Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

Trader_Joe
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 29,176
And1: 3,953
Joined: Jan 19, 2009
 

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#121 » by Trader_Joe » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:21 am

Dark Faze wrote:Easily the most ridiculous and flat out insulting hire I've seen in professional sports.

A team that underachieved to levels that are simply embarrassing is a team that needs a hardass, proven coach to grind them into work.

Bringing in what is basically a play ers coach to be with a bunch of underachievers is a complete disaster waiting to happen and an insult to fans. Does the owner think in his wildest dreams that Andray Blatche could give two ***** what Jason Kidd thinks?

These guys don't need a pal or a friend. Jason Kidds knowledge of basketball is great and all, but this is professional sports, in a league where coaching is becoming so important in regards to a teams development. I'm not even a Nets fan but I'm kind of disgusted. Makes the league seem like a joke.

Most experts and people on here said they were a mid 40's win team and 1st round exit.
They won 49 and lost in the 1st round.

Don't see how that is underachieving.

Yes, the lost to the Bulls but:
-They came back from down 1-3
-Bulls have the best coach in the East
-Bulls have one of the best defenses in the league
-Bulls have one of the best centers in the league
-Bulls were 9-3 vs. Miami, NY and BK this season
-Bulls won game 1 in Miami and ran out of gas, but could have one a couple more vs. Miami
-Thibs said Noah was feeling better than he had in a while and he never showed any signs on injury
-Bulls had chemistry, heart and experience from many years together, Nets had none
-Nets had PJC as their coach
-Nets would have won in 6 if CJ could dunk
-Nets had Evans as their starting PF (Boozer owned him all season), which I pray is not the case next season

Either way they've hard asses.... Avery and PJC both had hard ass reputations.. it didn't work. Now they are going with a potentially player friendly coach in Kidd (Shaw seems to be one too).

And who exactly who have been better?

Karl, who can't win in the playoffs and plays at a fast pace?
Scott, who has done little since NJ?
Hollins, who is a control freak and not getting much interest?
Larry Brown who is 71 and quit on a couple past jobs?
Phil, they tried for and he simply said no.

You also have to ask who else wanted this job.
Mike Dunleavy lobbied for it. Should we have hired him?

Meanwhile his staff will be key.

Frank
Messina
Gentry

Some names floated around.
This will be a team effort from the sidelines with the intent to build a long standing relationship.

It's also a risk they needed to take.
This team isn't going to get better the way other teams can because of their cap situation. They need to take chances.. like this one.
Mikhail Prokhorov wrote:My posse usually needs another vacation after a vacation with me.
HelloBrooklyn
Rookie
Posts: 1,071
And1: 68
Joined: Jul 09, 2012
 

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#122 » by HelloBrooklyn » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 am

Birth of the Cool wrote:
What does RJ leaving after Kidd got traded have to do with anything? You were arguing Kidd was a good leader for the Nets - I argued his last year while RJ was on the team RJ was the defacto voice of the Nets as Kidd & Vince were NOT LEADERS that year. Anyone following the team that year knows this. Ugh.

Again, you make arguments that no one is even raising lol. I never said that Nets team wasn't flawed. It had a great core of Kidd/VC/RJ but had a very poor frontcourt that caused it's demise. I watched every minute of every game so duuuuh. That doesn't mean Kidd wasn't selfish that year. Your arguments are off tangent and weird.

Obvious Kidd hater? You a teenager. Hater? Any criticism is hater, any praise - homer. Weak. VC is my favourite player and Kidd/VC made an amazing backcourt duo to watch - very entertaining. I even watched Kidd since his NCAA days (LJ's UNLV teams, Fab 5 and then Kidd were the guys I really followed during their NCAA days). I already stated Kidd is an all time great PG and I admire his all-around bball/PG skills so that makes me a hater when I have doubts/criticism about him...ok. Kids these days.

Anyways on a side note to more sane conversations going on in this thread...interesting that some people are saying that Nets are not contenders and that Kidd will be good for youth development. None of us have any indication as to Kidd's philosophy - he could be a youth development/mentor type coach or he could just as easily be a guy who wants to win now so there should be no presumption about his goals yet with the Nets team.

Also, if Nets aren't in win now mode then someone needs to tell that to the organization that has JJ, Deron, Crash on the hook for 2015/2016 (2 of which are in their 30's). I thought they are win "now" with Deron, and if not then rebuild with Brook Lopez and youth movement. I think the "leaders" of this team are probably thinking win now but I haven't been following the Nets as closely as the Nets fans here so I concede I could be wrong with the Organizations outlook here.

