Archie Goodwin

Revived · Post #121 » by **Revived** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:23 am

I love how Goodwin attacks and draws fouls. Anytime you can get a rookie who already knows how to draw fouls, that's a very good sign. He had 10 pts despite making just one basket...impressive.

I wish he would trust his jumpshot more though. And Hornacek needs to let him to go iso a little bit and see if he can break down the D in a half court set. For now, Goodwin only seems to be playing well in fast break.

And he needs to take uncontested open jumpers and 3s when he has it instead of driving it in all the time into a crowd of 3 players in the paint.

I hope we keep Scola also because with the way Goodwin attacks the rim, he's gonna have to learn to flop and Scola can teach that.

jcsunsfan · Post #122 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:32 pm

Teaser Pleaser wrote:I love how Goodwin attacks and draws fouls. Anytime you can get a rookie who already knows how to draw fouls, that's a very good sign. He had 10 pts despite making just one basket...impressive.

I wish he would trust his jumpshot more though. And Hornacek needs to let him to go iso a little bit and see if he can break down the D in a half court set. For now, Goodwin only seems to be playing well in fast break.

And he needs to take uncontested open jumpers and 3s when he has it instead of driving it in all the time into a crowd of 3 players in the paint.

I hope we keep Scola also because with the way Goodwin attacks the rim, he's gonna have to learn to flop and Scola can teach that.

He needs to be a better ft shooter.

MathiasPW · Post #123 » by **MathiasPW** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:54 pm

mybloodisorange wrote:
winstoned wrote:I think for the 29th pick in the draft and absolute steal. As of now watching the rest of the rookies, who would you take ahead of AG?

I'm still not sure how he slid all the to the end of the first round. Does anyone know why so many teams passed on him? I look at a handfull of the picks taken before him and can't figure it out. Hopefully it was just him being young and raw.

Does anyone know his downside that caused so many teams to pass on him?

1. poor decidion making/turnover prone - he played part of the season as PG
2. poor shooting

sunsfolife · Post #124 » by **sunsfolife** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:43 pm

http://youtu.be/lFZ7WSsb5ts

Love the end. "All star?" "Yeh."

Revived · Post #125 » by **Revived** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:56 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
Teaser Pleaser wrote:I love how Goodwin attacks and draws fouls. Anytime you can get a rookie who already knows how to draw fouls, that's a very good sign. He had 10 pts despite making just one basket...impressive.

I wish he would trust his jumpshot more though. And Hornacek needs to let him to go iso a little bit and see if he can break down the D in a half court set. For now, Goodwin only seems to be playing well in fast break.

And he needs to take uncontested open jumpers and 3s when he has it instead of driving it in all the time into a crowd of 3 players in the paint.

I hope we keep Scola also because with the way Goodwin attacks the rim, he's gonna have to learn to flop and Scola can teach that.

He needs to be a better ft shooter.

Yea definitely. But it looks like a confidence issue with him at the line rather than anything else.

nevetsov · Post #126 » by **nevetsov** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:24 am

How about prime Sprewell? Athletic all star calibre slasher and defender, especially if he can develop a consistent jump shot.

thamadkant · Post #127 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:16 am

I've thrown the "Sprewell" name with Goodwin for a while...

But he is a better ball handler I think... and higher ceiling... the movement and athleticism is comparable but Goodwin is 18 and will improve.

SUN · Post #128 » by **SUN** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:13 am

Archie is gonna be the next big thing in the Latvian league. I can feel it.

SunZel · Post #129 » by **SunZel** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:48 am

Wonder if Goodwin's improved shooting was done by himself or with the help of Hornacek.

Revived · Post #130 » by **Revived** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:29 am

SunZel wrote:Wonder if Goodwin's improved shooting was done by himself or with the help of Hornacek.

McD said in one his interviews that he was amazed how much Goodwin had improved his shooting from the end of his college season to when they had their draft workout with him.

Now that's what I call a good work ethic.

jcsunsfan · Post #131 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:41 am

His 3pt shooting has been excellent in summer league. He seems to have the patience to take good shots.

I really wanted Oladipo who looks really good but Goodwin is starting to be a good alternative.

gaspar · Post #132 » by **gaspar** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:06 am

David Thorpe:

Someone needs to explain to me how Archie Goodwin of Phoenix dropped so far in the draft. How can someone that young, that quick, that long, and that energetic fall that far? GMs will have some explaining to do, as will lots of scouts.

Post #133 » by **ATTL** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:06 am

Honestly, depending on our starting lineup, Goodwin should be the first guard off the bench. Either that or starting at 2 next to Goran. The way he attacks is something we haven't had in a 2 since...? When did we have a 2 that attacked the rim?

gaspar · Post #134 » by **gaspar** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:12 am

ATTL wrote:Honestly, depending on our starting lineup, Goodwin should be the first guard off the bench. Either that or starting at 2 next to Goran. The way he attacks is something we haven't had in a 2 since...? When did we have a 2 that attacked the rim?

Vince Carter

BurningHeart · Post #135 » by **BurningHeart** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:38 am

Guys, it's summer league.

It's reallllllly nice that he's showing these tendencies and the mentality, but....it's summer league.

Jdiddy701 · Post #136 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:06 am

Who cares it's summer league, the potential is there.

BurningHeart · Post #137 » by **BurningHeart** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:27 am

Yes, I know. It's nice that he's looking good, but lots of people look good in summer league. He's got good tendencies which can be clear regardless of setting. Let's hope it translates into regular season action.

Jdiddy701 · Post #138 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:51 am

Yeah true but seriously what Suns player from recent years have looked more promising than him? Let us enjoy this while we can lol

We've been been blessed to watch DJ Strawberry, Alando Tucker, Taylor Griffin, Earl Clark, Robin Lopez and Kendall Marshall.

Horny · Post #139 » by **Horny** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:00 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU7Z39MZmfQ[/youtube]

Post #140 » by **TASTIC** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:31 am

http://watch.nba.com/nba/video/games/su ... stgame.nba

20pts on 5 field goals? that's insane production for a guy who could still be in high school

Loving the pick the more he plays. He won't be a star right away, but he needs to be given the chance to play at least 15-20min every night. If Brown plays more than him this year, I'm not going to be amused.

That hesitation move where he toasted the Raptors' #7 was NICE...