Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LIX Offseason Edition)

[FFBlitzace]

Blitz, how do you feel about Miley Cyrus and her twerking now-a-days?

Can't say I like her hair, but oh well. Beggars can't be choosers.

Meanwhile, lots of heartbroken young fans in the Youtube comments. Poor things.

[InFlames]

Hawks might be trying to sign Monta Ellis.

[94_MagicFan]

Will there be a game thread or will we discuss here

[rcklsscognition]

I prefer the oladipo=Jordan comparison but I'll wait till he's got one summer league game under his belt before passing final judgement. Lot of pressure on tmrws game, could make or break a career!! lol

[Carlos Arroyo]

i want us tomorrow to be losing by 3 with 2 min left and see oladipo doing this

[magicsanta]

I've been catching up, I'm really astonished by the fornt office bashing, has to be new fans, if you see the Magic's transaction history and then take a look at the last year, that's a heck of a tunaround, it's like a proportion of 9 questionable moves to 1 solid move before, and the opposite after Hennigan's hiring.

[msmoore66]

I've been catching up, I'm really astonished by the fornt office bashing, has to be new fans, if you see the Magic's transaction history and then take a look at the last year, that's a heck of a tunaround, it's like a proportion of 9 questionable moves to 1 solid move before, and the opposite after Hennigan's hiring.

I agree!

Haters gonna Hate, Idiots gonna Idiot.

[RickB-Orlando]

I hope the guy turns out to be a met positive, even of just as a backup 1/2. But for the sale of contrariness:

He hasn't shown much yet, certainly hasn't proven anything toward being a real ballet that has a place on the team for the long term. He certainly didn't show me much as a playmaker last year. Limited time of course, so maybe there's something there, but lets let's dial down the hyperbole be honest.

There's a reason guys like Lamb are selected in the second round, and the chances of them becoming impact players are very slim.

No hyperbole here honestly...

What's the percentage of Magic RealGM who believes in Lamb.....10%...Maybe?

Some of us who actually WATCH the players who are up & coming, gotta let some fans who aren't as invested informed.

Yea there are reasons guys like Lamb get drafted second round....they get OVERLOOKED on a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP team where he was a KEY PIECE & they look at the other young guns.

It's fine though.

No expectations here though....RealGM Magic barely knows who the guy is.

I get it, and it's always cool to talk up a player and wind up being right. But I've watched him, I've got season tix, and he's nothing special in my opinion. Maybe he'll evolve. I hope so.

As for the overlooked comment, well, sure, that's how any second rounder winds up surprising people. I'm just not convinced that's the case with Lamb. I will be happy to be proven wrong.

And wow, some typos in that original post. I'm off and on painkillers at the moment and what a hash job autocorrect did. Sorry, that was borderline unreadable!

[RickB-Orlando]

I prefer the oladipo=Jordan comparison but I'll wait till he's got one summer league game under his belt before passing final judgement. Lot of pressure on tmrws game, could make or break a career!! lol

If he doesn't drop 30 people will be storming Henny's office with torches and pitchforks.

[Furinkazan]

I've been catching up, I'm really astonished by the fornt office bashing, has to be new fans, if you see the Magic's transaction history and then take a look at the last year, that's a heck of a tunaround, it's like a proportion of 9 questionable moves to 1 solid move before, and the opposite after Hennigan's hiring.

I agree!

Haters gonna Hate, Idiots gonna Idiot.

and
Hennys lovers gonna build shrines each thread

[MagicFan32]

i am very much looking forward to seeing what lamb could do, he showed some good things at the end of the season. i'm all for experimenting with him as potentially being the backup PG this year, Why not? if he sucks we'll just be in better position for the 14 draft, if he's good he may marginally improve our win total while potentially becoming a valuable asset at some point

[MagicFan32]

So hold up. What exactly are you saying, We should have taken Iggy? Is this a joke?

YES, You should have taken Iggy. He was an expiring. We could have EASILY traded him to a contender for picks and an expiring at the deadline OR he would have been expired, off the books and playing elsewhere (we may have even been able to sign and trade him if the team he wanted was over cap).

Instead of that, we are all standing here holding our crotch, praying that we can get rid of Afflalo and Harringtons salary that is on the books for three and two more years.


Iggy isn't/wasn't good enough to make us win, he was a much more valuable asset.

how often do contending teams give up anything of value at the deadline? at best you get 1 late first, no different than what we got out of denver, plus having the afflalo asset

[MagicFan32]

Look you guys, nobody is saying Henny sucks so far or has done a bad job, but to act as if there hasn't been a single misstep in his learning is just burying your head in the sand.


Harrington is a partial at 3.5 and 3.8 million, and Afflalo is making 7.75.

$7,750,000 - $7,750,000 - $7,937,500
$3,574,300 - $3,804,900

We took on:
+$11,324,300 '13-'14 offseason (right now)
+$11,554,900 '14-'15 next offseason
+ $7,937,500 '15-'16 offseason

This is cap space we gave away just to have Afflalo and a late 1st rounder. We gave away so potentially HUGE cap space that we should be ready to use in a year or two.

