ImageImageImageImageImage

Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Lakers

Moderators: Kilroy, Danny Darko, TyCobb

b shaw20
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,381
And1: 60
Joined: Apr 29, 2007

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#101 » by b shaw20 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:58 am

Ever since Shaq left, the team became Kobe's and we went all in for him. We've lived and died because of him but under the new CBA and the Celtics and Heat have defined how one can build a super team. The rules of the game have changed. Before as in the shaq-kobe era, it was enough to get 2 super stars and build around them year after year with solid role players. Now it seems to be that you have to have a big 3 with good role players.

And to get 3 super stars, financial sacrifices have to be made by almost everyone (especially the big 3). Its the cost of winning but for kobe, winning is not going to happen unless its "his way". This is not a good look for him or the org to attract other super stars or free agents. He still refuses to take a back seat to anyone and its just selfish. He commands too much control of the offense. Whether its fga or having the offense be run through him. It can't continue to happen, especially after the injury and age.

I get that he works hard, plays through pain, etc but at some point you have to let others help you win. Why he has not learned after so many years to play smarter is beyond me.

Anyways,...his position on salary is dissapointing to hear and until HE is willing to sacrifice for the betterment of the TEAM, we are not going to be a serious contender.
User avatar
kblo247
RealGM
Posts: 13,834
And1: 2,131
Joined: Apr 16, 2011

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#102 » by kblo247 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:13 am

B Shaw you got to admit minimum is crazy?
Image
Mr MoJo Risin
Banned User
Posts: 1,942
And1: 474
Joined: Jul 01, 2013

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#103 » by Mr MoJo Risin » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:18 am

I heard on the radio, if Kobe said he was willing to take a pay cut, the NBA Player union would be all over him if he said this publicly. I think it's best for Kobe to say no comment when asked about next season.
b shaw20
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,381
And1: 60
Joined: Apr 29, 2007

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#104 » by b shaw20 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:33 am

kblo247 wrote:B Shaw you got to admit minimum is crazy?


No doubt, I am not suggesting a vet min by any means but a significant cut for sure. Whatever it takes to get another 2 superstars. But other 2 should also take less than a max deal (like Miami did).

Ultimately, how much is a another ring worth to Kobe? I say the more he is willing to give up, the higher the chances of winning.

I put myself in kobe's shoes and having made more money than I could ever piss away and wanting to secure my legacy by at least tying MJ in titles plus making it much more difficult for Bron to match, I would without hesitation sacrifice $20m to give me a 50/50 chance at another chip.

Its not about my salary at this point. Legacy, period.
tviper
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,809
And1: 260
Joined: Nov 25, 2005

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#105 » by tviper » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:43 am

b shaw20 wrote:
kblo247 wrote:B Shaw you got to admit minimum is crazy?


No doubt, I am not suggesting a vet min by any means but a significant cut for sure. Whatever it takes to get another 2 superstars. But other 2 should also take less than a max deal (like Miami did).

Ultimately, how much is a another ring worth to Kobe? I say the more he is willing to give up, the higher the chances of winning.

I put myself in kobe's shoes and having made more money than I could ever piss away and wanting to secure my legacy by at least tying MJ in titles plus making it much more difficult for Bron to match, I would without hesitation sacrifice $20m to give me a 50/50 chance at another chip.

Its not about my salary at this point. Legacy, period.


The minimum salary is a strategic move to get max players. Saying minimum for KB24 is crazy seems to be ignoring the purpose. The idea is that he takes the minimum so that LAL can add TWO max players in 2014 (e.g., Melo and Lebron), and then another in 2015 because his cap hold will be so low. LAL will still have Bird rights, so they can then sign KB24 for 20M in 2015 after signing the third max FA (e.g., Love). Brilliant strategy, but problem is that he published it so now probably can't implement because might get nixed by league office.
User avatar
kblo247
RealGM
Posts: 13,834
And1: 2,131
Joined: Apr 16, 2011

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#106 » by kblo247 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:48 am

"Earlier Wednesday, Bryant was quoted by Lakers Nation, a fan website, that he wouldn't be willing to take a pay cut to stay with the Lakers. Bryant later told ESPN that he was speaking in jest."
Image
User avatar
dockingsched
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 56,660
And1: 23,966
Joined: Aug 02, 2005
     

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#107 » by dockingsched » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:22 am

Mr MoJo Risin wrote:I heard on the radio, if Kobe said he was willing to take a pay cut, the NBA Player union would be all over him if he said this publicly. I think it's best for Kobe to say no comment when asked about next season.


that doesn't really sound accurate. players say they will take a pay cut or say they took a pay cut all the time.
"We must try not to sink beneath our anguish, Harry, but battle on." - Dumbledore
User avatar
Doormatt
RealGM
Posts: 17,438
And1: 2,013
Joined: Mar 07, 2011
   

