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Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#361 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:45 pm

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I think you guys might be operating on an outdated perception of Pierce. Since '08 he's very much been an off-ball player. Joe Johnson also stretches the floor. Plus KG's range stretches out 18-20 feet as well as Lopez. I don't think spreading the floor, or offense in general is an issue. How high a level defensively they're able to whip up is the big question and even then it's not even that big an issue.


No, what we're saying is Pierce and AK47 can't guard people as well as they used to a few years back. Especially Pierce.

They need a wing off the bench who can take SF/SG and play tough minded D. They will definitely be a good team defense esp with two guys protecting the rim in KG and Lopez.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#363 » by pancakes3 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:53 pm

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I think you guys might be operating on an outdated perception of Pierce. Since '08 he's very much been an off-ball player. Joe Johnson also stretches the floor. Plus KG's range stretches out 18-20 feet as well as Lopez. I don't think spreading the floor, or offense in general is an issue. How high a level defensively they're able to whip up is the big question and even then it's not even that big an issue.


No, what we're saying is Pierce and AK47 can't guard people as well as they used to a few years back. Especially Pierce.

They need a wing off the bench who can take SF/SG and play tough minded D. They will definitely be a good team defense esp with two guys protecting the rim in KG and Lopez.


Pierce will start for them. AK47's per 36 is right at his career averages, except more efficient and not as good as blocks. I don't see how it's an issue. Plus, the post I quoted was questioning if Pierce was a spot up guy who can help with spacing - not that backup SF was an issue. I was just saying that Pierce and Johnson can spread the floor plenty.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#364 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:05 pm

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I think you guys might be operating on an outdated perception of Pierce. Since '08 he's very much been an off-ball player. Joe Johnson also stretches the floor. Plus KG's range stretches out 18-20 feet as well as Lopez. I don't think spreading the floor, or offense in general is an issue. How high a level defensively they're able to whip up is the big question and even then it's not even that big an issue.


No, what we're saying is Pierce and AK47 can't guard people as well as they used to a few years back. Especially Pierce.

They need a wing off the bench who can take SF/SG and play tough minded D. They will definitely be a good team defense esp with two guys protecting the rim in KG and Lopez.


Pierce will start for them. AK47's per 36 is right at his career averages, except more efficient and not as good as blocks. I don't see how it's an issue. Plus, the post I quoted was questioning if Pierce was a spot up guy who can help with spacing - not that backup SF was an issue. I was just saying that Pierce and Johnson can spread the floor plenty.


Agreed, other than Evans, this is a team that can now spread the floor at all positions... And I am not sure how much Evans is going to see the floor.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#366 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:07 pm




Alex Len was really blessed, with his medical issues in mind, to be drafted by Phoenix. They are proactive, not reactive with respect to player health. If any organization can get Alex Len's ankles right, and keep them right, it's the Suns medical staff.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#367 » by fishercob » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:31 pm

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Alex Len was really blessed, with his medical issues in mind, to be drafted by Phoenix. They are proactive, not reactive with respect to player health. If any organization can get Alex Len's ankles right, and keep them right, it's the Suns medical staff.


That's one way of looking at it. The other, with respect to Len, is.... "uh oh."
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Post#368 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 pm

I am glad the Wizards went Porter and not Len. (Not saying I didn't prefer Olynyk).
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#369 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:10 am

fishercob wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:



Alex Len was really blessed, with his medical issues in mind, to be drafted by Phoenix. They are proactive, not reactive with respect to player health. If any organization can get Alex Len's ankles right, and keep them right, it's the Suns medical staff.


That's one way of looking at it. The other, with respect to Len, is.... "uh oh."


Yeah, that's troubling. Wonder if ankle problems are going to be something he deals with his whole career.

That said, if Phoenix can get Grant Hill playing as many minutes and games as he did, they should be able make something of Len.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#370 » by Rafael122 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:15 am

Len is the next Big Z. Two surgeries near the ankle/foot area in a span of what...5 months?
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Post#371 » by hands11 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:18 am

Monta to Dallas.

Thats as good a place as any for him. Might actually work alright.
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Post#372 » by hands11 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:22 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... le-Surgery

Alex Len underwent successful surgery on his right ankle on Friday.

The Phoenix Suns selected Len with the fifth overall pick in the 2013 NBA Draft.

“As a precautionary measure, our medical staff determined that it would be prudent to perform surgery on Alex Len’s right ankle at this time,” said Lon Babby. “That surgery was successfully completed this morning. As part of a routine evaluation, our medical team identified the very beginnings of a stress fracture in Alex’s right ankle even though Alex was entirely asymptomatic. We expect him to be available to begin the season.”

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Wait.. What ?

And he is still supposed to be available to start the season.
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Post#373 » by Ruzious » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:22 am

hands11 wrote:Monta to Dallas.

Thats as good a place as any for him. Might actually work alright.

Dallas usually knows what they're doing, but if they're looking for a guard to make 3's, he's not it. He will take them, though - not to mention a lot of 20 footers. He will put up numbers.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#374 » by Ruzious » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:25 am

Rafael122 wrote:Len is the next Big Z. Two surgeries near the ankle/foot area in a span of what...5 months?

Good comp = physically. But Z had some serious skills before the feet problem. Len might be a poor man's Z. See, this is why it made no sense to downgrade Noel while not downgrading Len.
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Post#375 » by deneem4 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:41 am

Monta will shine in dallas...they might make the playoffs, if they can get a center

The cavs, kings and pelicans and wolves can also make anlot of noise
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#376 » by stevemcqueen1 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:10 am

Ruzious wrote:
hands11 wrote:Monta to Dallas.

Thats as good a place as any for him. Might actually work alright.

Dallas usually knows what they're doing, but if they're looking for a guard to make 3's, he's not it. He will take them, though - not to mention a lot of 20 footers. He will put up numbers.


I honestly have no idea what Dallas is doing any more. That's a messy roster. Half the team is PGs now, none good enough to seize the starting job and run away with it.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 3 

Post#377 » by Wizardspride » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:17 am

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
hands11 wrote:Monta to Dallas.

Thats as good a place as any for him. Might actually work alright.

Dallas usually knows what they're doing, but if they're looking for a guard to make 3's, he's not it. He will take them, though - not to mention a lot of 20 footers. He will put up numbers.


I honestly have no idea what Dallas is doing any more
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They have no idea what they're doing either.

They've been stuck in neutral since their attempt to sign Deron Williams failed.

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Post#378 » by mhd » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:20 am

Passing on Chandler may have been a smart thing to do considering how bad he looked in the playoffs.
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Post#379 » by TGW » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:53 am

I actually like Ellis in Dallas. He adds a slashing dimension to a team missing a legitimate second scorer. I'm not a fan of Ellis in general, but I think Dallas is one of those few teams that could use his abilities as a volume scorer/ballhog.
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Post#380 » by dangermouse » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:51 am

Dallas desperate to add any talent they can to surround Dirk. Which is fine, the alternative is blowing it up and moving their franchise player.

The Spurs were one of those teams that managed to get good talent to surround Duncan and then keep adding the necessary talent every year to be competitive and /or genuine contenders.

Are the Spurs exceptional in this way? Cavs couldnt do it with LeBron for example. Dallas is struggling with Dirk.
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