Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets

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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#161 » by therealbig3 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:53 pm

CablexDeadpool wrote:Whoopty freaking do. James Harden put up 15 points and brought them back, you give the ball to Harden and you die with him.


That's all fine and dandy, but Harden didn't want the ball in the possession you're talking about, and he actually was the one that killed that possession, so he has no business yelling at Lin.

And Harden did get the ball on the last 2 possessions for the Rockets with a chance to ice the game, and he bricked both of his shots.

Guess the Rockets died with him.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#162 » by Kobe8Forever » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:54 pm

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DLaren wrote:The term "bullying" is being used too loosely these days.


Agreed!

Sucks that some kids got killed by this but at the same time its' being thrown around too loosely.
Like we Americans are raising our kids to pansy with no backbone.

I got bullied in high school I just found alternate ways to get even.
Like sleeping with their girlfriends or mothers. :wink:


You have quite the imagine don't you?
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#163 » by CablexDeadpool » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:56 pm

Crose wrote:
Did you watch the game?


The game where Harden played 44 mins and put up 35 points 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals and 2 blocks on 567 TS with a 30 Usage rating and 8 TO percentage

Yeah

When James Harden brought the Rockets back with a 15 point second half...yeah

When the Rockets royally screwed up the last 2 mins of the game...yeah

therealbig3 wrote:
That's all fine and dandy, but Harden didn't want the ball in the possession you're talking about, and he actually was the one that killed that possession, so he has no business yelling at Lin.

And Harden did get the ball on the last 2 possessions for the Rockets with a chance to ice the game, and he bricked both of his shots.

Guess the Rockets died with him.


They probably ganged up on Lin because Steve Blake was his man and it looks like he was yelling at Howard and the fact that Jeremy Lin took one of the last shots and didn't get James Harden the ball on that posession.

Pretty much nobody knows wtf is going on and I particularly don't care, I just find it funny everybody is ganging on James Harden when he pretty much put down some Lebron like stat line.
ken6199 wrote:A Rocket's loss really brought out the best of people. It makes me realize this forum is filled with jobless scumbags with their only intention to come hate the team they hate and realize their anger from their life/job/wife/kids or whatever.


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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#164 » by Kobe8Forever » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:59 pm

Scraptor wrote:To the people saying "The league is too soft", "man up", etc etc, I don't think anyone has a problem with teammates or coaches yelling at each other.

The issue is accountability. If the guys ****ing up are yelling at the guy who didn't **** up, it means they're not taking responsibility for their own play, like Harden's isos and Dwight's inability to close out or shoot FTs. It's poor leadership and it's crappy for the locker room. Same goes for the coaches.

Google Popovich yelling and you'll see him yelling at Duncan and Parker all the time. I have no idea why Harden and Howard are getting a free ride given that they're both signed to long-term deals.


I also find those posts ridiculous. A large part of "manning up" is taking personal responsibility for your own mistakes. "Manning up" also does not include accepting blame for someone else's mistakes like a bitch. Gotta love fake internet tough guys.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#165 » by AustinRiversGod » Fri Nov 8, 2013 8:59 pm

CablexDeadpool wrote:
Crose wrote:
Did you watch the game?


The game where Harden played 44 mins and put up 35 points 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals and 2 blocks on 567 TS with a 30 Usage rating and 8 TO percentage

Yeah

When James Harden brought the Rockets back with a 15 point second half...yeah

When the Rockets royally screwed up the last 2 mins of the game...yeah

Yeah my 4 year old nephew can dig up those stats. I think it's safe to say you didn't at least watch the last two minutes when they "royally screwed up"
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#166 » by CablexDeadpool » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:03 pm

AustinRiversGod wrote:Yeah my 4 year old nephew can dig up those stats. I think it's safe to say you didn't watch the game



Nah just watched James Harden carry the Rockets for 44 mins while they couldn't do anything right

While Jeremy Lin couldn't get over a screen and Howard couldn't hit free throws

And Parsons forgot who to throw the inbound pass to

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ken6199 wrote:A Rocket's loss really brought out the best of people. It makes me realize this forum is filled with jobless scumbags with their only intention to come hate the team they hate and realize their anger from their life/job/wife/kids or whatever.


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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#167 » by Kobe8Forever » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:03 pm

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MistyMountain20 wrote:But he didn't screw up. And where's the yelling at Harden for wasting possessions by dribbling out the clock or not playing any defense, for Parsons throwing an ill-advised pass to the worst free shooter on the court, to Beverly for playing like crap on offense and for Howard for still being a completely pathetic free shooter. It seems pretty one-sided this whole blame game.


