Woj: Pierce and Garnett to Brooklyn?!?

[dynamic duo]

KG and Pierce alone took Knicks to 6 games, going to be interesting watching Kidd work with them.

false, only someone who didn't watch the series would make a foolish comment like that.

Jeff Green was the best player in that series by far. Offensively and Defensively.

Who exactly defends Melo in the nets starting lineup?

My bad, did watch the games and he was a beast.

Melo will get his but Nets offense could be dangerous imo.

[Mr_Perfect]

lol. Who is going to defend Melo on the Nets? The reason Melo struggled against the Celtics is because of Green and Bass. Pierce is gonna defend him? KG? Johnson?

You realize it's easy to defend a team that plays isolation and has one scoring option, right?

So easy that it was because of our defense that lost us the series, not really our offense.

Against Indiana? Yeah, that's not true at all.

Our offense was pretty terrible in the playoffs. Only averaged 88 ppg. That's what happens when you're one-dimensional and depend on 3-point shooting and isolation to win in the playoffs.

[mpharris36]

KG and Pierce alone took Knicks to 6 games, going to be interesting watching Kidd work with them.

false, only someone who didn't watch the series would make a foolish comment like that.

Jeff Green was the best player in that series by far. Offensively and Defensively.

Who exactly defends Melo in the nets starting lineup?

My bad, did watch the games and he was a beast.

Melo will get his but Nets offense could be dangerous imo.

offensively the nets will be dangerous for sure. will not argue with you there.

But they are slow and old and that doesn't translate to good defense. Can they sustain that level of offensive offency with playing lousy defense?

[Fury]

You realize it's easy to defend a team that plays isolation and has one scoring option, right?

So easy that it was because of our defense that lost us the series, not really our offense.

Against Indiana? Yeah, that's not true at all.

Our offense was pretty terrible in the playoffs. Only averaged 88 ppg. That's what happens when you're one-dimensional and depend on 3-point shooting and isolation to win in the playoffs.

We lost Game 6 because we couldn't stop them. When we came back, they just scored at will.

[mpharris36]

Nets roster is more talented than the Knicks. Remains to be seen if they can play together. Say Smith comes back:

Williams >> Felton
Johnson > Smith
Pierce > Shumpert
Garnett << Anthony
Lopez > Chandler

are you compaing defense along with those rankings.

JR is a much better defender then Johnson and had a better year
Shumpert locked down Pierce in the playoffs and another year will improve shumpert and decrease Pierce
Lopez better offensivly but Tyson even though he struggled is a much better defensive player.

The nets have an extremely talented offense (still don't see how 5 guys who are rythm players (maybe garnett isn't that much) but 5 guys who are used to getting a majority of the shots will not go game with less then 10 shots a game.

It's different not being in the flow and then expected to just capitalize on your opportunities.

Role players have always done that so its easier to adjust. Pierce and Joe Johnson have never been #3/#4 options in there careers...could back fire.

Plus they both suck defensively.

[SonOfMars]

The "greater than" or "less than" defense is the most ridiculous thing i've seen on this site

Is that what determines what team is better nowadays?

[god shammgod]

this will be fun all summer

[Falstaffxx]

Nets roster is more talented than the Knicks. Remains to be seen if they can play together. Say Smith comes back:

Williams >> Felton
Johnson > Smith
Pierce > Shumpert
Garnett << Anthony
Lopez > Chandler

are you compaing defense along with those rankings.

JR is a much better defender then Johnson and had a better year
Shumpert locked down Pierce in the playoffs and another year will improve shumpert and decrease Pierce
Lopez better offensivly but Tyson even though he struggled is a much better defensive player.

The nets have an extremely talented offense (still don't see how 5 guys who are rythm players (maybe garnett isn't that much) but 5 guys who are used to getting a majority of the shots will not go game with less then 10 shots a game.

It's different not being in the flow and then expected to just capitalize on your opportunities.

Role players have always done that so its easier to adjust. Pierce and Joe Johnson have never been #3/#4 options in there careers...could back fire.

Plus they both suck defensively.

Garnett is a better defender than Chandler though. Paul Pierce average 19/5/5 in the playoffs so idk about him getting shut down. Also don't know about Smith being a "much better defender" than Johnson or having a better year, although he did have that stretch toward the end of the year when he was excellent. I would still much rather have Johnson than Smith.

I agree and said before that it remains to be seen whether the Nets can play together.

[Falstaffxx]

The "greater than" or "less than" defense is the most ridiculous thing i've seen on this site

Is that what determines what team is better nowadays?

I agree that it's not very useful, but my post wasn't intended to show which team was better, just which team has more talent.

