Bargnani?

[Pharmcat]

Wouldn't mind some of this at all, but no Amare (can't believe I just said that)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjI2ivSn4jM[/youtube]

LOL at thinking steve novak could do that stuff

[Pharmcat]

but the point is that we have no flexibility and our only assets are cambys expiring deal and this 24th pick.
Our biggest need is a stretch 4.
i think you can work with bargs i really do.
obviously you dont like him, but there is definitely a serious case to be made for why the knicks should go after him

I'd betcha you could could get him for free after he is amnestied, there is a reason why he's being shopped before july 1.

He's not a good player which is why I dont want him.

amare was offered last summer to teams, no 1 bothered either to try to trade for him either

[Rasho Brezec]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

[BowlRips]

but the point is that we have no flexibility and our only assets are cambys expiring deal and this 24th pick.
Our biggest need is a stretch 4.
i think you can work with bargs i really do.
obviously you dont like him, but there is definitely a serious case to be made for why the knicks should go after him

I'd betcha you could could get him for free after he is amnestied, there is a reason why he's being shopped before july 1.

He's not a good player which is why I dont want him.

impossible.
a team under the cap will give him atleast 3 mil a year
he would be going to waivers
your basically getting him for free by trading him for novak and camby but okay

[StephNYKurry]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

7 foot 2's aren't valuable?

Have you been watching Chris Bosh against the Pacers?

[Thugger HBC]

Ujiri: Bargnani is available to anyone who will deal for him.

All 29 other GM's: **** please, we'll wait til you amnesty that bum.

[BowlRips]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so tell me how the knicks should look to improve the team and what players are available for them to improve it with?
what is our biggest need? imo its stretch 4

[Rasho Brezec]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

7 foot 2's aren't valuable?

Have you been watching Chris Bosh against the Pacers?

Bosh can do more than one thing.

[Rasho Brezec]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so tell me how the knicks should look to improve the team and what players are available for them to improve it with?
what is our biggest need? imo its stretch 4

I'll take any Bargnani deal that involves Amare and Novak and nothing else from our side.

[Thugger HBC]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so tell me how the knicks should look to improve the team and what players are available for them to improve it with?
what is our biggest need? imo its stretch 4

We didn't get knocked out against indy because of lacking a stretch 4.

Unless you think bargnani is gonna be our starting center Hibbert is not gonna be his matchup.

[BowlRips]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so would you rather a 7ft player to space the floor or a 6'2 player to space the floor putting our players in mismatches on defense

[StephNYKurry]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

7 foot 2's aren't valuable?

Have you been watching Chris Bosh against the Pacers?

Bosh can do more than one thing.

Not in this series he hasn't.

He's tall and can really shoot.

Not a particularly solid defender, but just the fact that he's big and somewhat gives guys pause around the rim.

If he can be had for nothing, I don't see why we don't do the deal that Rips proposed. His expiring could still be used next season just like Amare's.

You can get a really nice piece for 14-15 with those two contracts.

[BowlRips]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so tell me how the knicks should look to improve the team and what players are available for them to improve it with?
what is our biggest need? imo its stretch 4

I'll take any Bargnani deal that involves Amare and Novak and nothing else from our side.

they are not gonna take amares contract they are rebuilding
you wouldnt give up marcus cambyy?

[CKamm1]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so would you rather a 7ft player to space the floor or a 6'2 player to space the floor putting our players in mismatches on defense

Your argument for Bargnani involves defense?

[StephNYKurry]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so would you rather a 7ft player to space the floor or a 6'2 player to space the floor putting our players in mismatches on defense

Your argument for Bargnani involves defense?

He's large. That's valuable on defense. Even if you're a stiff and Woody should be able to get at least a little out of him on the defensive end.

Dirk is garbage on D but he's still 7 feet tall.

[CKamm1]

Not in this series he hasn't.

He's tall and can really shoot.

Not a particularly solid defender, but just the fact that he's big and somewhat gives guys pause around the rim.

If he can be had for nothing, I don't see why we don't do the deal that Rips proposed. His expiring could still be used next season just like Amare's.

You can get a really nice piece for 14-15 with those two contracts.

"Not particularly solid". He may very well be the worst defender in the league, no matter how tall he is he isn't giving anyone pause around the rim.

Also, the last 3 years he's shot 31, 30, and 34 percent from 3.

[Rasho Brezec]

so tell me how the knicks should look to improve the team and what players are available for them to improve it with?
what is our biggest need? imo its stretch 4

I'll take any Bargnani deal that involves Amare and Novak and nothing else from our side.

they are not gonna take amares contract they are rebuilding
you wouldnt give up marcus cambyy?

No, Camby defends and rebounds.

[BowlRips]

Lol, at least 10 players picked after #24 will have a better career than Bargnani. 7ft SG's who can't do anything else but take a lot of shots are not a valuable commodity.

so would you rather a 7ft player to space the floor or a 6'2 player to space the floor putting our players in mismatches on defense

Your argument for Bargnani involves defense?

well if the knicks are gonna match the pacers up like this

Hibbert - Chandler
West - Melo
George - Shump
Stephenson - Felton
Hill - Prigioni

rather than this

Hibbert - Chandler
West - Bargnani
George - Shump
Stephenson - Melo
Hill - Felton

then yes

[Thugger HBC]

Good lord, we're comparing a guy shopoting 50% from the field at center who can hit a jumper with the best of them to a scrub?

Bosh is a threat thats why Hibbert goes out thereand he plays the 5.

bargnani will not even be Hibberts assignment.

[BowlRips]

I'll take any Bargnani deal that involves Amare and Novak and nothing else from our side.

they are not gonna take amares contract they are rebuilding
you wouldnt give up marcus cambyy?

No, Camby defends and rebounds.

if your relying on camby next year to defend and rebound you might as well try to get kevin willis out of retirement. camby was non-existent last season and was a terrible terrible signing and waste of assets by grunwald. we couldve gotten a much better $4 million player then him