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Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII

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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#161 » by Orlwillbeback » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:16 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:How long did it take Ariza to start shooting jumpshots at a reasonable percentage? Is that how long it's going to take for Moe?

Wasn't really a time, it was just a contract year.
04-05: 31% <--- Rookie Season
05-06: 21% <--- Traded to Orlando at deadline
06-07: 31%
07-08: 28% <--- Traded to LA, missed most of the year
08-09: 35% <--- Contract year
09-10: 30% <--- Signed with Houston, back to reality
10-11: 29% <--- Houston saw enough, sent him to NO for C. Lee
11-12: 31%
12-13: 35% <---New Orleans trades him in a deal for Rashard Lewis's corpse. Couldn't start for a lottery team.

Last year was Ariza's only decent shooting year aside from the contract year. the common thread is that he was coming off the bench and had a ball dominant guard who didn't let him go all Nick Young on everybody. If Moe becomes this guy, I will be OK letting him walk.

what stat is this? Is this 3pt shooting or overall shooting outside of the basket area? The main area I'am concerned with is shooting outside of the basket area. Harkless was abysmal everywhere away from the basket last year, and frankly hasnt looked any different in the preseason.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#162 » by KingRobb02 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:23 pm

Harris: 17 pts + 8 reb + 2 ast + 1 stl +1 blk
Harkless: 12 pts + 6 reb + 1 ast + 2 stl +1 blk
Oladipo: 13 pts + 4 reb + 5 ast + 2 stl +1 blk
Vucevic: 14 pts + 13 reb + 2 ast + 1 stl +1 blk


Just my guess. I assume that if they all hit those numbers, we will be a lot better.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#163 » by KingRobb02 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:24 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:How long did it take Ariza to start shooting jumpshots at a reasonable percentage? Is that how long it's going to take for Moe?

Wasn't really a time, it was just a contract year.
04-05: 31% <--- Rookie Season
05-06: 21% <--- Traded to Orlando at deadline
06-07: 31%
07-08: 28% <--- Traded to LA, missed most of the year
08-09: 35% <--- Contract year
09-10: 30% <--- Signed with Houston, back to reality
10-11: 29% <--- Houston saw enough, sent him to NO for C. Lee
11-12: 31%
12-13: 35% <---New Orleans trades him in a deal for Rashard Lewis's corpse. Couldn't start for a lottery team.

Last year was Ariza's only decent shooting year aside from the contract year. the common thread is that he was coming off the bench and had a ball dominant guard who didn't let him go all Nick Young on everybody. If Moe becomes this guy, I will be OK letting him walk.

what stat is this? Is this 3pt shooting or overall shooting outside of the basket area? The main area I'am concerned with is shooting outside of the basket area. Harkless was abysmal everywhere away from the basket last year, and frankly hasnt looked any different in the preseason.

Jump shots outside the paint. it includes 3 pointers as well.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#164 » by KingRobb02 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Neon1 wrote:All Nick Young? The guy takes 10.9 shots a game per36 for his career, Harkless took 10.3 shots per36 as a rookie, we all know Harkless isn't out there shooting all day, you are talking like Ariza is out there just firing shots with no concience.

That's a prime example of what I was talking about earlier with people creating a picture in their head (positive and negative) that is exaggerated from reality.

Wasn't referring to his shot volume, but to the fact that he has horrible shot selection. I would be fine with him taking 20 shots per game if they were all good shots. Watching Ariza from the past four seasons is a clinic on how to take ill-advised jump shots.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#165 » by Orlwillbeback » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:55 pm

lol I remember John Hollinger making fun of Ariza in his annual scouting reports, saying he takes at least one shot a game where he just pulls up early in the shot clock in fires it and names the shot "The Justifier": a shot he takes that justifies his contract with Houston lol
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Post#166 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:31 pm

Talked to the Boss today. Still says he won't go to or watch a single Magic game. He is done with pro basketball I altogether. College it is I reckon. 10 years of being a lower bowl season ticket holder down the drain. Sad.
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Post#167 » by KingRobb02 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:03 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:lol I remember John Hollinger making fun of Ariza in his annual scouting reports, saying he takes at least one shot a game where he just pulls up early in the shot clock in fires it and names the shot "The Justifier": a shot he takes that justifies his contract with Houston lol

Man I miss snarky Hollinger.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#168 » by RYgoBOOM » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:15 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Talked to the Boss today. Still says he won't go to or watch a single Magic game. He is done with pro basketball I altogether. College it is I reckon. 10 years of being a lower bowl season ticket holder down the drain. Sad.

Your last year in 10 :( and my first year ever with season tickets lol.

1st of many most likely as I see us getting better and better year after year from here on out!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#169 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:22 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:Talked to the Boss today. Still says he won't go to or watch a single Magic game. He is done with pro basketball I altogether. College it is I reckon. 10 years of being a lower bowl season ticket holder down the drain. Sad.

Your last year in 10 :( and my first year ever with season tickets lol.

1st of many most likely as I see us getting better and better year after year from here on out!


Now is probably the time to buy being the price is cheapest and one can lock in the seats they want. I talked to a rep about it, but I wanted one of (3) center sections in the upper bowl, but only wanted 1st row. Because, you have nobody in front of you and a great view of the court. Not as comfy as where I used to sit below with cup holders, but I like to lean on the railing in front of me in the upper level. Have fun. Been there, done that. I need more time to concentrate on new music projects that I am working on.

I am sure I will be back in there someday. I mean, I been to Shaq's and Dwights first NBA game, multiple playoff games, opening night of new arena etc etc. You don't just throw those things away. Just using money for other things for a while. Still saving for a nice Bugera Tri-Rec amp, then I need new Tubes for it plus pedals, eq and noise gate etc. Triple Rectifier amps rule. Taking a long break from Hip Hop to work on Metal, lol.
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Post#170 » by Driguez » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:23 pm

OrlandO wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post#171 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:28 pm

Someone needs to post that GIF on Oladipo's Twitter or someone on the Magic to show it to him. He gotta love that!
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Post#172 » by OrlandO » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:40 am

sixers waived royce white... shocker! lol
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Re: Official Speculation Thread Pt.LXII 

Post#173 » by T-Rob » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:17 am

OrlandO wrote:sixers waived royce white... shocker! lol


Maybe he will go play overseas now.. after taking a boat to get there ofcourse.
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Post#174 » by I Rasharted » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:38 am

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Post#175 » by Neato » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:54 am

smh royce white smh. don't come back when you're broke pretending to be all cured.
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Post#176 » by AdamTheGreek » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:58 am

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Post#177 » by The Real Dalic » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:06 am

It's a shame Royce White didn't get over his fear, he has some talent.
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Post#178 » by RickB-Orlando » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:20 am

The Real Dalic wrote:It's a shame Royce White didn't get over his fear, he has some talent.

The good news is that his contract is still guaranteed, so no need to worry about him for a few years.
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Post#179 » by blue and white » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:33 am

anybody have any hidden gem players the magic can target from dumb teams like they did last year with tobias and vuc from philly? some names i got are kevin seraphin from the wiz who reminds me of nicholson with more size jason thompson from sac who weve talked about alot and alexey shved from minny who looks like the odd man out in the rotation.
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Post#180 » by p0peye » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:15 am

Tony Wroten.

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