Time to be honest about Iman Shumpert

[Knicksfan20]

He's a player who rides high on the emotions of the game. He embodies that NY attitude. Problem with that is, he feels betrayed by this team, this coach, this ownership...he looks unwanted and disinterested. He's not the same...it's time to part ways.

This is exactly it. You dont see Iman smiling anymore. You dont see that Iman personality on the court. And that sucks. He was one of the only bright spots on the team. ANd he is going to get dealt for peanuts and some other team is going to get themself a stud on a discount.

All because our team is run by an idiot.

[three2theD]

He's a player who rides high on the emotions of the game. He embodies that NY attitude. Problem with that is, he feels betrayed by this team, this coach, this ownership...he looks unwanted and disinterested. He's not the same...it's time to part ways.

This is exactly it. You dont see Iman smiling anymore. You dont see that Iman personality on the court. And that sucks. He was one of the only bright spots on the team. ANd he is going to get dealt for peanuts and some other team is going to get themself a stud on a discount.

All because our team is run by an idiot.

Why does he feel betrayed? Because his name is coming up in trade rumors? Please, this is a business, where much better players than Shumpert had to deal with trade rumors or been traded. If he feels betrayed that's his problem. The bottom line is he's not a stud. If he was a stud he would have shown some improvement scince his rookie year, which he hasn't. Trade him and give Hardaway a shot.

[Knicks_Fan2]

He's a player who rides high on the emotions of the game. He embodies that NY attitude. Problem with that is, he feels betrayed by this team, this coach, this ownership...he looks unwanted and disinterested. He's not the same...it's time to part ways.

This is exactly it. You dont see Iman smiling anymore. You dont see that Iman personality on the court. And that sucks. He was one of the only bright spots on the team. ANd he is going to get dealt for peanuts and some other team is going to get themself a stud on a discount.

All because our team is run by an idiot.

Yes blame everyone but the player

[AmazingJason]

The team's culture is sh*t.

It's good if you're Melo, JR or Felton because you have the power and can do whatever.

It's good if you're Bargnani because you can just show up, collect your paycheck, go home and f*ck a supermodel.

It's not good for winning basketball games as a team.

[siar617]

I say bench Udrih and start Shumpert at PG.

Kid's got no handles, and you want him to be the starting PG?

I agree with KnicksScholar24. Shump probably plays better if we give him more confidence and the pg position.
All of our pg's have been trash so far so its not like it would hurt us. Jr can help bring the ball up and we can then bring MWP into the starting line up.

Shump can hit an open jumper and run P&R. His man d on opposing pgs will help AB an initial d period. I believe he can take smaller guards to the whole without missing as much.

[KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127]

The team's culture is sh*t.

It's good if you're Melo, JR or Felton because you have the power and can do whatever.

It's good if you're Bargnani because you can just show up, collect your paycheck, go home and f*ck a supermodel.

It's not good for winning basketball games as a team.

I disagree with the Bargnani statement he is limited but he is not the reason were losing games. He's played better defense than 95% of the roster. And that is the saddest statement about the Knicks defense.

[KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127]

The team's culture is sh*t.

It's good if you're Melo, JR or Felton because you have the power and can do whatever.

It's good if you're Bargnani because you can just show up, collect your paycheck, go home and f*ck a supermodel.

It's not good for winning basketball games as a team.

I disagree with the Bargnani statement he is limited but he is not the reason were losing games. He's played better defense than 95% of the roster. And that is the saddest statement about the Knicks defense.

[TheGarden]

We win games- we did it as a team
We lose games- everyone is for self, iso ball, trade Melo

give me a break

[blackstar]

I said his ceiling was Larry Hughes and boy were people pissed.

[br7knicks]

you know what this board needs, more threads about:

- dolan being bad
- woodson needing to be fired
- melo is not a team leader
- chris smith has an IQ below 70, which is 5 points lower than his brothers
- shumpert being overrated, yet underrated.

[Thorn]

Adios Shump. Time to package you with Stat and peace NYC.

I dumped him in my fantasy league... and I hold on to Knicks.

He is not a Knick, it is time for him to be moved along. I loved his heart the other night when he defended a fellow Knick but he can't play like this and get a pass.

[Manhattan Project]

We needed to see Iman take that next step forward and he clearly hasn't thus far. Iman doesn't even look interested in the game anymore since the rumors started floating about him, he clearly has let it effect his game. His stroke on his shot while looking better hasn't produced better percentages yet. I understand that this offense isn't conducive to his game, but I was expecting a better season than this thus far.