It'll definitely be more of a circus with Kidd as Nets Coach (return of the King in many ways) then Jackson going to the Warriors. Like some have said it will definitely be interesting one way or another.


Ok, so if you want to go in that direction then. What does RJ leading the Nets (in your perception) have to do with anything. How does that support your main arguement on how Kidd going to be a bad coach from your speculation? How the **** does that have to do with anything?

The fact of the matter is that Kidd proved that he is already a great leader and able to improve his teammates throughout his career. Yet your main argument is because, "half of the season that him not wanting to be a Net shows he isn't a good Leader?" Please tell me if i'm wrong or not?

Yet you think in your argument, you feel that everyone is raising?? is it because of the many posters replying to your idiotic opinion about this topic?

Again please tell me how Kidd was selfish?? When he average 11/10/8 You are constantly dodging my questions trying to show that your some kind of intellect with the basis of very lopsided opinion with nothing backing up your statement except for his DUI and half a season on being with the Nets. Which has nothing to do with coaching whatsoever.

I'm sorry that I was using my cell phone to reply to your unworthy to read comments. But I guess your presumption is correct that I am teenager. Since me no speak english correctly. Maybe next time i'll speak with more diction. But hey you are definitely the mature one arguing with a teenager :lol:. This guy is obviously a real winner and only outlet to society is this forum. :wink:

Anyway, there is really no reason to reply to your comments. I shouldn't have in the first place since its obvious baiting and really nothing to talk about.
Image
Paradise
Nets Forum: Asst. To The RM
Posts: 39,031
And1: 11,974
Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Location: NYC
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#123 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:33 am

What's more hilarious is the pure shock of people around here. Mark Jackson, Bob Cousy all come to mind as coaches that made the jump without a lick of assistant coaching experience and half of the assistant coaches in the league that were promoted to coaching SUCKED.

I love Shaw and I think he's a better candidate, however, he has the same experience coaching than Kidd at the end of the day.

Kidd will rub off better with this group because at the end of the day, talent wasn't the issue. It was getting them motivated when other teams with the same capable talent competed against them or played harder.

I'm pretty sure we all know this team will be nothing more than the Utah Jazz East, which is a team that will win 50 wins, possibly win a few division titles, get HCA and probably lose in the 2nd round or ECF.

So, people can relax with confusing our logic with the others across the bridge.
WaffleRecord
Starter
Posts: 2,155
And1: 729
Joined: Aug 08, 2011
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#124 » by WaffleRecord » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:48 am

It was pretty official before, but now its officially official =P

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS 22m
The Nets have chosen Jason Kidd as their next head coach, league source confirms.


Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 18m
News conference to introduce Jason Kidd as the Brooklyn coach will be held on Thursday, source tells Y! Sports.
Paradise
Nets Forum: Asst. To The RM
Posts: 39,031
And1: 11,974
Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Location: NYC
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#125 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:54 am

Image


Image


Talk about a player/coach relationship. This will be interesting.
User avatar
Prestige
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,044
And1: 4,669
Joined: Jan 17, 2011
Location: The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is everything.
 

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#126 » by Prestige » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 am

I'm beginning to think Brian Shaw won't ever coach an NBA team.
jym85
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,685
And1: 649
Joined: Jan 26, 2010

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#127 » by jym85 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 am

This makes about as much sense as trading for Joe Johnson's corpse who will make 25 mil in several years
User avatar
Ive
Junior
Posts: 476
And1: 90
Joined: Jan 10, 2013

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#128 » by Ive » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:04 am

Well, this is bizarre.
[GR] wrote:Celts will win in 7. The Knicks are broken.
User avatar
DRoseCantStop
RealGM
Posts: 13,014
And1: 3,371
Joined: Feb 17, 2013
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#129 » by DRoseCantStop » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:06 am

Good for Kidd. Fans need to stop being so critical, he knows what he's doing..

I still think karma will haunt this Brooklyn team after firing Avery Johnson. Poor man didn't do anything wrong.
User avatar
Rich Rane
Senior Mod - Nets
Senior Mod - Nets
Posts: 36,963
And1: 15,637
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
       

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#130 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:07 am

DRoseCantStop wrote:I still think karma will haunt this Brooklyn team after firing Avery Johnson. Poor man didn't do anything wrong.


Someone didn't watch any Nets games.
User avatar
DRoseCantStop
RealGM
Posts: 13,014
And1: 3,371
Joined: Feb 17, 2013
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#131 » by DRoseCantStop » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:11 am

Rich Rane wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:I still think karma will haunt this Brooklyn team after firing Avery Johnson. Poor man didn't do anything wrong.


Someone didn't watch any Nets games.

I had to for the playoffs. They faced my Bulls.

