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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1001 » by writersblock » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:15 pm

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Hopper15 wrote:Yikes. I was hoping for some more C eligibility. The crappy Slowpez twin is my only C.


We should deal... I have 5 C's on my roster.

I need another C too.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1002 » by hamncheese » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:15 pm

I think that was the fastest "end of draft" drafting I've ever seen. Usually things slow down at the end because people aren't as enthusiastic about drafting the low end players, especially in a deep league.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1003 » by hamncheese » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Breakdown777 wrote:I call dibs on the team name "Team DNP" :D

pg - Jeff Teague (58)
sg - Dwayne Wade (18)
g - Steve Nash (77)
g - Eric Gordon (98)
sf - Mike Dunleavy (165)
pf - Amare Stoudemire (103)
f - Elton Brand (178)
f - Corey Brewer (183)
c - David Lee (44)
c - Andrew Bynum (63)
bn - Darren Collison (196)
bn - James Anderson (223)
bn - Donatas Motiejunas (258)
bn - Boris Diaw (263)


Can't argue with Team DNP as a name. It's natural to take on injury risk, but you can only take on so much. I agree that if healthy, this should be a good team for points and fg%. Above average in ft% and, if healthy, good in assists (healthy trio of Wade, Nash, and Teague is at least 19 apg, if not more, with another 10 apg collectively from Lee, Gordon, and Collison, and an average of 1 per from the remaining 8). Rebounds I am not as sure of as I see 20 from Lee and Bynum, and above average from Brand and Stoudemire, but then a big drop off with the rest of the team. And, as I list off these players, I am not confident to predict the minutes and games from the likes of Stoudemire, Bynum, Wade, Gordon, and Nash.

Can't really argue against where any of the players were drafted. Anderson might be a nice sneaky pick, though the latest talk is moving Thad to SF.

Overall as a team, I'm putting it in the bottom half of the league.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1004 » by writersblock » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:54 pm

hamncheese wrote:I think that was the fastest "end of draft" drafting I've ever seen. Usually things slow down at the end because people aren't as enthusiastic about drafting the low end players, especially in a deep league.

Amen to this.
I think it was probably a result of draft exhaustion, this draft felt like it took longer than normal for me, even though we probably finished in record short time.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1005 » by bww78 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:42 pm

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1006 » by Hopper15 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:26 am

fraanciiscoo wrote:guys in october i going to be out from chat etc since i going to play again the wsop europe
just accept a deal today
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1007 » by Hopper15 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:28 am

jfrost wrote:
Hopper15 wrote:Yikes. I was hoping for some more C eligibility. The crappy Slowpez twin is my only C.


We should deal... I have 5 C's on my roster.

I'll keep you in mind as we get close to the season opener. Would like to have 3 C's going into the season. Hoping at least Hickson gets eligibility.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1008 » by writersblock » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1009 » by fraanciiscoo » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:33 pm

bww78 wrote:Missing:

TK
Cy
Break
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didnt get only got in the other league we are ( already accepted like you know ) the semi keeper
can you send me and email w/ the league id and pass and i will join today
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1010 » by sabonis » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:54 pm

position eligibility issue is solved. Ryan Anderson and Blair got their C's so I guess I'll be ok going forward. The team has a nice variety.

Rose - PG
Conley - PG
Watson - PG
Redick - SG
Ben Gordon - SG
Jimmy Butler - SG/SF
Tucker - SG/SF
CJ Miles - SG/SF
Ilyasova - SF/PF
Moultrie - PF
Ryan Anderson - PF/C
Dejuan Blair - PF/C
Kanter - C
Olynyk - C
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1011 » by Breakdown777 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:06 pm

bww78 wrote:Missing:

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I'm in. Someone else is missing.

hamncheese wrote:Can't argue with Team DNP as a name. It's natural to take on injury risk, but you can only take on so much. I agree that if healthy, this should be a good team for points and fg%. Above average in ft% and, if healthy, good in assists (healthy trio of Wade, Nash, and Teague is at least 19 apg, if not more, with another 10 apg collectively from Lee, Gordon, and Collison, and an average of 1 per from the remaining 8). Rebounds I am not as sure of as I see 20 from Lee and Bynum, and above average from Brand and Stoudemire, but then a big drop off with the rest of the team. And, as I list off these players, I am not confident to predict the minutes and games from the likes of Stoudemire, Bynum, Wade, Gordon, and Nash.