[mpharris36]

Garnett is a better defender than Chandler though. Paul Pierce average 19/5/5 in the playoffs so idk about him getting shut down. Also don't know about Smith being a "much better defender" than Johnson or having a better year, although he did have that stretch toward the end of the year when he was excellent. I would still much rather have Johnson than Smith.

I agree and said before that it remains to be seen whether the Nets can play together.

garnett is now a 4 and not a 5...so he could get away with no quickness at the 5 but not at the 4.

ALso Pierce shot 36 % from the field in that series. Shumpert shut him down. If you take enough attemps you will score but he was not effecient. THat is the sign off good defense.

Alo JR avg 18-3-5 with about a steal and a half per game

JJ average 16-3-3 with the same shooting % and he is not a good defender.

Also JR is 27 and usually pretty injury free

JJ was injured a lot last year and declining.

If you can reign JR in he is a better all around player than JJ and he proved it last year.

[TrueWarrior]

Guys we got CJ Leslie Im not worried.

[Falstaffxx]

Garnett is a better defender than Chandler though. Paul Pierce average 19/5/5 in the playoffs so idk about him getting shut down. Also don't know about Smith being a "much better defender" than Johnson or having a better year, although he did have that stretch toward the end of the year when he was excellent. I would still much rather have Johnson than Smith.

I agree and said before that it remains to be seen whether the Nets can play together.

garnett is now a 4 and not a 5...so he could get away with no quickness at the 5 but not at the 4.

ALso Pierce shot 36 % from the field in that series. Shumpert shut him down. If you take enough attemps you will score but he was not effecient. THat is the sign off good defense.

Alo JR avg 18-3-5 with about a steal and a half per game

JJ average 16-3-3 with the same shooting % and he is not a good defender.

Also JR is 27 and usually pretty injury free

JJ was injured a lot last year and declining.

If you can reign JR in he is a better all around player than JJ and he proved it last year.

The position Garnett plays is not the point. He's a better defender than any front-court player the Knicks have.

The fact that Pierce shot 37% in the series is not equivalent to being "shut down." And the Nets will not be requiring him to do as much.

Comparing Smith and Johnson as players...Smith may have been marginally better as a scorer last season, although it was close, but Johnson is a better passer and a smarter player. I do not think Smith is a better all-around player...I don't think it's even close, really.

I will say, I'm not confident that the Nets roster will work well together. Individually they do have more talent though.

[TheGarden]

Anyone scared of the Nets after this move is a straight pussy

The Knicks are still better at the end of the day

Garnett and Pierce I honestly don't think will be there mentally

Pierce especially since he had no say in the move

Carmelo has more talent than their starting 5 combined

Tyson can't play any worse, JR the enigma he is better than Pierce and JJ

You can't just throw names out there and expect results

[Falstaffxx]

Anyone scared of the Nets after this move is a straight pussy

The Knicks are still better at the end of the day

Garnett and Pierce I honestly don't think will be there mentally

Pierce especially since he had no say in the move

Carmelo has more talent than their starting 5 combined

Tyson can't play any worse, JR the enigma he is better than Pierce and JJ

You can't just throw names out there and expect results

Because the Knicks are a marvel of strategic team-building.

[mpharris36]

Anyone scared of the Nets after this move is a straight pussy

The Knicks are still better at the end of the day

Garnett and Pierce I honestly don't think will be there mentally

Pierce especially since he had no say in the move

Carmelo has more talent than their starting 5 combined

Tyson can't play any worse, JR the enigma he is better than Pierce and JJ

You can't just throw names out there and expect results

[vallen]

Guys we got CJ Leslie Im not worried.

but ya, Nets lookin like the turtle thats going to win the race.

[Falstaffxx]

By the way, for my attitude to make me a "pussy," I'd have to have some obligation or be honor-bound in some way to make a case for the Knicks' superiority.

[Pharmcat]

grunwald needs to make a counter move to keep up with IND CHI and BKN improving

he failed carter in TOR, he cant do the same to melo, as melo has a PO coming up he can use to get out of here

[vallen]

Anyone scared of the Nets after this move is a straight pussy

The Knicks are still better at the end of the day

Garnett and Pierce I honestly don't think will be there mentally

Pierce especially since he had no say in the move

Carmelo has more talent than their starting 5 combined

Tyson can't play any worse, JR the enigma he is better than Pierce and JJ

You can't just throw names out there and expect results

You add 1 of those Nets or Rondo for that matter to BOS this past Playoff series and we would have lost. PP and Garnett as 3 and 4th option. gtfo. they are going to be strong and probably win the division.

[makeitstop]

Fun facts:

Brooklyn's payroll will be about $100 million, with 82 million going to their starting five.

They'll will be paying about $80 million in lux tax because of this deal.

And KG's salary for 2014-15 will be fully guaranteed.

Must be nice to have a billionaire who don't give a f*ck for an owner.