#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

SpearNMgicHelmt · Post #361 » by **SpearNMgicHelmt** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:56 pm

Even his shot-blocking instincts aren't quite right, because he got started playing overseas where the goal-tending rules are different.

Post #362 » by **JDR720** » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:36 pm

yea the goaltending thing is an adjustment, surprised he hasen't got more goaltending penalties, he did have a tripple double 12pts 11reb and 10blks in 28mins he dominated the USA in the 2011 Nike Hoop Summit

some players on team USA he beasted

MKG
Anthony Davis
James Michael McAdoo

for even more epicness he had 5more reb than his next highest teammate (Evan Fournier)
and he had 10 his teams 11 blocks

Eoghan · Post #363 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:09 am

He'll probably lead the league in that new delay of game rule where you can't touch the ball after it goes throw the hoop.

Post #364 » by **fatlever** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:47 pm

HornetJail · Post #365 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:58 pm

fatlever wrote:

That's the final straw. Our rim protector got dunked on by a 5'6 white guy. I'm done. Trade Biyombo for a 2nd rounder.

countryboi · Post #366 » by **countryboi** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:29 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
fatlever wrote:

That's the final straw. Our rim protector got dunked on by a 5'6 white guy. I'm done. Trade Biyombo for a 2nd rounder.

what am i watching and who are these people

Kabookalu · Post #367 » by **Kabookalu** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:44 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
fatlever wrote:

That's the final straw. Our rim protector got dunked on by a 5'6 white guy. I'm done. Trade Biyombo for a 2nd rounder.

His on court awareness is also extremely poor, didn't even see the play coming at all.

Liver_Pooty · Post #368 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:02 am

Brotherdave... I just want to go ahead and apologize. I misjudged the man a little bit. If he can continue to improve like he has this off season.

Awesome.

HornetJail · Post #369 » by **HornetJail** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:19 am

I know it's the preseason and I don't want to judge anything at all on these 75% performances, but god damn I like Biz right now as much as I did when we drafted him and I haven't been able to say that in a while. Go Bismack!!

Liver_Pooty · Post #370 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:21 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:I know it's the preseason and I don't want to judge anything at all on these 75% performances, but god damn I like Biz right now as much as I did when we drafted him and I haven't been able to say that in a while. Go Bismack!!

Watched him catch a a 35 foot pass for an alley hoop tonight. Last season, or hell even in summer league that would not have happened. I was so down in summer league that I was ready to pronounce him as being a semi bust. Boy was I wrong. He is still a year or two or maybe three away from being the player that I thought he could be when we drafted him, which is Ben Wallace, but he is getting there.

Eoghan · Post #371 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:00 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Brotherdave... I just want to go ahead and apologize. I misjudged the man a little bit. If he can continue to improve like he has this off season.

Awesome.

No apologies necessary, old chum. I knew it would be pulling teeth with the chitty coaching staffs we've had, now with Ewing and Price and Clifford coaching him up and NBA caliber bigs in Jefferson and McRoberts to go against in practice instead of DJ White, Diop, and Mullens, he is finally resembling an NBA player. He responds well to being given minutes so I felt like a lot of his big flaws like bobbling passes would diminish with reps.

I'm still tempering my expectations for this season, next year I think will be his breakout year. He'll probably have some mini-breakouts with some stretches of meh this year thanks to adjusting to new coaches and teammates.

Hopefully MKG can turn it around. I think he will.

Post #372 » by **Diop** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:16 am

I think Cliffords approach of play within your strengths as helped as well.

He's now concentrating on rebounding, defence and its given him a good base to build on.
Giving him a clear role he can excel in also helps his confidence/comfort levels.

Before it always seemed to be "Biz works extremely hard at developing everything at once"
Wasn't realistic.

Marvel · Post #373 » by **Marvel** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:15 pm

Y'all have no faith, I was never down on Biz. He is going to be a stud. Everyone's comparing him to other rebounding defensive bigs who can give you 10ppg, but soon people will start comparing other bigs to Biz.

Elden Payton · Post #374 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:39 am

I have complete faith that Biyombo will become a Tyson Chandler/Larry Sanders/Marcus Camby type player.

I think that his worse caase ceiling is Samuel Dalembert which I'm extremely happy with at pick 7.

Liver_Pooty · Post #375 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:05 am

Marvel wrote:Y'all have no faith, I was never down on Biz. He is going to be a stud. Everyone's comparing him to other rebounding defensive bigs who can give you 10ppg, but soon people will start comparing other bigs to Biz.

Lol to be fair its easy to get down on a guy who couldn't catch a simple bounce pass. My son is 6 and can do that

lmcguir5 · Post #376 » by **lmcguir5** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:34 pm

As long as we ask him to stay within himself, we can't be all that disappointed. The fact that Clifford asked him to focus on rebounding and defense alone is a good indication of this, and since that point, Biz has positively responded. I nearly threw my phone when I saw BIz put up 21 boards against the Bucks, and another 20 against the knicks. I have high hopes for him heading into this season and I hope he continues to get better. If he could be a Larry Sanders type player in the future, I would be ecstastic (Not necessarily about the price tag though).

Marvel · Post #377 » by **Marvel** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:07 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Marvel wrote:Y'all have no faith, I was never down on Biz. He is going to be a stud. Everyone's comparing him to other rebounding defensive bigs who can give you 10ppg, but soon people will start comparing other bigs to Biz.

Lol to be fair its easy to get down on a guy who couldn't catch a simple bounce pass. My son is 6 and can do that

Blahblahblah...

Liver_Pooty · Post #378 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:04 am

Marvel wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Marvel wrote:Y'all have no faith, I was never down on Biz. He is going to be a stud. Everyone's comparing him to other rebounding defensive bigs who can give you 10ppg, but soon people will start comparing other bigs to Biz.

Lol to be fair its easy to get down on a guy who couldn't catch a simple bounce pass. My son is 6 and can do that

Blahblahblah...

Red Larrivee · Post #379 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:32 pm

With the wingspan and athleticism he possesses, it was always disappointing that Biyombo wasn't more of a threat on the glass. Preseason is no stranger to obscure statistics, but hopefully Biyombo's rebounding will be improved this season. He won't average 10 a game, but he should focus on becoming an elite rebounder per minute. Think of what Ben Wallace was able to do despite his height limitations.

Elden Payton · Post #380 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:04 pm

Obviously only preseason stats but he averaged 10.62 rebounds in 28.8 minutes which is a very encouraging sign.

I hope we give Biyombo at least 26 minutes a game this season, he could really be a threat off the bench if he can average 6/8/2 or something along them lines.

I have always been really high on Biyombo and he is starting to put it all together but we can't be disappointed if he doesn't set the world on fire this season.

His combination of athleticism, wingspan and shotblocking is exceptional and he could be that rare combination of a shotblocking and rebounding big in the modern era, I say rare because it seems these days that the rebounders aren't great shotblockers and the shotblockers aren't great rebounders.

People have given the Biz pick some heat over the last few seasons but the real bust of the top ten is Vesely and as projects Biz>Jan.

My biggest nightmare would be that Biz has his breakout year in the fourth year of his rookie contract and we have to give him 10m+ which would be major coin for a guy we've invested so much in already.