Can't really argue against where any of the players were drafted. Anderson might be a nice sneaky pick, though the latest talk is moving Thad to SF.

Overall as a team, I'm putting it in the bottom half of the league.


I told myself I'd try to completely avoid injury this year, and then I couldn't pass up Wade at 18 (Even though I really liked John Wall, I though he'd fall to 23). After that, I decided I'd try to trade down, and base most picks on potential value...injury concerns or not. I figured all or nothing, and just kept taking the injury prone guys who have shown an ability to be very well. I also was trying to draft a roto team. There were so many injuries last year, I feel like the teams that were average everywhere ended up winning big most weeks just because some of their opponent's best players were out injured.

I hate playing to percentages because they are so fickle, but that's where I wound up being pretty solid. In most cats, I'm good enough to compete (the hope is that I get the right match-ups at the right time, and I end up winning most categories I'm competitive in). Most likely, however, I'll end up losing by a close margin every week.

If the stars align, I could win the entire thing IMO. I played to make the playoffs last year, and the 8 seed didn't really feel like an accomplishment. This year, I went top 3 or bust (which is hard to do drafting at 18).

writersblock wrote:Wow, you're not kidding about going DNP. If they all play 82 games, you're a shoe-in for the playoffs. But I doubt they all play 82 games. I do think you got some good talent later than the picks should've gone. Gordon, Nash, Wade, Bynum, and Teague should all outplay their positions, if they can stay healthy.

Other guys I like:
James Anderson: This could be an absolute steal. JRich is out for who knows how long (some say he won't play this year), and they really don't have any other shooting guards. Anderson could either be the starter or will earn enough minutes to put up some good numbers.

Donats Motiejunas: I don't think he'll get enough minutes to be a real force, but he's definitely worth the value in the 250s. He's going to have some great games while the Rockets figure out how to use Asik and Howard together. Asik really isn't a scorer, so he can't play PF, and though Greg Smith may start, Motiejunas is just as good as he is.

Guys that I have to admit I don't like:
David Lee: He's a name guy who you think is great, but when you look at his numbers, he's not that great. Sure, he'll double double in points and boards, but no blocks. His %s are good, but I think you could have gotten guys who would fill the stat sheet better at 44.
Amare: I think he's done. Even if he's not done, he's another guy that doesn't do much more than score.
Boris Diaw: He's a waste of a pick. Sure it's a pick in the 260s, but there were people with a better chance of putting up numbers than him.
Collison: You got him really late, so I shouldn't knock this pick too much. I just don't think he'll get the minutes he needs behind CP3. He was getting almost 30 min/game last year. He'll get enough to be serviceable I'm sure, but I just don't think he'll be that great. But I guess something like 8 ppg, 3ast, .5-1 steal isn't bad value for a pick at 196.

So where does that leave your team?
You're really strong in %s, especially FG%. You should also be strong in points and boards. TOs shouldn't be too bad either. As for Assists, steals, 3s, and blocks, I'd say you're probably average.
You're a playoff team if everyone plays. You're bottom of the heap if DNPs and playing time limits add up like they most likely will. In fact, you could be that team that everyone looks at and says, wow, that's a great roster on paper. Why isn't he doing better than that?


Thanks for the compliments on James Anderson. I really liked him as a "D and 3" coming out of college, but he hasn't done much in the NBA. I was sort of wondering where everyone else had him targeted. I've thought from the beginning it made more sense from a talent standpoint to just move Thad Young to SF, but even if that happens Anderson should be in line for some decent minutes (I just hope he doesn't kill my FG%).

