2013 Orlando Summer League (July 7 - July 12)

[MellowRose]

After listening to Dipo's post game interview i'm convinced the Magic have told him they want to move him to the point guard spot full time.

What makes you say that?

[OrlandO]

I get bored listening to Dipo interviews. They are mostly same talking points reiterated repeatedly. He will learn to be better at it.

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To be fair they all ask him the same damn questions.... and they always end asking him to sing.

[Noonskadoodle]

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[Darth Magic]

After listening to Dipo's post game interview i'm convinced the Magic have told him they want to move him to the point guard spot full time.

What makes you say that?

He talks about how much he enjoy's playing the point, plus there are clues here and there that lead me to think he's been told he's playing point. I just listened to the coach just now and got the same vibe. they don't want to say it outright, but he kept bringing up other players who aren't natural point guards but play the position.

[pogiro]

This is why we RealGM...

Oladipo makes a pass -> OMG Dipo has PG skillzzzz!!!!

Oladipo makes a turnover -> I've seen enough. He's never gonnna play PG.

And it wouldn't be a message board without having the guy who criticizes everyone's opinion in one fell swoop as if the message board is of one collected minded person and not dozens of fans with an opinion.

And I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I did say I have seen enough of Dipo at PG. He isn't an NBA PG. Is that so outrageous? PG's who play the position and look phenomenal through their whole high school and college careers don't make it at PG in the NBA. Just because we want to experiment with him at PG and he has moments of PG competence doesn't mean he projects well as a good NBA PG.

[londoncollin]

Orton with a nasty block on Harper

[liquid_softgel]

Orton with a nasty block on Harper

Both guys look like completely different players. Harper had a nice post up fade earlier.

[Skin]

This is why we RealGM...

Oladipo makes a pass -> OMG Dipo has PG skillzzzz!!!!

Oladipo makes a turnover -> I've seen enough. He's never gonnna play PG.

And it wouldn't be a message board without having the guy who criticizes everyone's opinion in one fell swoop as if the message board is of one collected minded person and not dozens of fans with an opinion.

And I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I did say I have seen enough of Dipo at PG. He isn't an NBA PG. Is that so outrageous? PG's who play the position and look phenomenal through their whole high school and college careers don't make it at PG in the NBA. Just because we want to experiment with him at PG and he has moments of PG competence doesn't mean he projects well as a good NBA PG.

I don't know.... I kind of do think it's a little outrageous to say what Oladipo is and isn't at this point.

But let me ask you this... What holds him back? In the beginning there were a ton of people who said he couldn't do it because he doesn't have the handle. Many of those same people said he couldn't shoot. My take was that there was a huge learning curve for him in the mental aspect of the game more than anything else. I think that could come in time. Do I think he will ever be our full time PG? No, but I do think he can play PG. What holds you back?

[magicman112]

Macgruder had 11 points in just 10 minutes.

He jumped out at me of all the guys who I watched youtube videos of...

[ivDT]

Macgruder had 11 points in just 10 minutes.

He jumped out at me of all the guys who I watched youtube videos of...

i thought he had a nice game as well. i'm gonna call him scooter from now on.

[pogiro]

This is why we RealGM...

Oladipo makes a pass -> OMG Dipo has PG skillzzzz!!!!

Oladipo makes a turnover -> I've seen enough. He's never gonnna play PG.

And it wouldn't be a message board without having the guy who criticizes everyone's opinion in one fell swoop as if the message board is of one collected minded person and not dozens of fans with an opinion.

And I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I did say I have seen enough of Dipo at PG. He isn't an NBA PG. Is that so outrageous? PG's who play the position and look phenomenal through their whole high school and college careers don't make it at PG in the NBA. Just because we want to experiment with him at PG and he has moments of PG competence doesn't mean he projects well as a good NBA PG.

I don't know.... I kind of do think it's a little outrageous to say what Oladipo is and isn't at this point.

But let me ask you this... What holds him back? In the beginning there were a ton of people who said he couldn't do it because he doesn't have the handle. Many of those same people said he couldn't shoot. My take was that there was a huge learning curve for him in the mental aspect of the game more than anything else. I think that could come in time. Do I think he will ever be our full time PG? No, but I do think he can play PG. What holds you back?

Wait, so you can say that you don't think he will be our full-time PG, but I can't? Outrageous to say that a rookie who played SG in college, who is projected as an NBA SG is not going to be a NBA PG? Sheesh. I feel ridiculous having to repeat the argument because it's not like I'm going out on a limb here. But some of you guys can't handle any sort of negative comment, no matter how mild or realistic it is.

I said in my post I've seen enough to say he's not our answer at PG. I said he could play backup minutes at PG if we really needed, but he's not our answer at PG. What holds him back? Talent for the position. He showed flashes. And I think those flashes are appropriate for a rookie NBA SG. We need some playmaking ability there too. But PG is another level. He is not striking me as a player that can play the position full-time. Players always are given aspects of their game to work on. And Oladipo acquiring a 3-pt shot with the jump in 3Pt% was impressive, and his shot looked good tonight, his work ethic must be amazing. But having a player improve their shot is a far cry from telling a player, "become a PG", "become good at running an offense".

[magicman112]

Osby is legit. Rob is awesome.

Indeed, 2nd round guys usually are longshots at best you hope can catch on. Looks like for the 2nd year in a row Rob might have found another gem.

[Skin]

And it wouldn't be a message board without having the guy who criticizes everyone's opinion in one fell swoop as if the message board is of one collected minded person and not dozens of fans with an opinion.

