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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#61 » by moofs » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:49 pm

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I never really had confidence in McHale (primarily because I don't think coaches can do much but screw up, and wasn't aware of him being a massive ... screwer-upper), but until the last two games, I didn't have any opposition to him. He needs to stop doing stupid things. Immediately.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#62 » by BaYBaller » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:15 am

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hayden wrote:
The fact that people are calling it a "conspiracy theory" is quite dismissive of the issue to begin with. You can have your opinion... but you should look into respecting what others believe/see as well. It's not just happenstance that many people feel this way. Look at the general board's posts and you will see many posters have expressed similar concern over McHale + Harden's "treatment" of Lin.


Like I said, Lin gets an inordinate amount of attention due to his large fanbase. I don't really care about the opinion's of the general board and rarely post there. It has zero effect on the team.

Look, there are threads made about Harden ignoring Lin on a play or Lin being yelled... I mean come on... have any of these people ever played in a highly competitive environment? Those things happen, and you brush it off stay positive and keep working hard. I do realize that a lot of these ridiculous threads are posted by a vocal minority, but that doesn't mean you have to pay attention to it. Lin has a great attitude and is handling himself quite well in my opinion.


Okay, then I guess what Lin fans think clearly affects the team and is something you should care about?


Read the reply trail, I don't care. I only talked about it because a Lin fan pressed the issue. I originally just responded to the other points in his post.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#63 » by Dudedude88 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:18 am

Lin and Bev wasn't the reason why the rockets were losing It was Twin towers.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#64 » by cw3k » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:05 pm

Dudedude88 wrote:Lin and Bev wasn't the reason why the rockets were losing It was Twin towers.


Negative.

The Rockets loss game because of clueless coach and Harden ISO too much. A respected coach will fixed Harden's problem.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#65 » by hayden » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:15 pm

BaYBaller wrote:
hayden wrote:
BaYBaller wrote:
Like I said, Lin gets an inordinate amount of attention due to his large fanbase. I don't really care about the opinion's of the general board and rarely post there. It has zero effect on the team.

Look, there are threads made about Harden ignoring Lin on a play or Lin being yelled... I mean come on... have any of these people ever played in a highly competitive environment? Those things happen, and you brush it off stay positive and keep working hard. I do realize that a lot of these ridiculous threads are posted by a vocal minority, but that doesn't mean you have to pay attention to it. Lin has a great attitude and is handling himself quite well in my opinion.


Okay, then I guess what Lin fans think clearly affects the team and is something you should care about?


Read the reply trail, I don't care. I only talked about it because a Lin fan pressed the issue. I originally just responded to the other points in his post.


I don't need to read the reply trail, I just need to know that you are posting in an un-mistakingly pro-Lin thread, while making references to a "conspiracy theory." Your claim to nonchalance is cute, but it's pure posturing.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#66 » by BaYBaller » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:59 pm

hayden wrote:
BaYBaller wrote:
hayden wrote:
Okay, then I guess what Lin fans think clearly affects the team and is something you should care about?


Read the reply trail, I don't care. I only talked about it because a Lin fan pressed the issue. I originally just responded to the other points in his post.


I don't need to read the reply trail, I just need to know that you are posting in an un-mistakingly pro-Lin thread, while making references to a "conspiracy theory." Your claim to nonchalance is cute, but it's pure posturing.


If you don't even know the context in which my reply pertains to then why reply at all? I don't know what posturing you think I'm doing. 99% of my posts are here in the Rockets forum.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#67 » by moofs » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:10 pm

BayBaller wrote:And I'm not really going to entertain all your conspiracy theories on McHale's love for Bev/hate for Lin or whatever. You're clearly a huge Lin fan that's cool but I think you're just focusing way too much on the media's perception of Lin, over scrutinizing every single move the coaches do in regards to Lin, etc. Where is the thread about Parsons getting subbed out in the 2nd half instead of TJones, Asik not getting his minutes, etc. etc. I'm much much more concerned about how well McHale will be able to handle the egos of Harden/Howard in the long run than any concerns about Lin being on a "short leash."


hayden wrote:The fact that people are calling it a "conspiracy theory" is quite dismissive of the issue to begin with. You can have your opinion... but you should look into respecting what others believe/see as well. It's not just happenstance that many people feel this way. Look at the general board's posts and you will see many posters have expressed similar concern over McHale + Harden's "treatment" of Lin.


BaYBaller wrote:Like I said, Lin gets an inordinate amount of attention due to his large fanbase. I don't really care about the opinion's of the general board and rarely post there. It has zero effect on the team.

Look, there are threads made about Harden ignoring Lin on a play or Lin being yelled... I mean come on... have any of these people ever played in a highly competitive environment? Those things happen, and you brush it off stay positive and keep working hard. I do realize that a lot of these ridiculous threads are posted by a vocal minority, but that doesn't mean you have to pay attention to it. Lin has a great attitude and is handling himself quite well in my opinion.


hayden wrote:I don't need to read the reply trail, I just need to know that you are posting in an un-mistakingly pro-Lin thread, while making references to a "conspiracy theory." Your claim to nonchalance is cute, but it's pure posturing.


