went thru a complete rebuild and outta all the top 10 picks we have not even 1 is close to being a franchise or elite player.

I'm not saying he's the right pick I'm saying he will most likely be better than Klay Thompson. Henderson is also better than Klay Thompson. Klay is a shooter that gives you very little else.

[Liver_Pooty]

There is zero chance GS is trading either member of their backcourt, but I'd trade our pick this year for Klay pretty easily. Not MKG though.

I said this exact same thing a couple months ago and got laughed at pretty handedly.

[Liver_Pooty]

Lord Im praying we dont draft McClemore...if we do, I love my hometown but I think that would be the last straw for me and I would be done as a Bobcats fan. I dont see how McClemore is gonna be better that Hendo now, just a diff't skill set....use the draft to address a diff't need and we have plenty. Rather keep Hendo and sign a sharp shooter like Anthony Morrow, Gary Neal or some vet like that thats gonna be looking for a cheap contract to stay in the league than waste another top 5 pick on a guy thats not a franchise player. We are the only franchise that went thru a complete rebuild and outta all the top 10 picks we have not even 1 is close to being a franchise or elite player.

I'm not saying he's the right pick I'm saying he will most likely be better than Klay Thompson. Henderson is also better than Klay Thompson.

I have to disagree with you on Henderson being better than Thompson.

[misterglover]

Me too on the Hendo/Thompson thing....think Thompson is the better player, or will be. But I wanted us to draft Thompson that year anyway...came into every thread and kept screaming Thompson. Sometimes I wish they'd just let us vote on the draft pick instead of the ones they make.

[KembaWalker]

Lord Im praying we dont draft McClemore...if we do, I love my hometown but I think that would be the last straw for me and I would be done as a Bobcats fan. I dont see how McClemore is gonna be better that Hendo now, just a diff't skill set....use the draft to address a diff't need and we have plenty. Rather keep Hendo and sign a sharp shooter like Anthony Morrow, Gary Neal or some vet like that thats gonna be looking for a cheap contract to stay in the league than waste another top 5 pick on a guy thats not a franchise player. We are the only franchise that went thru a complete rebuild and outta all the top 10 picks we have not even 1 is close to being a franchise or elite player.

I'm not saying he's the right pick I'm saying he will most likely be better than Klay Thompson. Henderson is also better than Klay Thompson.

I have to disagree with you on Henderson being better than Thompson.

Henderson per 36: 17.8/4.2/3 53.1%TS 16.4 PER

Thompson per 36: 16.7/3.8/2.2 53.3%TS 12.7 PER

Neither is particularly impressive defensively or intangible wise so not sure how that could sway the argument. Klay's 3pt shooting is more preferable to Hendo's mid range game as far as stretching the floor and all but thats about it. He doesn't actually score more efficiently or anything.

[Eoghan]

There is zero chance GS is trading either member of their backcourt, but I'd trade our pick this year for Klay pretty easily. Not MKG though.

I said this exact same thing a couple months ago and got laughed at pretty handedly.

Still laughing. I wouldn't trade a top 2-3 pick for Klay, not even in this weak draft but if we were 4-5, sure. Klay is a great shooter surrounded by other great shooters so he gets lots of good looks. But he'd been struggling before last night's game so let's not get carried away with his greatness.

[Liver_Pooty]

There is zero chance GS is trading either member of their backcourt, but I'd trade our pick this year for Klay pretty easily. Not MKG though.

I said this exact same thing a couple months ago and got laughed at pretty handedly.

Still laughing. I wouldn't trade a top 2-3 pick for Klay, not even in this weak draft but if we were 4-5, sure. Klay is a great shooter surrounded by other great shooters so he gets lots of good looks. But he'd been struggling before last night's game so let's not get carried away with his greatness.

So essentially you wouldn't trade the 3rd pick, but you would trade the 4th pick which is what we might eventually get. So you may even be agreeing with me without even directly saying so