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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#401 » by seren » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:45 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?


I don't think that is the appropriate question. The more important question for Rondo should be: Who is more likely to give you a five year max at the age of 29 after a major injury when you are a career 62 percent from free throw line, 24 percent from three point guard?

Don't get me wrong. I do want Rondo, but let's not act like he is a proven superstar.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#402 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:48 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?



It is not about Mills and Dolan it is about going to battle with Melo against the Heat. Has nothing to do with the front office. IMO


So you are saying Rondo wants to go to the place that gives him the best chance to win? There are a lot of places other the NY that debate that claim.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#403 » by NOOB77 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:50 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?



It is not about Mills and Dolan it is about going to battle with Melo against the Heat. Has nothing to do with the front office. IMO


So you are saying Rondo wants to go to the place that gives him the best chance to win? There are a lot of places other the NY that debate that claim.



Who is offering to trade for him and gives him the best chance to win? Houston maybe but Asik and Lin and late round draft picks don't really help Boston tank? It helps Boston because a treadmill team. I haven't seen any other teams attached to Rondo's name.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#404 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:54 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6356147

Phoenix has multiple 1st round picks this year, so maybe they could give up the worst one and send it over to Houston.


I wouldn't pull the trigger on that deal if i'm the knicks.

We keep shumpert which is great...however we are back having the same issues as last year. Melo is the only legit scorer and now JR is required to be the #2 guy.

1. Melo
2. JR
3. Dragic

that is not a very good offensive team.

I hate saying this but trading Bargs is not a viable option right now. We need his scoring.

Absolutely not. We get a PG and replace Tyson with someone just as good. That's a better team than this 3-6 team.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#405 » by SmoothLefty21 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:56 pm

Didn't see this posted yet...

Ainge also spoke to Baxter Holmes of the Boston Globe, expressing in even stronger terms that no teams have inquired on Rondo and that he doesn’t expect any clubs to do so.

“Rondo is coming off an injury and I think people know how much we love Rondo, so I don’t expect anybody to inquire, quite honestly,” Ainge said. “People know that Rondo is a big part of our future and that we’re not going to trade him.”

I find it hard to believe that not one team has at least kicked the tires on Rondo, but either way, he seems to be unavailable. In Ainge’s words: “He’s going nowhere.”
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#406 » by Fat Kat » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:57 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:Didn't see this posted yet...

Ainge also spoke to Baxter Holmes of the Boston Globe, expressing in even stronger terms that no teams have inquired on Rondo and that he doesn’t expect any clubs to do so.

“Rondo is coming off an injury and I think people know how much we love Rondo, so I don’t expect anybody to inquire, quite honestly,” Ainge said. “People know that Rondo is a big part of our future and that we’re not going to trade him.”

I find it hard to believe that not one team has at least kicked the tires on Rondo, but either way, he seems to be unavailable. In Ainge’s words: “He’s going nowhere.”


But..but...but...

It was on Twitter.

Ainge must be lying.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#407 » by sol537 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:58 pm

Ainge lies through his teeth. All good GM's do.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#408 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:59 pm

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It is not about Mills and Dolan it is about going to battle with Melo against the Heat. Has nothing to do with the front office. IMO


So you are saying Rondo wants to go to the place that gives him the best chance to win? There are a lot of places other the NY that debate that claim.



Who is offering to trade for him and gives him the best chance to win? Houston maybe but Asik and Lin and late round draft picks don't really help Boston tank? It helps Boston because a treadmill team. I haven't seen any other teams attached to Rondo's name.


Because dude is hurt and coming off a major injury. I really doubt the Celtics, Rondo or any contending teams are looking at deals right now. It just doesnt make sense for any normal team.

The Knicks are interested only because they are extremely desperate. Except they don't even have enough to pay 25cents to the dollar for Rondo. The cupboard is bare and the Celtics know the same offer they can get from the Knicks today is no worse then the offer they will get from the Knicks in Feb '15 so its pointless for them to make a deal right now.

So even if Rondo wants to come to NY, it ain't happening for at least a year. Even the slim chance that Rondo wants to go to NY and nowhere else, it'll be like the Melo deal and drag on and on and on until the last month or 2.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#409 » by mpharris36 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:59 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6356147

Phoenix has multiple 1st round picks this year, so maybe they could give up the worst one and send it over to Houston.


I wouldn't pull the trigger on that deal if i'm the knicks.

We keep shumpert which is great...however we are back having the same issues as last year. Melo is the only legit scorer and now JR is required to be the #2 guy.

1. Melo
2. JR
3. Dragic

that is not a very good offensive team.

I hate saying this but trading Bargs is not a viable option right now. We need his scoring.

Absolutely not. We get a PG and replace Tyson with someone just as good. That's a better team than this 3-6 team.


correct, but that is the Knicks without Tyson Chandler. Let's be real, we wouldn't be 3-6 if Tyson was in there playing like he was during the first 3+ games.

Tyson at his best is better than Asik

Dragic is better than Felton but again we would be trading another asset away in THjr and we still have Felton. Felton is just going to enjoy coming off the bench?

You can make the argument that makes us slightly better,I still would rather have Tyson then Asik.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#410 » by NOOB77 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:59 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:Didn't see this posted yet...

Ainge also spoke to Baxter Holmes of the Boston Globe, expressing in even stronger terms that no teams have inquired on Rondo and that he doesn’t expect any clubs to do so.

“Rondo is coming off an injury and I think people know how much we love Rondo, so I don’t expect anybody to inquire, quite honestly,” Ainge said. “People know that Rondo is a big part of our future and that we’re not going to trade him.”