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#108 » by Doormatt » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:58 am

Tylerfisher51 wrote:
hermes wrote:like the vet's min? how much is that?

that would be an insanely large paycut, one i don't really seen happening
i don't see it happening either but what I meant was it would be smart if he wants that 6th ring


its never smart for anyone in any career to take the minimum amount of money they can make. thats just **** stupid.
#doorgek
Tylerfisher51
Sophomore
Posts: 109
And1: 5
Joined: Jul 10, 2013

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#109 » by Tylerfisher51 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:02 am

Doormatt wrote:
Tylerfisher51 wrote:
hermes wrote:like the vet's min? how much is that?

that would be an insanely large paycut, one i don't really seen happening
i don't see it happening either but what I meant was it would be smart if he wants that 6th ring


its never smart for anyone in any career to take the minimum amount of money they can make. thats just **** stupid.
alright I guess,but if he doesn't,then that will affect the cap,so if he takes 10-15 mil who could we sign?im not saying its smartest financially for him because it isn't.im saying if he wants that 6th or 7th ring then he should do that so Mitch can sign two stars than just one
ROballer
General Manager
Posts: 9,703
And1: 2,964
Joined: Sep 06, 2009
Location: Romania
   

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#110 » by ROballer » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:02 am

Doormatt wrote:
Tylerfisher51 wrote:
hermes wrote:like the vet's min? how much is that?

that would be an insanely large paycut, one i don't really seen happening
i don't see it happening either but what I meant was it would be smart if he wants that 6th ring


its never smart for anyone in any career to take the minimum amount of money they can make. thats just **** stupid.


Imagine Kobe playing for the minimum while Nash gets over 9 mil at age 41 :lol:
Steve Nash injures his back while carrying bags

Slava wrote:I pulled a hammy while fapping. I won't make fun of Nash.
User avatar
Doormatt
RealGM
Posts: 17,438
And1: 2,013
Joined: Mar 07, 2011
   

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#111 » by Doormatt » Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:10 am

Tylerfisher51 wrote:
Doormatt wrote:
Tylerfisher51 wrote:i don't see it happening either but what I meant was it would be smart if he wants that 6th ring


its never smart for anyone in any career to take the minimum amount of money they can make. thats just **** stupid.
alright I guess,but if he doesn't,then that will affect the cap,so if he takes 10-15 mil who could we sign?im not saying its smartest financially for him because it isn't.im saying if he wants that 6th or 7th ring then he should do that so Mitch can sign two stars than just one



all of that is really irrelevant to my point.

and which stars are you talking about exactly? because no one has shown interest in the lakers, so like doc said earlier in this thread, until max contract players commit to or show interest in signing with the lakers, theres zero reason for kobe to consider or accept a paycut.

all of this is just talk, we can all get upset with kobe or ask him to retire when his contract demands conflict with us building a good team. but that is not now.
#doorgek
NBAWestFan
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,415
And1: 128
Joined: Mar 20, 2006

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#112 » by NBAWestFan » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:35 am

By Kobe
I Heard D rose could use you or Spain
Or the Nets or Dallas
User avatar
mcscotty
Rookie
Posts: 1,159
And1: 486
Joined: Mar 04, 2013
Location: Hong Kong
 

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#113 » by mcscotty » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:35 pm

Kobe has stated that he has no intention of even taking a pay cut. He's looking for a 3 year/$90 mill extension. Kobe can be very selfish both on and off the court. His father coaches in Thailand, and he sued his own mother for trying to unload a few jerseys to buy a house. We're not getting any hometown deals from this guy.
User avatar
leeprettyp
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,950
And1: 680
Joined: Sep 18, 2012
Location: The City of Champions Los Angeles, CA
Contact:
       

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#114 » by leeprettyp » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:55 pm

mcscotty wrote:Kobe has stated that he has no intention of even taking a pay cut. He's looking for a 3 year/$90 mill extension. Kobe can be very selfish both on and off the court. His father coaches in Thailand, and he sued his own mother for trying to unload a few jerseys to buy a house. We're not getting any hometown deals from this guy.



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Image
ROballer
General Manager
Posts: 9,703
And1: 2,964
Joined: Sep 06, 2009
Location: Romania
   

Re: Could Kobe take a minimum contract in 2014 to help Laker 

Post#115 » by ROballer » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:02 pm

mcscotty wrote:Kobe has stated that he has no intention of even taking a pay cut. He's looking for a 3 year/$90 mill extension. Kobe can be very selfish both on and off the court. His father coaches in Thailand, and he sued his own mother for trying to unload a few jerseys to buy a house. We're not getting any hometown deals from this guy.


Welcome back :D
Steve Nash injures his back while carrying bags

Slava wrote:I pulled a hammy while fapping. I won't make fun of Nash.

Return to Los Angeles Lakers