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Re: Billups Press Conference 

Post#101 » by dan2314 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:06 am

zeebneeb wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:No way KCP starts over Knight.



i think our lineups will shift depending on defensive match ups

Start with

Billups/knight

go to

Knight/KCP.


Also why is anyone talking about picking up mike miller, we have 16 players on our roster.
I don't like that one bit. Playing Knight as a 2-gaurd accomplishes what exactly? I want him to learn how to be a floor general, not how to chuck the ball from everywhere on the court.

I am really nervous about this, because we have a hell of an opportunity to really develop all of our young guys, and with as bad as the team was, Pope needs to develop at a quicker pace, so he can fit in well with the starters. I am being dead serious here. Who in the HELL wants Stuckey, or Knight to start at SG? Seriously? That's why we drafted a 6'6 slashing jump-shooting SG, so he can play SG!

I don't see what him being a rookie has to do with a damn thing. Im sick of giving play time to players who do not deserve it. Stuckey is a backup at best. Knight is supposed to be a PG. Who else do we start at SG? Honestly?

If we don't start Pope, why did we draft him at his slot? That is a lottery pick, and he should start.



i agree, but the feeling we are getting is that joe has said to chauncey he will start at point, and as much as i would love for KCP to start, none of our lottery picks have started day one, and it seems much more likely knight or stuckey will start there day one than KCP. of course starting a rookie is each individual coaches desicion, and cheeks may want to start him, but i would not be surprised if we see KCP have to come off the bench early, until he either proves himself enough early, or someone like chauncey gets injured - which over the last few seasons, hasnt been that uncommon.
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Re: Billups Press Conference 

Post#102 » by Pharaoh » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:06 am

easiestplayfts wrote:I was laughing when Dumars said trading Chauncey was his biggest regret....I was devastated.
But I still think that should be his second biggest regret.


I think it's his biggest regret for how he handled it (obviously Chauncey isn't happy about how it was handled) and because Chauncey was the heart and soul of that team....

losing someone like that from the locker room has long term effects casual fans don't think about...

Chauncey was the heart and soul of that team

People always say Ben Wallace was the rock on which we were built... and that Rasheed Wallace was our "Spiritual Leader"...

Was was Chauncey? IMO he was everything to everyone... you can't put a label on what he brought to the team and to the franchise.... he was different things to different guys
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Re: Billups Press Conference 

Post#103 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:14 am

zeebneeb wrote:I don't like that one bit. Playing Knight as a 2-gaurd accomplishes what exactly? I want him to learn how to be a floor general, not how to chuck the ball from everywhere on the court.


Knight has the ability to play the 2 guard spot, you don't not play him just because you want him to be strictly a PG. Also knight normally only shoots wide open shots, and he also has the capability to get to the rim. One thing that was clear is that if knight just focuses on scoring, he's a lot more effective.



I am really nervous about this, because we have a hell of an opportunity to really develop all of our young guys, and with as bad as the team was, Pope needs to develop at a quicker pace, so he can fit in well with the starters. I am being dead serious here. Who in the HELL wants Stuckey, or Knight to start at SG? Seriously? That's why we drafted a 6'6 slashing jump-shooting SG, so he can play SG!


Defense is going determine who starts at SG. however i'd be very surprised if KCP wins the starting job as a rookie. Also its really not a big concern as CB isn't going to be playing 30 mins a night.



I don't see what him being a rookie has to do with a damn thing. Im sick of giving play time to players who do not deserve it. Stuckey is a backup at best. Knight is supposed to be a PG. Who else do we start at SG? Honestly?

Its very possible BK at this point is the better SG. Matter of fact its guranteed. Its extremely rare to find a rookie game ready. common sense bud, it has nothing to do with deserving time.

If we don't start Pope, why did we draft him at his slot? That is a lottery pick, and he should start.


because he was BPA at a position of need. A lottery pick should start for a lottery team, we are a playoff team now.
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Re: Billups Press Conference 

Post#104 » by easiestplayfts » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:21 am

Pharaoh wrote:
easiestplayfts wrote:I was laughing when Dumars said trading Chauncey was his biggest regret....I was devastated.
But I still think that should be his second biggest regret.


I think it's his biggest regret for how he handled it (obviously Chauncey isn't happy about how it was handled) and because Chauncey was the heart and soul of that team....

losing someone like that from the locker room has long term effects casual fans don't think about...

Chauncey was the heart and soul of that team

People always say Ben Wallace was the rock on which we were built... and that Rasheed Wallace was our "Spiritual Leader"...