David Lee's lack of blocks are a killer, but I sort of went with a roto idea because I wanted to be good everywhere, and I felt Lee was a solid pick. I had Lee on a roto team last year that got 1st, so I took him again. The Assists from the FC spot are nice too.

Amare - I hadn't read about the possibility of no back2back's and 20 minute limit until Curty :wink: posted the link in the SKL thread. That bummed me out, but at 103 he should still be great for FG%, points, some boards, and a decent FT% for a big. Hopefully he doesn't miss additional time. :pray:

Diaw - He had a rank of 184 last year, which was higher than any other of the other players I was looking at. Splitter will get most of the minutes, but with Blair's departure I think Diaw will still get his. I was really only looking for efficiency and multi-cat possibility, and I feel like I got that with my final pick.

Collison - He's been a backup before, and put up solid but unspectacular PG stats then. He doesn't shoot threes, but I'm hoping for some assist and steal help and not much else. Chris Paul ain't no spring chicken either, so Collison may very well start some games if CP3 can't go.

I'll take pretty good in 4 CATS and average in another 4 any day. If I'm healthy and am that good, I really feel like dark horse to do pretty well this season. Staying healthy is the big if though.

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1012 » by sabonis » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:53 pm

jfrost wrote:My draft is complete and here is my team...

Dwight Howard
Josh Smith
Rajon Rondo
Andre Iguodala
Tyson Chandler
Joe Johnson
Omer Asik
CJ McCollum
Jason Thompson
Nate Robinson
Gerald Green
Alex Len
Andrew Nicholson
Austin Rivers

Let the team reviews commence!


that's the perfect dwight team. Dwight-JSmoove-Rondo-Iggy

you got jojo to contribute to assists, Tyson Chandler and Omer Asik to give more fg%-reb-blocks but Asik has to be traded. I don't like the rest of the picks though. McCollum-JT-Nate-Green are all in timeshares or secondary bench roles. Len could be valuable if Gortat gets traded.
The team is very strong in the Dwight-Rondo categories and could win 5-4 almost every week. but I'm not really sure if the rest of the roster can back them up or not. Also until Rondo returns, you're looking at 3-6 losses against any team. So everything has to go according to plan after Rondo returns.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1013 » by Cyrus » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:36 pm

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1014 » by bww78 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:51 pm

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1015 » by Hopper15 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:19 am

floppymoose wrote:I'm under the impression that a lot of players currently listed with single position eligibility will return to dual position. Don't make any panic moves for now.

Ahhh, 4 Centers now. All is right with the world.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1016 » by writersblock » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Hopper15 wrote:
floppymoose wrote:I'm under the impression that a lot of players currently listed with single position eligibility will return to dual position. Don't make any panic moves for now.

Ahhh, 4 Centers now. All is right with the world.


Yay, me too. Except I have 5 PF/Cs, 7 guards and 1 Small forward (I was sure Brandon Rush had been a G/F). Anyone who needs a guard or PF/C and can offer up an SF, send me an offer.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1017 » by sabonis » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:40 pm

His play style suggests he's a sg/sf but I think he was sg only last year as well

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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1018 » by Hopper15 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:52 pm

In the two games he managed to play before Zeebo cheap shotted him, he most definitely played SF.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1019 » by sabonis » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:06 pm

cheapshot? nah. it was a legitimate attempt at a block/hard foul preventing the dunk. there are hundreds of plays like this every year. it was an accident. zbo is a good guy

btw yeah I meant that his fantasy position last year was only SG but he would have played much more at SF if his season didn't end so soon.
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Re: FFL - 2013-14 - Draft in progress 

Post#1020 » by writersblock » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:28 pm

Thing is, he has normally been a G/F, so this SG categorization bugs me, especially since he'll be backing up both Burkes and Hayward.
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