Player position/archetypes

Rashidi · Post #1 » by **Rashidi** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:31 am

Point Guard (PG)
Combo Guard (PG/SG)
Shooting Guard (SG)
Swing Man (SG/SF)
Small Forward (SF)
Combo Forward (SF/PF)
Power Forward (PF)
What do I call them (PF/C)
Center (C)

Undersized center?
Mobile center?
Combo center?

Reluctant to call them "Finesse center" because Marc Gasol and Spencer Hawes have skills yet lack the quickness to defend the PF spot

PF
Dirk Nowitzki, Carlos Boozer, Taj Gibson, Brandon Bass, Paul Millsap, Udonis Haslem, Carl Landry, David West, Josh McRoberts

PF/C
Tim Duncan, Tiago Splitter, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Chris Bosh, Kevin Garnett, Greg Monroe, Nene, Amare Stoudemire

C
Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, DeMarcus Cousins, Tyson Chandler, Brook Lopez, Nikola Pekovic, Nikola Vucevic, Roy Hibbert, Andrew Bogut, Jonas Valanciunas, Chris Kaman

Danny11 · Post #2 » by **Danny11** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:46 am

Rashidi wrote:Point Guard (PG)
Combo Guard (PG/SG)
Shooting Guard (SG)
Swing Man (SG/SF)
Small Forward (SF)
Combo Forward (SF/PF) [or a tweener]
Power Forward (PF)
What do I call them (PF/C) I would just call them a "Big man"
Center (C)

Undersized center?
Mobile center?
Combo center?

Reluctant to call them "Finesse center" because Marc Gasol and Spencer Hawes have skills yet lack the quickness to defend the PF spot

Rashidi · Post #3 » by **Rashidi** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:55 am

That's not exactly descriptive, as centers are "big men".

I think I'm going with "Small Centers"

siydee · Post #4 » by **siydee** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:45 am

Forward Center. Tweener may also be applicable.

FlashFlare · Post #5 » by **FlashFlare** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:49 am

centward

TheGarden · Post #6 » by **TheGarden** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:10 am

Stretch 5's????

DoubleLintendre · Post #7 » by **DoubleLintendre** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:32 am

I'm going with calling it "Spencer Hawes"

wallflower · Post #8 » by **wallflower** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:27 am

Ability to play both forward positions is usually called tweeners or cornermen or just plain forwards. Ability to play pf/center would be called forward/center pivotmen or just plain big man. Some players like Lebron/magic/Anthony Randolph/posey are called utility players/versatile/ or all around players

TheGarden · Post #9 » by **TheGarden** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:13 am

wallflower wrote:Ability to play both forward positions is usually called tweeners or cornermen or just plain forwards. Ability to play pf/center would be called forward/center pivotmen or just plain big man. Some players like Lebron/magic/Anthony Randolph/posey are called utility players/versatile/ or all around players

never thought I'd see the day Anthony Randolph would be in the same category as LBJ and Magic

BruceO · Post #10 » by **BruceO** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:26 pm

It'd also be interesting to analyze what their roles are on. Both ends of the Court for the archetype and statistically what is produced for certain types who are successful and in combination with which other archetypes for team building

NumberSign · Post #11 » by **NumberSign** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:27 pm

Those PF/C players are in the "Would be a Power Forward in the 80s/90s" category.

Brauer · Post #12 » by **Brauer** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:30 pm

I think we should divide each position even further. For example, differentiate Combo Guards like Allen Iverson from others like Tyreke Evans. Also, divide SF positions into 3D, Point Forward, Slashing. Do the same with each position. I could probably elaborate more but I'm lazy and you guys probably know what I mean :lol:

Post #13 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:32 pm

Combo big?

Aldridge is a good example of one.

Post #14 » by **mopper8** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:33 pm

I think "pivotman" is right for the PF/C

Novocaine · Post #15 » by **Novocaine** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:39 pm

What's in a name?

Honestly, why care? Positions are quite immaterial, it's all fluid these days. Players have roles, functions and traits. The spectrum of combination is virtually endless, you can't come up with a taxonomy that covers all of them.

whitehops · Post #16 » by **whitehops** » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:31 pm

I couldn't care less about positions if it weren't for fantasy basketball.

Rashidi · Post #17 » by **Rashidi** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:47 am

Impacien wrote:What's in a name?

Honestly, why care? Positions are quite immaterial, it's all fluid these days. Players have roles, functions and traits. The spectrum of combination is virtually endless, you can't come up with a taxonomy that covers all of them.

Related to a formula and scale I was devising for post offense and defense in NBA 2K14.

PFs like Paul Millsap are not posting up against Cs like Pekovic, but PF/Cs like Al Horford surely are. Conversely, a player like Horford could be guarded in the post by either Pekovic or Millsap.

That has an impact on their statistical production in this area.

Knighthonor · Post #18 » by **Knighthonor** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:58 am

Whats a PG/SF called?

gleity · Post #19 » by **gleity** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:01 am

Knighthonor wrote:Whats a PG/SF called?

Tyreke Evans?

TheWhiteMamba · Post #20 » by **TheWhiteMamba** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:04 am

Op you forgot "point forward"

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