Hayden, note that the "conspiracy theory" that is being referenced could perhaps better be phrased as "allegations that McHale is trying to submarine Jeremy Lin's career", then note that he's dismissing that notion, perhaps on the basis of silly things like "his minutes are up from last year" or "his usage is also up from last year", then note that he was never anti-Lin, but rather anti-Lin-fanbase's-media-perception.

Can we please lock this thread and replace it with one that just makes fun of Harden's defense using photoshopped gifs before I accidentally start scrubbing my face with a cheese grater?
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#68 » by adrenaLINe » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:56 pm

moofs wrote:
BayBaller wrote:And I'm not really going to entertain all your conspiracy theories on McHale's love for Bev/hate for Lin or whatever. You're clearly a huge Lin fan that's cool but I think you're just focusing way too much on the media's perception of Lin, over scrutinizing every single move the coaches do in regards to Lin, etc. Where is the thread about Parsons getting subbed out in the 2nd half instead of TJones, Asik not getting his minutes, etc. etc. I'm much much more concerned about how well McHale will be able to handle the egos of Harden/Howard in the long run than any concerns about Lin being on a "short leash."


hayden wrote:The fact that people are calling it a "conspiracy theory" is quite dismissive of the issue to begin with. You can have your opinion... but you should look into respecting what others believe/see as well. It's not just happenstance that many people feel this way. Look at the general board's posts and you will see many posters have expressed similar concern over McHale + Harden's "treatment" of Lin.


BaYBaller wrote:Like I said, Lin gets an inordinate amount of attention due to his large fanbase. I don't really care about the opinion's of the general board and rarely post there. It has zero effect on the team.

Look, there are threads made about Harden ignoring Lin on a play or Lin being yelled... I mean come on... have any of these people ever played in a highly competitive environment? Those things happen, and you brush it off stay positive and keep working hard. I do realize that a lot of these ridiculous threads are posted by a vocal minority, but that doesn't mean you have to pay attention to it. Lin has a great attitude and is handling himself quite well in my opinion.


hayden wrote:I don't need to read the reply trail, I just need to know that you are posting in an un-mistakingly pro-Lin thread, while making references to a "conspiracy theory." Your claim to nonchalance is cute, but it's pure posturing.


Hayden, note that the "conspiracy theory" that is being referenced could perhaps better be phrased as "allegations that McHale is trying to submarine Jeremy Lin's career", then note that he's dismissing that notion, perhaps on the basis of silly things like "his minutes are up from last year" or "his usage is also up from last year", then note that he was never anti-Lin, but rather anti-Lin-fanbase's-media-perception.

Can we please lock this thread and replace it with one that just makes fun of Harden's defense using photoshopped gifs before I accidentally start scrubbing my face with a cheese grater?



if your talking about from the fanbase perspective...the general perception around the league is LIN got outplayed and demoted...and is on the bench where he belongs...

the simple fact that Lins minutes are up, and he is thriving, dosent change the fact... how it was handled...
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Post#69 » by moofs » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:57 pm

What.
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Re: 4-1 record with Lin starting. 0-2 with Bev starting. 

Post#70 » by MKL » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:26 pm

Advanced Stats. Beverley slowing rising back to the mean. Jeremy just working, his production level is near all-star levels. Avery Bradley destroyed his own efficiency and win production at Houston, now has a negative win score. Kyrie is a chucker, bad offensive and defensive ratings.

Take note of Rubio and Wall. Guys that are suppose to be NBA top 6 to 10 PGs


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Player              MP  PER  TS% eFG% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg  OWS DWS   WS  WS/48
Patrick Beverley   254 13.0 .547 .514  8.2 11.8  1.7  1.4 13.5 15.2  114  107  0.4 0.2  0.6   .114
Avery Bradley      356 10.7 .465 .441  7.0  7.5  2.7  0.4 15.1 24.8   87  105 -0.4 0.3 -0.1 -0.014
Kyrie Irving       394 17.6 .490 .442  6.3 39.8  1.2  0.6 14.0 31.5   99  107  0.3 0.2  0.5   .062
Jeremy Lin         395 19.6 .665 .612  4.3 26.0  2.0  1.1 20.1 21.9  118  107  1.2 0.3  1.5   .178
Ricky Rubio        390 14.7 .457 .383  7.8 38.0  4.2  0.4 26.7 15.7   98   97  0.1 0.7  0.9   .105
John Wall          372 17.3 .460 .396  6.8 42.8  2.4  0.9 14.4 24.0  102  105  0.4 0.3  0.7   .090
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Post#72 » by MKL » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:50 pm

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