I find it hard to believe that not one team has at least kicked the tires on Rondo, but either way, he seems to be unavailable. In Ainge’s words: “He’s going nowhere.”



What is he suppose to say? Yup we are planning on shipping Rondo out please fax in all offers? This is the stuff that came out of Denver when Melo was leaving.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#411 » by ag3 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:59 pm

Ainge said Pierce and Garnett were not getting traded either.
GMs always lie.

There are way too many Rondo rumors flying. He must be listening to offers at the very least.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#412 » by Johnny Hoops » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:00 pm

seren wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?


I don't think that is the appropriate question. The more important question for Rondo should be: Who is more likely to give you a five year max at the age of 29 after a major injury when you are a career 62 percent from free throw line, 24 percent from three point guard?

Don't get me wrong. I do want Rondo, but let's not act like he is a proven superstar.


Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#413 » by mpharris36 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:01 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
SmoothLefty21 wrote:Didn't see this posted yet...

Ainge also spoke to Baxter Holmes of the Boston Globe, expressing in even stronger terms that no teams have inquired on Rondo and that he doesn’t expect any clubs to do so.

“Rondo is coming off an injury and I think people know how much we love Rondo, so I don’t expect anybody to inquire, quite honestly,” Ainge said. “People know that Rondo is a big part of our future and that we’re not going to trade him.”

I find it hard to believe that not one team has at least kicked the tires on Rondo, but either way, he seems to be unavailable. In Ainge’s words: “He’s going nowhere.”


But..but...but...

It was on Twitter.

Ainge must be lying.


I don't proclaim to be an insider and know whether the celtics will trade him or not.

But what GM goes to the public and actually stats that his best player is on the trading block? It makes no sense to, because it destroys all ties to him and his current organization so you are then forced to trade him and might now have to settle for a worse deal.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#414 » by Rasho Brezec » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:01 pm

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I wouldn't pull the trigger on that deal if i'm the knicks.

We keep shumpert which is great...however we are back having the same issues as last year. Melo is the only legit scorer and now JR is required to be the #2 guy.

1. Melo
2. JR
3. Dragic

that is not a very good offensive team.

I hate saying this but trading Bargs is not a viable option right now. We need his scoring.

Absolutely not. We get a PG and replace Tyson with someone just as good. That's a better team than this 3-6 team.


correct, but that is the Knicks without Tyson Chandler. Let's be real, we wouldn't be 3-6 if Tyson was in there playing like he was during the first 3+ games.

Tyson at his best is better than Asik

Dragic is better than Felton but again we would be trading another asset away in THjr and we still have Felton. Felton is just going to enjoy coming off the bench?

You can make the argument that makes us slightly better,I still would rather have Tyson then Asik.

Tyson is older and injury prone. It's better to trade him now while he still has some value. Felton can still be traded.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#415 » by GONYK » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:02 pm

Johnny Hoops wrote:
seren wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?


I don't think that is the appropriate question. The more important question for Rondo should be: Who is more likely to give you a five year max at the age of 29 after a major injury when you are a career 62 percent from free throw line, 24 percent from three point guard?

Don't get me wrong. I do want Rondo, but let's not act like he is a proven superstar.


Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar


There is that word again :lol:
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#416 » by Fat Kat » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:05 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
SmoothLefty21 wrote:Didn't see this posted yet...



But..but...but...

It was on Twitter.

Ainge must be lying.


I don't proclaim to be an insider and know whether the celtics will trade him or not.

But what GM goes to the public and actually stats that his best player is on the trading block? It makes no sense to, because it destroys all ties to him and his current organization so you are then forced to trade him and might now have to settle for a worse deal.


How did the rumors start?
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#417 » by SmoothLefty21 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:09 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:But what GM goes to the public and actually stats that his best player is on the trading block? It makes no sense to, because it destroys all ties to him and his current organization so you are then forced to trade him and might now have to settle for a worse deal.


We apparently like to use that strategy when it comes to Shump. :lol:

Some team out there is going to buy so damn low on Shump and get an absolute steal.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#418 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:11 pm

seren wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:And if you are Rondo, who do you trust more to build a contending team? Ainge who already built a championship team or Mills/Dolan who helped make the Knicks the laughing stock of the league and are off to a good start once again?


I don't think that is the appropriate question. The more important question for Rondo should be: Who is more likely to give you a five year max at the age of 29 after a major injury when you are a career 62 percent from free throw line, 24 percent from three point guard?

Don't get me wrong. I do want Rondo, but let's not act like he is a proven superstar.


Well, that depends if Rondo is healthy or not. A healthy Rondo may get the max from a number of teams. John Wall just got the max. Eric Gordon got a huge deal. Teams still hand out plenty of bad contracts.

A not fully healthy Rondo may only get the max from the Knicks and that could spell trouble again.

Either way, the Celtics are the sellers and have awhile until they are forced to make a decision. The Knicks are the desperate broke team. It'll be awhile until the Knicks can make a move and they may end up with damaged goods if they get a deal thats too good to be true.
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#419 » by mpharris36 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:19 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:But what GM goes to the public and actually stats that his best player is on the trading block? It makes no sense to, because it destroys all ties to him and his current organization so you are then forced to trade him and might now have to settle for a worse deal.


We apparently like to use that strategy when it comes to Shump. :lol:

Some team out there is going to buy so damn low on Shump and get an absolute steal.


Frank Isola isn't a legit souce, no one talks to him in the knicks organization. Dolan doesn't like him
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Re: Knicks targeting Rondo 

Post#420 » by mpharris36 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:20 pm

Fat Kat wrote:
How did the rumors start?


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