Jeremy Lin violated Basketball Code, you give the ball to your star no matter what and you die with him. Whatever the hell shot Jeremy Lin took at the last possession was crap.

James Harden avg 26 points a damn game, you don't take one of the last shots and it was that bad.

And James Harden was the one who brought them back in the first place.

Then Jeremy Lin couldn't get around the screen and Howard was late to help and Lin was clapping his hands at Howard.

James Harden and Howard are the stars and Jeremy Lin isn't. In Basketball there is a hierarchy. Just like Mario Chalmers is the Miami's Big 3 whipping boy, Jeremy Lin is probably gonna end up the James Harden and Howard's whipping boy.

Give the ball to Harden, cover up his defensive mistakes and I don't know what the problem is, everybody was loving him last year when he was crap :lol:


Not sure if trolling or stupid.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#168 » by JSmooth93 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:04 pm

NOODLESTYLE wrote:
In addition,

can we get some love for Steve Blake, who has been criticized in the past about choking in clutch situations and D'Antoni helping to setup that last play? or is that too much?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVOm2R1lq58[/youtube]

Yeah, you could see from Blake's energy on the inbounds before the final one, that the play was designed for him to get an open shot.

I knew he was gonna drill it.

As much praise as Beverly gets, he got caught up on the Gasol screen too easily.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#169 » by boateng » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:07 pm

I have never seen a player as pompous and as awful as dwight howard.The phrase ''talks the talk but can't walk the walk'' applies to him,

For all his mouth, demands, holding franchises hostage, he isn't that good. Shaq was similar in terms of ego, but shaq backed up his ego with 4 rings, and being probably the most unstoppable centre in nba history.
Now, Dwight Howard may go on and win multiple rings, but right now he looks like a player that cannot be a number 1 option on a contending team because he is a liability offensively and can't hit free throws. How can you have come into to the league almost 10 years ago but still have no post game what so ever?
Every player cannot be Hakeem or McHale in the post (a lot of that is just pure genetic talent imo), but dwight howard should have some post moves and he doesn't.

I can see why most of the nba greats hate him.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#170 » by therealbig3 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:09 pm

CablexDeadpool wrote:They probably ganged up on Lin because Steve Blake was his man and it looks like he was yelling at Howard and the fact that Jeremy Lin took one of the last shots and didn't get James Harden the ball on that posession.


Because Harden broke the play on that possession by not doing what he was supposed to do. Not Lin's fault. And Harden got the chance to make a play on the last 2 possessions and failed both times. Not Lin's fault.

Howard was supposed to switch, Lin was screened off. Not Lin's fault.

Harden and Howard screwed up and instead of taking responsibility for it, they're shifting the blame onto Lin. It's immature and stupid, and that's why people are criticizing them. Lin was making the right basketball plays, while Harden and Howard were not. It's sad that you think it's ok for them to get away with it, just because they're the stars, and that the role player that's doing his job should take the blame for their mistakes.

CablexDeadpool wrote:Pretty much nobody knows wtf is going on and I particularly don't care, I just find it funny everybody is ganging on James Harden when he pretty much put down some Lebron like stat line.


Yeah, but without LeBron James impact. He was a revolving door on defense, got away with plays that should have been fouls anyway, and he broke the offense by either not doing what he was supposed to do, or by ballhogging and freezing out teammates. You have to look beyond the numbers sometimes.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#171 » by CablexDeadpool » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:09 pm

Kobe8Forever wrote:Not sure if trolling or stupid.



No, Just Basketball is a Me sport.

When a guy plays 44 mins a game and pretty much the main scorer on that team, he doesn't make mistakes.

Lakers loss is on everybody else but James Harden.

Nobody else on that team even cracked 20. Until somebody on that team is cracking 20 points a game , or put in the minutes Harden put in, I ain't gonna criticize Harden, he does all heavy lifting.

All everybody else gotta do is play defense and don't make mistakes and they didn't and they loss.

End of story.
ken6199 wrote:A Rocket's loss really brought out the best of people. It makes me realize this forum is filled with jobless scumbags with their only intention to come hate the team they hate and realize their anger from their life/job/wife/kids or whatever.


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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#172 » by Kobe8Forever » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:10 pm

JSmooth93 wrote:As much praise as Beverly gets, he got caught up on the Gasol screen too easily.


