LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

[Magilla_Gorilla]

They arnt alike at all

You're right, that Boozer scored more, at a higher efficiency, while rebounding better.

First off, you're still ignoring that 'how they score' part, how Boozer needs to be fed and Aldridge can create for himself.

Second off, only one of those three things is still true. Boozer scored more on higher efficiency the year before he signed here than LMA did this past season, but he scored less on lower efficiency this past season. Shouldn't we worry more about Boozer's production now and what it's likely to be in the future vs that of Aldridge rather than what Boozer's production was three years ago?

I'm very specifically talking about the season before we signed Boozer (whose signing is generally seen as a failure by many on this board) and Aldridge last season.

Do I think Aldridge is a better player then Boozer was then? Absolutely, but I do not believe he is a transcendent talent or 'special' or worth selling the farm to obtain.

I don't think the difference between the two Is so vast that we should open up the coffers for a players whose best offense comes from the least efficient shot in basketball.

[RoseIs1]

What are we supposed to give up for LA?

If our team is:

Rose
Butler
Deng
LA
Noah

Then we would finally have enough to beat the Heat.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

You're right, that Boozer scored more, at a higher efficiency, while rebounding better.

First off, you're still ignoring that 'how they score' part, how Boozer needs to be fed and Aldridge can create for himself.

Second off, only one of those three things is still true. Boozer scored more on higher efficiency the year before he signed here than LMA did this past season, but he scored less on lower efficiency this past season. Shouldn't we worry more about Boozer's production now and what it's likely to be in the future vs that of Aldridge rather than what Boozer's production was three years ago?

I'm very specifically talking about the season before we signed Boozer (whose signing is generally seen as a failure by many on this board) and Aldridge last season.

Do I think Aldridge is a better player then Boozer was then? Absolutely, but I do not believe he is a transcendent talent or 'special' or worth selling the farm to obtain.

I don't think the difference between the two Is so vast that we should open up the coffers for a players whose best offense comes from the least efficient shot in basketball.

So, let me ask you this; do you think Aldridge is so stuck in his ways that if Thibs and the rest of the coaching staff said 'look, we need you play closer to the basket, post-up more, etc, that's what's going to be best for the team and how we can get the most out of you', he would ignore it or not try to do what they want him to do?

[Magilla_Gorilla]

First off, you're still ignoring that 'how they score' part, how Boozer needs to be fed and Aldridge can create for himself.

Second off, only one of those three things is still true. Boozer scored more on higher efficiency the year before he signed here than LMA did this past season, but he scored less on lower efficiency this past season. Shouldn't we worry more about Boozer's production now and what it's likely to be in the future vs that of Aldridge rather than what Boozer's production was three years ago?

I'm very specifically talking about the season before we signed Boozer (whose signing is generally seen as a failure by many on this board) and Aldridge last season.

Do I think Aldridge is a better player then Boozer was then? Absolutely, but I do not believe he is a transcendent talent or 'special' or worth selling the farm to obtain.

I don't think the difference between the two Is so vast that we should open up the coffers for a players whose best offense comes from the least efficient shot in basketball.

So, let me ask you this; do you think Aldridge is so stuck in his ways that if Thibs and the rest of the coaching staff said 'look, we need you play closer to the basket, post-up more, etc, that's what's going to be best for the team and how we can get the most out of you', he would ignore it or try to do what they want him to do?

I think Aldridge has shown, over the last seven seasons, that he has no interest in mixing it up inside. I don't think any coach is going to change that.

[BullsFTW]

What are we supposed to give up for LA?

If our team is:

Rose
Butler
Deng
LA
Noah

Then we would finally have enough to beat the Heat.

Deng will most likely be part of any trade that would send LMA to Chicago. Boozer will be amnestied or traded, and the Bulls will sign a SF in FA, and I'd like D. Wright in that situation.

F Wright/Snell
F Aldridge/Gibson/Murphy
C Noah/Mohammed
G Butler/Hinrich
G Rose/Teague

[ryan44]

First off, you're still ignoring that 'how they score' part, how Boozer needs to be fed and Aldridge can create for himself.

Second off, only one of those three things is still true. Boozer scored more on higher efficiency the year before he signed here than LMA did this past season, but he scored less on lower efficiency this past season. Shouldn't we worry more about Boozer's production now and what it's likely to be in the future vs that of Aldridge rather than what Boozer's production was three years ago?

I'm very specifically talking about the season before we signed Boozer (whose signing is generally seen as a failure by many on this board) and Aldridge last season.

Do I think Aldridge is a better player then Boozer was then? Absolutely, but I do not believe he is a transcendent talent or 'special' or worth selling the farm to obtain.

I don't think the difference between the two Is so vast that we should open up the coffers for a players whose best offense comes from the least efficient shot in basketball.

So, let me ask you this; do you think Aldridge is so stuck in his ways that if Thibs and the rest of the coaching staff said 'look, we need you play closer to the basket, post-up more, etc, that's what's going to be best for the team and how we can get the most out of you', he would ignore it or not try to do what they want him to do?

I think Thibs could get him to at times play more of a post-game, but not enough to alter his upside to the point where it was worth giving up Noah and other assets for him.

