Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

[Rafael122]

I don't get why Utah is helping teams like Golden State clear salary. Golden State just cleared $20 million off the books, even though they added Iggy to a $12 million per year deal. They still saved about $8 million. It's a trade you'd make in NBA 2K13, not in real life.

I think they needed to get to the cap floor and this help them do that this year they're at $28M right now. They also get a back-up Center for a year before Gobert comes over...a little overloaded at SF although they could by out Jefferson I suppose. The interesting part is that when Utah are ready to compete in a couple years, GS will still be a good/great team if this helps get them Howard. Dunno if that's what you implied.

Utah have a s*** ton of cap space next year even after resigning Favors and Hayward. Wow

Yeah but no one is going to Utah.

[mhd]

I don't get why Utah is helping teams like Golden State clear salary. Golden State just cleared $20 million off the books, even though they added Iggy to a $12 million per year deal. They still saved about $8 million. It's a trade you'd make in NBA 2K13, not in real life.

I think they needed to get to the cap floor and this help them do that this year they're at $28M right now. They also get a back-up Center for a year before Gobert comes over...a little overloaded at SF although they could by out Jefferson I suppose. The interesting part is that when Utah are ready to compete in a couple years, GS will still be a good/great team if this helps get them Howard. Dunno if that's what you implied.

Utah have a s*** ton of cap space next year even after resigning Favors and Hayward. Wow

Yeah but no one is going to Utah.

This is actually not a bad move IF they get a boatload of future picks. They can "tank" while getting some vets to fill the bench. I like the Kanter-Favors-Hayward-Burke, core, personally.

[Liverbird]

I don't get why Utah is helping teams like Golden State clear salary. Golden State just cleared $20 million off the books, even though they added Iggy to a $12 million per year deal. They still saved about $8 million. It's a trade you'd make in NBA 2K13, not in real life.

I think they needed to get to the cap floor and this help them do that this year they're at $28M right now. They also get a back-up Center for a year before Gobert comes over...a little overloaded at SF although they could by out Jefferson I suppose. The interesting part is that when Utah are ready to compete in a couple years, GS will still be a good/great team if this helps get them Howard. Dunno if that's what you implied.

Utah have a s*** ton of cap space next year even after resigning Favors and Hayward. Wow

Yeah but no one is going to Utah.

Indeed.

[nate33]

If Utah is taking on garbage players for free, we should have given them Singleton and Vesely.

[Liverbird]

I think they needed to get to the cap floor and this help them do that this year they're at $28M right now. They also get a back-up Center for a year before Gobert comes over...a little overloaded at SF although they could by out Jefferson I suppose. The interesting part is that when Utah are ready to compete in a couple years, GS will still be a good/great team if this helps get them Howard. Dunno if that's what you implied.

Utah have a s*** ton of cap space next year even after resigning Favors and Hayward. Wow

Yeah but no one is going to Utah.

This is actually not a bad move IF they get a boatload of future picks. They can "tank" while getting some vets to fill the bench. I like the Kanter-Favors-Hayward-Burke, core, personally.

Yeah but they don't have a stone cold killer and Burke may or may not be that player. As Raf said - who would sign there? Unless perhaps they use the cap space next year to provide a huge TE to facilitate a trade for such player.

[nuposse04]

If utah got picks, they are one Curry ankle injury away from cashing in...if there are no picks...well this might be one of the dumber trades I've seen (assuming you actually wanted to trade for something worth a damn).

[Dat2U]

I don't get why Utah is helping teams like Golden State clear salary. Golden State just cleared $20 million off the books, even though they added Iggy to a $12 million per year deal. They still saved about $8 million. It's a trade you'd make in NBA 2K13, not in real life.

I think they needed to get to the cap floor and this help them do that this year they're at $28M right now. They also get a back-up Center for a year before Gobert comes over...a little overloaded at SF although they could by out Jefferson I suppose. The interesting part is that when Utah are ready to compete in a couple years, GS will still be a good/great team if this helps get them Howard. Dunno if that's what you implied.