That's not on Beverly. The defensive strategy of the rockets was to switch on each screen and Beverly got screened. Dwight sat on Gasol too long, no doubt getting confused by the double screen (how long has he been in the league?), and just didn't rotate to Blake quick enough.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#173 » by Seralin » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:17 pm

Rockets would have won last night's game with Asik in for Howard. Haven't seen someone with so mcuh lack of commitment against a team that was trying to make a statement to him. Had Dwight actually tried to carry his arse away from the basket to set the screens that Asik was doing anytime he was on the floor, the score would have been different. He is not a consistently capable scorer, as he showed last night.

And to people, who hope he can still learn something new offensively, wake up. He won't, which is one big reason why Harden is playing a lot more selfish than usual at the moment.

And it is sad that there is really no unity on the Rockets team right now. Last year's team was more energetic than this year's. Probably, this is what Lakers fans observed last year as well, with Howard being Howard, literally, destroying them from the inside.

The worst part is if Rockets can bring a quality scorer for Lin and Asik, Howard will turn into an even worse cancer for them, considering that he will probably become the third option offensively.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#174 » by SmoothKobra » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:18 pm

Only read the first couple posts, but this happens on every level of basketball, from high school to the pro level. Lin needed to be in position to go over the top of the screen when defending the last play, and instead he allowed himself to get sealed off and allowed the game winner. Rockets stars are upset with him, and rightfully so. Lin looks like he's not going to last long in Houston, and that's probably the right move for both parties. Lin wants to be a starter and a scorer, and he's just not a main piece on a team with Harden and Howard. I still have Houston coming out of the West. It would be crazy if they actually got some viable pieces for Lin.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#175 » by misterrunon » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:22 pm

Seralin wrote:Rockets would have won last night's game with Asik in for Howard. Haven't seen someone with so mcuh lack of commitment against a team that was trying to make a statement to him. Had Dwight actually tried to carry his arse away from the basket to set the screens that Asik was doing anytime he was on the floor, the score would have been different. He is not a consistently capable scorer, as he showed last night.

And to people, who hope he can still learn something new offensively, wake up. He won't, which is one big reason why Harden is playing a lot more selfish than usual at the moment.

And it is sad that there is really no unity on the Rockets team right now. Last year's team was more energetic than this year's. Probably, this is what Lakers fans observed last year as well, with Howard being Howard, literally, destroying them from the inside.

The worst part is if Rockets can bring a quality scorer for Lin and Asik, Howard will turn into an even worse cancer for them, considering that he will probably become the third option offensively.


dwight is a black hole of a team's chemistry. offensively, he's a black hole because he averages 3+ turnovers per game, which is significantly higher than any other center i can think of. career wise, he has a 6:1 ratio of points to turnovers.

6 games into the season, and he has a 4.8:1 ratio.

brook lopez for his career: 8.95:1
KG: 8.3
tim duncan: 8.04
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#176 » by GlennQuagmire » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:23 pm

:lol: at everything CablexDeadpool posted.

Just plain turrible. Turrible! ( Charles Barkley Voice)
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#177 » by hayden » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:25 pm

Vides990 wrote:
CablexDeadpool wrote:Did this title just say "Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets."

LOL

He just got yelled at for screwing up. Stop being so soft and sensationalist.

Seriously, the Lin Fan boys are crazy. First they can't grasp him coming off the bench is a better role for him vs starting, and now when he screws up and is informed of it, hes getting bullied. The excuses never end.


trolls alert.. please don't feed these gals. thanks.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#178 » by TaylorMonkey » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:26 pm

Say what you will, but that was one clever screen from Nash.

Pushed Beverly forward as a screen on Lin, further forward where he could be screened by Gasol, then switched to screen Lin himself.

Takes two guys out with one move, wins the game, destroys Rockets' chemistry.

Epic.
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Post#179 » by derekc » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:27 pm

So this is what it feels like.. Feels pretty good, man.
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Re: Jeremy Lin getting bullied on the Rockets 

Post#180 » by microfib4thewin » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:28 pm

SmoothKing32 wrote:Only read the first couple posts, but this happens on every level of basketball, from high school to the pro level. Lin needed to be in position to go over the top of the screen when defending the last play, and instead he allowed himself to get sealed off and allowed the game winner. Rockets stars are upset with him, and rightfully so. Lin looks like he's not going to last long in Houston, and that's probably the right move for both parties. Lin wants to be a starter and a scorer, and he's just not a main piece on a team with Harden and Howard. I still have Houston coming out of the West. It would be crazy if they actually got some viable pieces for Lin.


Sealed off as in getting bearhugged by Nash? Last I checked you can't set your screen by wrapping your arm around someone.

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