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Trade Ideas - Part 2

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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#641 » by SaiCLE » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:25 am

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Jukeness wrote:I believe that Derrick Williams has more promise than Thompson coming into this year. I think he has more ability to work with than Thompson.



Well at least youre not trying to pass your opinion for fact. Glad to see you have that going for you, even if the content I definitely dont agree with.

Yes, I really dislike when people voice what they say as fact. No it is your opinion. I always say that.

Anyway, I think if one of these players would become a good player in the NBA it would be Williams, and I think Williams will keep improving this year. Williams does have the potential to become a dynamic offensive player, whether that will happen is unknown to me. I wont discuss defense, because Thompson has him there.

No disrespect, I completely disagree with you. I know Williams was the number 2 pick, but you are seriously underrating Thompson. Defense & Rebounding Isn't the only thing he's good at.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#642 » by Jukeness » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:08 pm

SaiCLE wrote:
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Well at least youre not trying to pass your opinion for fact. Glad to see you have that going for you, even if the content I definitely dont agree with.

Yes, I really dislike when people voice what they say as fact. No it is your opinion. I always say that.

Anyway, I think if one of these players would become a good player in the NBA it would be Williams, and I think Williams will keep improving this year. Williams does have the potential to become a dynamic offensive player, whether that will happen is unknown to me. I wont discuss defense, because Thompson has him there.

No disrespect, I completely disagree with you. I know Williams was the number 2 pick, but you are seriously underrating Thompson. Defense & Rebounding Isn't the only thing he's good at.

Being the #2 pick isn't why I'm saying all this. I'm not saying anything about Thompson's offense either, but what I am saying is that Williams has the potential to be a good to very good offensive player. He has the natural abilities, he just needs to work on them, like outside shooting and driving in. He can definately do those things, just not consistently.

Would you not take Williams offensive potential over Thompson's?
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#643 » by tidho » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:45 pm

Jukeness wrote:Would you not take Williams offensive potential over Thompson's?

Completely negating that Thompson is likely already a better rebounder and defender?, lol. If you look at offense I'm really not sure what skills Williams can supposedly develop that Thompson wouldn't also be able to develop. They're not the same kind of player and Williams will likely develop a perimiter game with Thompson developing inside, but I don't see any reason to believe Williams will simply develop more overall.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#644 » by Jukeness » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:42 pm

Like I already said, I'm not discussing defense because obviously Thompson has him there. Rebounding, Thompson is better, BUT Williams is a capable rebounder. Why would I even discuss those?

Why wouldn't Williams develop more overall? He's more dimensional than Tristan who isn't much of a threat outside of the paint. Wiliams has the ability to make outside shots, mid range shots and drive. So why would I not believe that he will be a better and more complete offensive player? I really dont think that you can argue that.

Unless Thompson can hit shots out of the paint, he's not going to be a good offensive player. Unless you're a big bruising center, you can't have a good offensive game by living inside.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#645 » by B Mac » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:26 pm

Dupp wrote:^^ Maybe im out of the loop but whats happened with Livingston?



He's a free agent and is looking for a bigger deal than what the Cavs are looking to offer. He was more of a BScott guy anyway. Im guessing we kick the tires and maybe there's a chance he's back, but both sides will probably have to budge quite a bit.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#646 » by Dupp » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:39 pm

So if dwight goes to houston ( hope he does) reckon we could make a play at asik? Or Gortat since phoenix drafted Len.... Id love either of those two guys
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#647 » by SaiCLE » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:02 pm

Jukeness wrote:Like I already said, I'm not discussing defense because obviously Thompson has him there. Rebounding, Thompson is better, BUT Williams is a capable rebounder. Why would I even discuss those?

Why wouldn't Williams develop more overall? He's more dimensional than Tristan who isn't much of a threat outside of the paint. Wiliams has the ability to make outside shots, mid range shots and drive. So why would I not believe that he will be a better and more complete offensive player? I really dont think that you can argue that.

Unless Thompson can hit shots out of the paint, he's not going to be a good offensive player. Unless you're a big bruising center, you can't have a good offensive game by living inside.

I'm not even sure Williams will develop, only because he has to play behind a all star power forward.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#648 » by Niko23 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:41 pm

Cavs send TT/AV/2014 1st to Boston
Boston sends Rondo to Team x
Cavs receive y

Solve for x and y
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Raptors fan here! 

Post#649 » by stanley14 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:35 pm

I heard that Tristan Thompson or Anthony Bennett could be on the market, what would you guys want to send 1 to Toronto?
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Re: Raptors fan here! 

Post#650 » by Niko23 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:12 pm

Really not much on the Toronto roster I would take
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Re: Raptors fan here! 

Post#651 » by SaiCLE » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:33 pm

Same, unless you could maybe find a third team?
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Re: Raptors fan here! 

Post#652 » by nyrangers08 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:57 pm

Well obviously it would be a deal centred around Valanciunas. But I don't see how that helps the Raptors much.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#653 » by fart » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:04 pm

Rockets sign Dwight then cavs trade TT for Asik.


Irving
Waiters
Sergey
Bennet
Asik

Lin
Harden
Parsons
TT
Dwight

I like both those starting lineups.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#654 » by Niko23 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:10 pm

If they throw in Thomas Robinson - I think that is really good deal
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#655 » by Dupp » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:53 pm

As much as I'd hate to see Thompson go ( he's my favourite player) something like that would be a good deals or us.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#656 » by tidho » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:15 pm

Niko23 wrote:Cavs send TT/AV/2014 1st to Boston
Boston sends Rondo to Team x
Cavs receive y

Solve for x and y

Milwaukee and Larry Sanders + filler would be nice.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#657 » by SaiCLE » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:28 pm

fart wrote:Rockets sign Dwight then cavs trade TT for Asik.


Irving
Waiters
Sergey
Bennet
Asik

Lin
Harden
Parsons
TT
Dwight

I like both those starting lineups.

I like this a lot.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#658 » by FNQ » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:11 pm

GSW in: Dwight Howard
GSW out: Andrew Bogut, Brandon Rush, Klay Thompson or Harrison Barnes, 2014 + 2016 1st

LAL in: 14M TPE, Brandon Rush, Klay Thompson or Harrison Barnes, 2014 + 2016 1sts GSW, 2016 2nd (ATL or CLE)
LAL out: Dwight Howard

ATL or CLE in: Andrew Bogut
ATL or CLE out: 2016 2nd pick

What do you guys think?
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#659 » by Dupp » Mon Jul 1, 2013 6:17 am

I really like bogut so id be pretty happy to do that. Hes an expiring so it doesnt hurt too much. If injuries continue to be a concern then dont resign him or sign him for cheap.
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Re: Trade Ideas - Part 2 

Post#660 » by Harper4Ferry? » Mon Jul 1, 2013 6:43 am

you're not going to get Bogut for a #2 pick.

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