[LoveOurTeam]

I’m in the camp that doesn’t think there’s any comparison between Boozer and Aldridge in terms of our championship caliber team. There was a time when he may have been able to put us over the hump. I never believed in it, but even if it were possible at the time, his time has now passed. He really lives in his own little world. We’ve been stuck with him as a high salary starter, even though he doesn’t really fit in well with our team. Aldridge is a conventional player, who fits our team, plays fourth quarters and shows up for big games.

[ryan44]

What are we supposed to give up for LA?

If our team is:

Rose
Butler
Deng
LA
Noah

Then we would finally have enough to beat the Heat.

Deng will most likely be part of any trade that would send LMA to Chicago. Boozer will be amnestied or traded, and the Bulls will sign a SF in FA, and I'd like D. Wright in that situation.

F Wright/Snell
F Aldridge/Gibson/Murphy
C Noah/Mohammed
G Butler/Hinrich
G Rose/Teague

I don't see a realistic scenario where Chicago keeps Noah, Gibson, and Butler while acquiring LMA.

[weneeda2guard]

there is only 1 thing i care about in the boozer vs aldridge debate

who better helps us get past miami

all those other numbers are useless. for the record though, there is not a gm on the planet, not in china, argentina nowhere, that will attempt to explain how boozer is better than aldridge. that will only happen here in bulls fans land


its simple for me. heat single covered boozer and he disappears.

if miami single covers aldridge, flat out torture down low. he will eat bosh, birdman and whoever else down there food.

dont get it twisted, i understand that if boozer wanted to it can be the same for him. problem is half the time he does not want to. for whatever reason.

[TheSuzerain]

Yeah, Aldridge can't be guarded by Shane Battier.

Boozer...

[weneeda2guard]

its also extremely hilarious to me that we rave and got so much anticipation for miritoc who is a stretch 4 but in the next breath criticize aldridge for playing .........like a stretch 4 lol

[Magilla_Gorilla]

its also extremely hilarious to me that we rave and got so much anticipation for miritoc who is a stretch 4 but in the next breath criticize aldridge for playing .........like a stretch 4 lol

We're not talking about trading Noah and draft picks for Mirotic.

And Aldridge isn't a stretch 4, he just likes to shoot 18 foot jumpshots. Mirotic can step outside the three point line.

[ryan44]

its also extremely hilarious to me that we rave and got so much anticipation for miritoc who is a stretch 4 but in the next breath criticize aldridge for playing .........like a stretch 4 lol

Might have something to do with giving up Noah and picks whereas Miritoc would cost...nothing in terms of assets.

[BullsFTW]

What are we supposed to give up for LA?

If our team is:

Rose
Butler
Deng
LA
Noah

Then we would finally have enough to beat the Heat.

Deng will most likely be part of any trade that would send LMA to Chicago. Boozer will be amnestied or traded, and the Bulls will sign a SF in FA, and I'd like D. Wright in that situation.

F Wright/Snell
F Aldridge/Gibson/Murphy
C Noah/Mohammed
G Butler/Hinrich
G Rose/Teague

I don't see a realistic scenario where Chicago keeps Noah, Gibson, and Butler while acquiring LMA.

CHA Pick, Mirotic, Deng (Flipped for a player), and maybe another future first

[tre11408]

its also extremely hilarious to me that we rave and got so much anticipation for miritoc who is a stretch 4 but in the next breath criticize aldridge for playing .........like a stretch 4 lol

We're not talking about trading Noah and draft picks for Mirotic.

And Aldridge isn't a stretch 4, he just likes to shoot 18 foot jumpshots. Mirotic can step outside the three point line.

Exactly.

A stretch 4 shoots from outside the 3-point line. Rasheed Wallace, Kukoc, Love, those are stretch 4's.

A PF who doesn't shoot 3's is... just a PF. Each and every PF in the league can shoot 18-20 footers- some better than others, obviously, but Aldridge shoots a lot of 2-point jumpers and, IIRC, hits them at almost the same rate as Boozer over the last 2 seasons.

[jc23]

If Lu is an important part in any potential trade something has to be done pre deadline. Otherwise next summer Boozer and Taj will be the only contracts that come close to matching. Assuming Noah is still off the table.

Then again, if Charlotte doesnt get a top 3 pick next draft the 2016 pick is a year closer and looking that much more enticing. And then you got Mirotic who is also now an real option to bring over to your team.

[Leto]

Aldridge is marginally better than Boozer and a little younger. His contributions on the court are similar. He is a better, but not by much. As such his value to the Bulls would be Boozer +. Giving up Deng, Butler, Noah etc is a non-starter. Not going to happen.

[OldSchoolNoBull]

Aldridge is marginally better than Boozer and a little younger. His contributions on the court are similar. He is a better, but not by much. As such his value to the Bulls would be Boozer +. Giving up Deng, Butler, Noah etc is a non-starter. Not going to happen.

It's clear they don't want to give up Noah and they probably don't want to give up Jimmy, but I believe Deng is absolutely on the table - that if Portland wanted him, we'd include him. And Boozer going to Portland is a non-starter for Portland.

[MrFortune3]

its also extremely hilarious to me that we rave and got so much anticipation for miritoc who is a stretch 4 but in the next breath criticize aldridge for playing .........like a stretch 4 lol

Nikola won't costs multiple assets, we can have him and those assets whereas Aldridge costs us all of those assets + Nikola.
big, big, big difference.

[Red Larrivee]

Aldridge is marginally better than Boozer and a little younger.

Come on yall.