And I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I did say I have seen enough of Dipo at PG. He isn't an NBA PG. Is that so outrageous? PG's who play the position and look phenomenal through their whole high school and college careers don't make it at PG in the NBA. Just because we want to experiment with him at PG and he has moments of PG competence doesn't mean he projects well as a good NBA PG.

I don't know.... I kind of do think it's a little outrageous to say what Oladipo is and isn't at this point.

But let me ask you this... What holds him back? In the beginning there were a ton of people who said he couldn't do it because he doesn't have the handle. Many of those same people said he couldn't shoot. My take was that there was a huge learning curve for him in the mental aspect of the game more than anything else. I think that could come in time. Do I think he will ever be our full time PG? No, but I do think he can play PG. What holds you back?

Wait, so you can say that you don't think he will be our full-time PG, but I can't? Outrageous to say that a rookie who played SG in college, who is projected as an NBA SG is not going to be a NBA PG? Sheesh. I feel ridiculous having to repeat the argument because it's not like I'm going out on a limb here. But some of you guys can't handle any sort of negative comment, no matter how mild or realistic it is.

I said in my post I've seen enough to say he's not our answer at PG. I said he could play backup minutes at PG if we really needed, but he's not our answer at PG. What holds him back? Talent for the position. He showed flashes. And I think those flashes are appropriate for a rookie NBA SG. We need some playmaking ability there too. But PG is another level. He is not striking me as a player that can play the position full-time. Players always are given aspects of their game to work on. And Oladipo acquiring a 3-pt shot with the jump in 3Pt% was impressive, and his shot looked good tonight, his work ethic must be amazing. But having a player improve their shot is a far cry from telling a player, "become a PG", "become good at running an offense".

Oh I didn't realize you thought he could play PG when you said you didn't think he could play PG.

[MellowRose]

And it wouldn't be a message board without having the guy who criticizes everyone's opinion in one fell swoop as if the message board is of one collected minded person and not dozens of fans with an opinion.

And I don't know if that was a swipe at me, but I did say I have seen enough of Dipo at PG. He isn't an NBA PG. Is that so outrageous? PG's who play the position and look phenomenal through their whole high school and college careers don't make it at PG in the NBA. Just because we want to experiment with him at PG and he has moments of PG competence doesn't mean he projects well as a good NBA PG.

I don't know.... I kind of do think it's a little outrageous to say what Oladipo is and isn't at this point.

But let me ask you this... What holds him back? In the beginning there were a ton of people who said he couldn't do it because he doesn't have the handle. Many of those same people said he couldn't shoot. My take was that there was a huge learning curve for him in the mental aspect of the game more than anything else. I think that could come in time. Do I think he will ever be our full time PG? No, but I do think he can play PG. What holds you back?

Wait, so you can say that you don't think he will be our full-time PG, but I can't? Outrageous to say that a rookie who played SG in college, who is projected as an NBA SG is not going to be a NBA PG? Sheesh. I feel ridiculous having to repeat the argument because it's not like I'm going out on a limb here. But some of you guys can't handle any sort of negative comment, no matter how mild or realistic it is.

I said in my post I've seen enough to say he's not our answer at PG. I said he could play backup minutes at PG if we really needed, but he's not our answer at PG. What holds him back? Talent for the position. He showed flashes. And I think those flashes are appropriate for a rookie NBA SG. We need some playmaking ability there too. But PG is another level. He is not striking me as a player that can play the position full-time. Players always are given aspects of their game to work on. And Oladipo acquiring a 3-pt shot with the jump in 3Pt% was impressive, and his shot looked good tonight, his work ethic must be amazing. But having a player improve their shot is a far cry from telling a player, "become a PG", "become good at running an offense".

Those are some **** reasons.

[pogiro]

Those are some **** reasons.

Did you even watch the game today?

[MellowRose]

Those are some **** reasons.

Did you even watch the game today?

Yea, I "even"' watched the game today. His ball handling looked fine to me. He did seem to not really know what to do once he passed half-court, but that's probably because there were no set plays to run. In your response to why he can't be a full-fledged PG, you said that he's lost on offense / can't run an offense. I'm pretty sure that's because they haven't been given anything to run.

[eyriq]

I didn't catch the game but looking over the box score it looks like we won the game on the glass and at the line. Offense looks like it played well enough. Victor looks like he deserves Sweater Vest considerations and is the heavy favorite.

[pogiro]

Those are some **** reasons.

Did you even watch the game today?

Yea, I "even"' watched the game today. His ball handling looked fine to me. He did seem to not really know what to do once he passed half-court, but that's probably because there were no set plays to run. In your response to why he can't be a full-fledged PG, you said that he's lost on offense / can't run an offense. I'm pretty sure that's because they haven't been given anything to run.

I mean I just asked because other than one other post where you didn't say much, you calling my reasons **** (whatever that was) was the only thing I've seen you contribute today. So how about you post some opinions rather than calling my opinion ****?

[thelead]

All this talk is way premature. Give it some time, if it works, great. If not, well, at least he worked on his dribble and passing. I don't understand how we're wasting his time when he gets to have the ball in his hands the whole game and gets even more exposure to nba defenses (more so than if he was just coming off of screens as a sg).

From what I see, he looks like he might end up being a pg of the Harden mold (I know he isn't technically a pg, but hell if he doesn't really run the offense anyway).

[Last Guardian]

Why so much arguing? Dipo played a good game for his first time as a member of the Magic. Thats all there is to it.