Was was Chauncey? IMO he was everything to everyone... you can't put a label on what he brought to the team and to the franchise.... he was different things to different guys


I love Chauncey but I think drafting Darko over Melo, Bosh and Wade should be number 1 (for basketball reasons).
And I have a youtube channel with videos dedicated to Chauncey.
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Re: Billups Press Conference 

Post#105 » by zeebneeb » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:35 am

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zeebneeb wrote:I don't like that one bit. Playing Knight as a 2-gaurd accomplishes what exactly? I want him to learn how to be a floor general, not how to chuck the ball from everywhere on the court.


Knight has the ability to play the 2 guard spot, you don't not play him just because you want him to be strictly a PG. Also knight normally only shoots wide open shots, and he also has the capability to get to the rim. One thing that was clear is that if knight just focuses on scoring, he's a lot more effective.



I am really nervous about this, because we have a hell of an opportunity to really develop all of our young guys, and with as bad as the team was, Pope needs to develop at a quicker pace, so he can fit in well with the starters. I am being dead serious here. Who in the HELL wants Stuckey, or Knight to start at SG? Seriously? That's why we drafted a 6'6 slashing jump-shooting SG, so he can play SG!


Defense is going determine who starts at SG. however i'd be very surprised if KCP wins the starting job as a rookie. Also its really not a big concern as CB isn't going to be playing 30 mins a night.



I don't see what him being a rookie has to do with a damn thing. Im sick of giving play time to players who do not deserve it. Stuckey is a backup at best. Knight is supposed to be a PG. Who else do we start at SG? Honestly?

Its very possible BK at this point is the better SG. Matter of fact its guranteed. Its extremely rare to find a rookie game ready. common sense bud, it has nothing to do with deserving time.

If we don't start Pope, why did we draft him at his slot? That is a lottery pick, and he should start.


because he was BPA at a position of need. A lottery pick should start for a lottery team, we are a playoff team now.
Knight would be an undersized SG. I hate midget 2-guards, and PG's. They get exploited time and time again in this league. Could our front-court cover alot of that? Sure, but it would absolutely be a sore spot.

You can say "common sense bud" if you want, but what I stated was common sense. What is Knights role on this team exactly? Is he going to be a floor general, or a SG? If he's not it, then who? Bynum? Stuckey? who exactly? Your saying Billups wont play that many minutes. I say, who cares. I want Knight to be given the chance to lead this team, and starting at SG, where he will get exploited on a nightly basis, wont help his development. I would rather him start over Billups at PG, if that's going to be the case.

"Lottery picks start on lottery teams." The Pistons have been a horrible team, so now, with these moves, you expect us to make the playoffs, at the expense of playing our rookies, alongside 2nd year players? even players younger then him? That makes zero sense. Everyone knows what Stuckey is. I don't even want him to play, save for back-up minutes. What if we don't make the playoffs, and play Pope crap minutes, as a back-up? Wasted season? Wasted development time?

Our front-court looks set(That could change, who knows)so our main concern should be the back-court, wich is a train-wreck to say the least right now. Its a mix&match of under-talented, under-sized, aging, cant shoot, don't know how to lead, bunch of basketball players. What harm would there be in starting a high draft pick, who can shoot, slash, and rebound the ball at the SG slot, wich is arguably the worst on the team right now? That makes perfect sense to me. His development early, certainly playing alongside a proven leader in Billups, who will get him the ball in the correct spots, is invaluable. Knight could then come in, and Pope, who is used to getting the ball in the right spot from Billups, could explain that to Knight.

It would also set the rotation early, instead of experimenting all the damn time, with weirdo back-courts, wich we will see alot of this season. You could see A Bynum Knight, Billups Bynum, Billups Stuckey, Stuckey Bynum, e.t.c. I don't want to see a hundered lineups to start the year. Billups Pope, or Knight Pope to start. All our other SG's, quite frankly suck.
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Post#106 » by Q00 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:37 am

Best thing for Knight is to sit and watch Chauncey do it, and then come in and try to emulate him. There's no reason to start him at SG now. Its clearly not his position longterm now that we drafted KCP, and starting him there would only confuse him more. He needs to play PG exclusively and do so behind Chauncey for a year or two.
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Post#107 » by Minas » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:04 am

I'm hoping to see KCP start at SG. I don't want Knight starting at SG, but would be happy to see him play a majority of the minutes at PG (even if Chauncey is starting). We need to develop our young guys and that's what Chauncey was brought here to do, so we can't have Chauncey playing all of BK's minutes or putting him out of position at SG.