But hey, before that, I'm guilty lol.
jym85
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,685
And1: 649
Joined: Jan 26, 2010

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#132 » by jym85 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:12 am

Rich Rane wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:I still think karma will haunt this Brooklyn team after firing Avery Johnson. Poor man didn't do anything wrong.


Someone didn't watch any Nets games.


Or his in-game adjustments with the Mavs

Continue to double Shaq in the Finals even though you played Duncan one-on-one?
Bench both centers, move Dirk to center, and play Devean George major minutes in game one versus GS?

plenty of others that had me scratching my head
Paradise
Nets Forum: Asst. To The RM
Posts: 39,031
And1: 11,974
Joined: Aug 16, 2012
Location: NYC
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#133 » by Paradise » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:13 am

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 21m
Shaw: “GUYS, can you please listen? I’m giving a presentation.” Nets: “Shh, we’re watching Kidd highlights and planning a press conference.


:lol:

I feel bad for Shaw. He keeps getting rejected after interviews.
User avatar
Rich Rane
Senior Mod - Nets
Senior Mod - Nets
Posts: 36,963
And1: 15,637
Joined: Jun 29, 2005
       

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#134 » by Rich Rane » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:13 am

DRoseCantStop wrote:I had to for the playoffs. They faced my Bulls.

But hey, before that, I'm guilty lol.


Avery wasn't the coach in the playoffs. It was P.J. Carlesimo. Sitting an All-Star for an entire 4th quarter for no reason should be an automatic firing, but they waited until the season was over.
FinnTheHuman
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,552
And1: 3,719
Joined: Nov 22, 2012
   

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#135 » by FinnTheHuman » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:14 am

Kid probably thought about a coaching job for a long time. He was probably carefully and actively observing, learning, studying etc how to coach for at least the last couple of years, so I think he's ready. He probably has some great ideas.
User avatar
DRoseCantStop
RealGM
Posts: 13,014
And1: 3,371
Joined: Feb 17, 2013
     

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#136 » by DRoseCantStop » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:17 am

Rich Rane wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:I had to for the playoffs. They faced my Bulls.

But hey, before that, I'm guilty lol.


Avery wasn't the coach in the playoffs. It was P.J. Carlesimo. Sitting an All-Star for an entire 4th quarter for no reason should be an automatic firing, but they waited until the season was over.

Yes, I know that, but it irritates me how this team can't appreciate the presence of a good coach. Yet, they keep getting let off the hook each time.
User avatar
DusterBuster
RealGM
Posts: 36,476
And1: 22,169
Joined: Jan 31, 2010
   

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#137 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:19 am

Ive wrote:Well, this is bizarre.


It'll certainly be interesting to watch, that's for sure.
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy... #YangBang
DarkXaero
RealGM
Posts: 14,225
And1: 5,767
Joined: Mar 25, 2011
   

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#138 » by DarkXaero » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:23 am

DRoseCantStop wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:I had to for the playoffs. They faced my Bulls.

But hey, before that, I'm guilty lol.


Avery wasn't the coach in the playoffs. It was P.J. Carlesimo. Sitting an All-Star for an entire 4th quarter for no reason should be an automatic firing, but they waited until the season was over.

Yes, I know that, but it irritates me how this team can't appreciate the presence of a good coach. Yet, they keep getting let off the hook each time.
Avery and PJC are terrible coaches.
User avatar
Hello Brooklyn
RealGM
Posts: 17,547
And1: 13,324
Joined: Dec 24, 2012
   

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#139 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:23 am

Poor Shaw went from being able to pick between 4 jobs, to possibly getting none of them.

I'll accept this hire for the Nets. If Kidd can get Deron Williams to play well again, I will be elated. Thats clearly the motivation here.

We need Deron to play like a super star. Better than hes ever played before.
User avatar
rj2496
Starter
Posts: 2,042
And1: 111
Joined: Dec 06, 2010
Location: New Jersey
       

Re: Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets 

Post#140 » by rj2496 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:24 am

DRoseCantStop wrote:
Rich Rane wrote:
DRoseCantStop wrote:I had to for the playoffs. They faced my Bulls.

But hey, before that, I'm guilty lol.


Avery wasn't the coach in the playoffs. It was P.J. Carlesimo. Sitting an All-Star for an entire 4th quarter for no reason should be an automatic firing, but they waited until the season was over.

Yes, I know that, but it irritates me how this team can't appreciate the presence of a good coach. Yet, they keep getting let off the hook each time.



Are you calling Avery Johnson and PJ Carlesimo good coaches? If you've watched every Nets game like us Nets fans, you would understand.

Return to The General Board