Why do we need the cap space this year? We still have plenty of flexibility with our assets.

We blocked it for MULTIPLE YEARS. You guys are extremely short sighted.

Having 11-12 million dollars of EXTRA cap space could be the difference in us being able to comfortably re-sign our guys like Tobias/Vucevic AND adding a premier FA, Instead of having to let one walk or only be able to re-sign them and then stand pat after that.

Afflalo and a late 1st is not worth all of this in any universe

when do we have to sign them again? please state for the record, then matchup when harringtons deal expires k?

[cedric76]

I think Detroit now have a solid/young/athletic frontcourt

I like when team try to improve and not tank (like 80% of Orlando realgm)




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[MagicStarwipe]

My attitude towards Lamb is wait and see. I watched Henny's press conference after the trade and he said he felt that Lamb had first round talent. I kept that in the back of my head in the early days of him getting into games and looking too scared to do anything on the court. He slowly started to gain more confidence and played better, so we'll see how he goes.

[fendilim]

I think Detroit now have a solid/young/athletic frontcourt

I like when team try to improve and not tank (like 80% of Orlando realgm)




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Not tanking when u dont have the pieces only leads to mediocrity.

[cedric76]

I think Detroit now have a solid/young/athletic frontcourt

I like when team try to improve and not tank (like 80% of Orlando realgm)




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Not tanking when u dont have the pieces only leads to mediocrity.

Tanking is against principal of competition

If it s ur personality to tank, go for it

But losing on purpose is against my principal

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[magicsanta]

Look you guys, nobody is saying Henny sucks so far or has done a bad job, but to act as if there hasn't been a single misstep in his learning is just burying your head in the sand.


Harrington is a partial at 3.5 and 3.8 million, and Afflalo is making 7.75.

$7,750,000 - $7,750,000 - $7,937,500
$3,574,300 - $3,804,900

We took on:
+$11,324,300 '13-'14 offseason (right now)
+$11,554,900 '14-'15 next offseason
+ $7,937,500 '15-'16 offseason

This is cap space we gave away just to have Afflalo and a late 1st rounder. We gave away so potentially HUGE cap space that we should be ready to use in a year or two.

Why do we need the cap space this year? We still have plenty of flexibility with our assets.

We blocked it for MULTIPLE YEARS. You guys are extremely short sighted.

Having 11-12 million dollars of EXTRA cap space could be the difference in us being able to comfortably re-sign our guys like Tobias/Vucevic AND adding a premier FA, Instead of having to let one walk or only be able to re-sign them and then stand pat after that.

Afflalo and a late 1st is not worth all of this in any universe

It's absurd to judge the deal based on its bad side, you have to give up something to get something in return. Justifying it by explaining how it could prevent us from re-singning Vucevic (part of the trade's good side) makes even less sense (we couldn't re-sign him if we hadn't got him in the first place, could we?). Acussing others of being shrotsighted takes a great vision not to make a fool of yourself, doing it while making such a fundamental mistake, makes you look like a jerk.

Any reasonable assessment of the trade should involve the context, the balance of the deal and it's ramifications.

Plus, as they told you, Harrington's contract will be out of the books before we have to re-sing anybody, and afflalo will be in another uniform.

[Blue_and_Whte]

So hold up. What exactly are you saying, We should have taken Iggy? Is this a joke?

YES, You should have taken Iggy. He was an expiring. We could have EASILY traded him to a contender for picks and an expiring at the deadline OR he would have been expired, off the books and playing elsewhere (we may have even been able to sign and trade him if the team he wanted was over cap).

Instead of that, we are all standing here holding our crotch, praying that we can get rid of Afflalo and Harringtons salary that is on the books for three and two more years.


Iggy isn't/wasn't good enough to make us win, he was a much more valuable asset.

how often do contending teams give up anything of value at the deadline? at best you get 1 late first, no different than what we got out of denver, plus having the afflalo asset

Were they offering iggy? You know the other half of that is that the team has to actually offer said player. It's not like going to Walmart with a shopping list where you buy what you want. Likely the nuggets wanted to try and retain iggy thus not wanting to trade him.

[Blue_and_Whte]

YES, You should have taken Iggy. He was an expiring. We could have EASILY traded him to a contender for picks and an expiring at the deadline OR he would have been expired, off the books and playing elsewhere (we may have even been able to sign and trade him if the team he wanted was over cap).

Instead of that, we are all standing here holding our crotch, praying that we can get rid of Afflalo and Harringtons salary that is on the books for three and two more years.


Iggy isn't/wasn't good enough to make us win, he was a much more valuable asset.

how often do contending teams give up anything of value at the deadline? at best you get 1 late first, no different than what we got out of denver, plus having the afflalo asset

Were they offering iggy? You know the other half of that is that the team has to actually offer said player. It's not like going to Walmart with a shopping list where you buy what you want. Likely the nuggets wanted to try and retain iggy thus not wanting to trade him.
where did all these anti Hennigan people come from. This fan base I swear. nothing's ever good enough.