I'm so happy that Chauncey is back though!
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Post#108 » by GBanga3 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:17 pm

Does anybody have a link to a replay of the press conference, all the current ones don't seem to work.

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Post#109 » by Hotmayo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:49 pm

^ pistons.com

Listening to chauncey talk, I think he's goon to chew stuckey out. :lol:

I know it's his contract year and I already expected stuckey to put up #'s this year, but I think he's going to benefit the most from Chauncey.

Problem is, stuck still can't shoot, and idk how Chauncey will help with that.
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Post#110 » by rmfc » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:23 pm

Hotmayo wrote:^ pistons.com

Listening to chauncey talk, I think he's goon to chew stuckey out. :lol:

I know it's his contract year and I already expected stuckey to put up #'s this year, but I think he's going to benefit the most from Chauncey.

Problem is, stuck still can't shoot, and idk how Chauncey will help with that.


Hope Stuckey gets shipped out soon regardless of what Billups thinks of him.
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Post#111 » by Hotmayo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:53 pm

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Hotmayo wrote:^ pistons.com

Listening to chauncey talk, I think he's goon to chew stuckey out. :lol:

I know it's his contract year and I already expected stuckey to put up #'s this year, but I think he's going to benefit the most from Chauncey.

Problem is, stuck still can't shoot, and idk how Chauncey will help with that.


Hope Stuckey gets shipped out soon regardless of what Billups thinks of him.


I agree with you. Stuckey has frustrated me so bad that it hard for me to want him here anymore. But ask yourself one question. What if stuckey looks like a completely different player this year who gives it his all every game. Is that bc of a contract year or bc of Chauncey instilling pride and effort back into stuckey.

I love stuckey in those playoffs against Boston. I said to myself, this guy plays like chaucey. So there's no point in having chaucey around. Lol then he got traded. Then stuckey changed. Will he go back to being aggressive. Who knows? Let's see how this plays out.
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Post#112 » by rmfc » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:07 pm

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Hotmayo wrote:^ pistons.com

Listening to chauncey talk, I think he's goon to chew stuckey out. :lol:

I know it's his contract year and I already expected stuckey to put up #'s this year, but I think he's going to benefit the most from Chauncey.

Problem is, stuck still can't shoot, and idk how Chauncey will help with that.


Hope Stuckey gets shipped out soon regardless of what Billups thinks of him.


I agree with you. Stuckey has frustrated me so bad that it hard for me to want him here anymore. But ask yourself one question. What if stuckey looks like a completely different player this year who gives it his all every game. Is that bc of a contract year or bc of Chauncey instilling pride and effort back into stuckey.

I love stuckey in those playoffs against Boston. I said to myself, this guy plays like chaucey. So there's no point in having chaucey around. Lol then he got traded. Then stuckey changed. Will he go back to being aggressive. Who knows? Let's see how this plays out.


That's the thing, though. How can you really trust Stuckey? He has had so many opportunities and has still failed. On the top of that, he acts as if he is better than everyone else...better than he really is. Who really wants and trusts a diva who is not even that good in the first place?
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Post#113 » by Mr. Krabs » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:19 pm

I think we have to consider playing Knight and Chauncey together. We are rolling with a 3-big starting lineup, and while Josh and Greg aren't bad dribblers, we need to put them together with good ball handlers. If KCP has the ability to put the ball on the floor and create offense that's great, but we are not really sure about that yet.

Starting lineup:
Billups/Knight/Smith/Monroe/Drummond

Billups or Knight/KCP/Middleton or Singler/Smith/Monroe or Drummond (sliding Josh to 4 with 3 shooters)
Knight/Stuckey/Middleton or Singler/Smith/Monroe
Bynum/KCP/Smith/Mitchell or CV/Drummond (Shooters KCP and CV together when Bynum is on the floor)
Bynum/KCP/Middleton or Singler/Mitchell or Jerebko/Drummond
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Post#114 » by itjustdo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:35 pm

Welcome back Mr. Big Shot!

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There are some people that just emanate leadership and poise, knowledge and understanding. Chauncey is one of those people. It comes through so clearly in this PC.

Great to have him back. Hoping for great things.
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Post#115 » by Piston Pete » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:43 pm

Any word on what Billups officially signed for (years/$$$)?

Did we pay him more than what we gave Bynum?

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