Utah have a s*** ton of cap space next year even after resigning Favors and Hayward. Wow

Not really. The cap floor is what it is no matter who is signed or what additional contracts are added. If Utah decided to sign no one but minimum salaried players and stayed under the "cap floor" then the players remaining would get the difference b/w actual players salaries and the cap floor amount dispersed among themselves.

[LyricalRico]

That may be the rule, but I can't imagine why any team would pay the same amount of money to less players. If they're going to have to pay somebody the money anyway, why not add some extra bodies to fill out the roster and get something of value from GSW in return? Even if it's just 2nd round picks, it's better than nothing (although I'm assuming it will be more than that). Especially if they were going to tank anyway.

[stevemcqueen1]

They could also do Asik to ATL for Josh Smith (S&T) if he and Howard wanted to play together. And ATL would get a young C to move Horford to PF.

I'm assuming HOU wants good players though. Not Josh Freaking Smith.

But they're close buddies...

I think Atlanta is a legit option and makes perfect sense. A little unsure how JSmith and DHoward would actually fit together, especially with Harden. Smith will need to be much more disciplined with his shot.

Houston will be a very good team next year if Howard signs there. Amazing how quickly they were able to rebuild. Says everything about Morey and EG.

Houston had been flailing around in purgatory, trying to build something for the past four or five years. This hasn't been quick for them.

[Rafael122]

Rush, Biedrins, Jefferson and a '14 pick that will be in the high 20s for Utah. It's like a trade you'd make in a video game and the Warriors still have assets to possibly trade Bogut and one of Barnes or Thompson to get Howard.

[stevemcqueen1]

I think Iggy in GS means no Dwight.

My call is that Dwight stays in LA.

Or he's going to force LA to do an S&T with Houston I guess. Dwight is not going to just walk away from that final year. No one ever has.

[stevemcqueen1]

Also, if the Jazz get Wiggins, man that could be a really damn good team.

[Dat2U]

That may be the rule, but I can't imagine why any team would pay the same amount of money to less players. If they're going to have to pay somebody the money anyway, why not add some extra bodies to fill out the roster and get something of value from GSW in return? Even if it's just 2nd round picks, it's better than nothing (although I'm assuming it will be more than that). Especially if they were going to tank anyway.

True. Unless you really want to reward your own guys, there's no reason why a team wouldn't sign a guy or two to a one year deal just to get up to the salary floor.

But this Utah deal looks especially bad. Why would Utah help out Golden State so darn much?

[FAH1223]

@WojYahooNBA

Golden State will send first-round picks in 2014 and 2017 to the Jazz, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[Liverbird]

Houston had been flailing around in purgatory, trying to build something for the past four or five years. This hasn't been quick for them.

They were in the playoffs in 2009 and again this year so that's really only 2, maybe 3 years after they lost both Yao and TMac. That's not bad. The Wizards haven't been since 2008.

Getting Harden was obviously huge for them.

[keynote]

Warriors renounced their rights to Jarrett Jack.

So, would folks have preferred the Wizards to sign Jack for the MLE (or some portion) over Webster?

[Rafael122]

Warriors renounced their rights to Jarret Jack.

So, would folks have preferred the Wizards to sign Jack for the MLE (or some portion) over Webster?

No. He's bounced around prior to that, and exploded on the scene in a contract year. You could arguably say the same about Webster but he's younger and cheaper than Jack. Jack was valuable to the Warriors because Curry will miss his 15-20 games a year, and they really had no decent back up at the 1 or 2, IMO.

BTW, if only Jefferson had waited a day, he wouldn't be in Charlotte.

[FAH1223]

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[pineappleheadindc]

You know how Lebron (rightfully) took criticism for the way he was a drama queen in announcing that he's leave Cleveland.

Well, yeah, Howard doesn't have an ESPN special. But he's done this act twice already.

Bleh on him.

[keynote]

Howard's heading to HOU, acc. to Sam Amick.

That's a pretty good basketball decision, depending on what GSW would've needed t o give up in a S&T.