[Nostrand Ave]

We needed to see Iman take that next step forward and he clearly hasn't thus far. Iman doesn't even look interested in the game anymore since the rumors started floating about him, he clearly has let it effect his game. His stroke on his shot while looking better hasn't produced better percentages yet. I understand that this offense isn't conducive to his game, but I was expecting a better season than this thus far.

If Shump cant play through the trade rumors; then, I dont want him on the roster.

[Knicksfan20]

We needed to see Iman take that next step forward and he clearly hasn't thus far. Iman doesn't even look interested in the game anymore since the rumors started floating about him, he clearly has let it effect his game. His stroke on his shot while looking better hasn't produced better percentages yet. I understand that this offense isn't conducive to his game, but I was expecting a better season than this thus far.

How do you play hard for a team that doesn't want you? A team that has now tried to trade you at least 3-4 different times this season. A team that has also shown interest in trading you in the past for guys like Nash, Dudley, Reddick... etc.

Iman has nothing left for the Knicks. He played his heart our for this team whenever he could. Now he just seems defeated. I feel bad for the dude because he loves it here and he loves this team. Yet fans are giving him a raw deal not putting things into perspective. Cant just expect a guy to play to his fullest capabilities when he isn't put in a situation to succeed.

Not only is he not in a position to succeed mentally, but how the **** is he even supposed to take the next step with the roster that is on this team? When there are a bunch of other players that need to get their shots off . Shumperts Job is to play defense on this team and stand in the corners. Not exactly the best recipe for him to take the next step offensively.

[Rasho Brezec]

We're losing games anyways, so just put him at the PG spot for one game and let him do whatever he wants like JR and Melo. Maybe he does something, maybe he doesn't. I don't see any other way of bringing his confidence back.

[Meat]

We needed to see Iman take that next step forward and he clearly hasn't thus far. Iman doesn't even look interested in the game anymore since the rumors started floating about him, he clearly has let it effect his game. His stroke on his shot while looking better hasn't produced better percentages yet. I understand that this offense isn't conducive to his game, but I was expecting a better season than this thus far.

How do you play hard for a team that doesn't want you? A team that has now tried to trade you at least 3-4 different times this season. A team that has also shown interest in trading you in the past for guys like Nash, Dudley, Reddick... etc.

Iman has nothing left for the Knicks. He played his heart our for this team whenever he could. Now he just seems defeated. I feel bad for the dude because he loves it here and he loves this team. Yet fans are giving him a raw deal not putting things into perspective. Cant just expect a guy to play to his fullest capabilities when he isn't put in a situation to succeed.

Not only is he not in a position to succeed mentally, but how the **** is he even supposed to take the next step with the roster that is on this team? When there are a bunch of other players that need to get their shots off . Shumperts Job is to play defense on this team and stand in the corners. Not exactly the best recipe for him to take the next step offensively.

i never saw the iman "beginnings" did he have a dad growing up? because he's acting like he has no idea how to be a man, you get up and do you **** job. you don't get to piss and moan like a bitch on her period when you get paid millions of dollars, you do your **** job.

[Knicksfan20]

Easy to say when your not in the situatin.

Do you have a job? Imagine if you were getting fired from your job and you were giving a 2 week notice. Are you going to bust your ass during that 2 week notice for a company that no longer wants you?


Its not like Iman isnt playing hard. He is just flustered. The dude is out there competing. But mentally he is shaken because he loves the situation he is in, being on the team he was drafted by... And he isnt being put in a situation to succeed.

I dont fault him for it.

[Dunk93]

not sure if it was mentioned in this thread or not but i heard on the fan this morning that woodson started cursing and hollering at the media when asked about why he doesn't like iman shumpert then a knicks pr guy cancelled the interview.

[Thugger HBC]

Imo, i believe Shumpert is purposely breaking his toys, like a child resenting his parents.

His toys is his overall skills, and his parents are the team that drafted him.

Shumpert is extremely happy to have been drafted and he holds a special feeling to the Knicks who drafted him.

That feeling would have been any team who did so, but for the first time in his career, he knows the team is not refusing trades as they've done in the past, but listening and shopping him instead, even to the tune of rumors the owner doesnt want him, and not truly getting the support even from his teammates.

I cant imagine how that feels, but as another poster had said previous we've seen this unfold before, most recently with Gallo and Wilson.

There is no regression imo.....just a young dude who feelings are hurt by the team who drafted him.

[Fat Kat]

We needed to see Iman take that next step forward and he clearly hasn't thus far. Iman doesn't even look interested in the game anymore since the rumors started floating about him, he clearly has let it effect his game. His stroke on his shot while looking better hasn't produced better percentages yet. I understand that this offense isn't conducive to his game, but I was expecting a better season than this thus far.

How do you play hard for a team that doesn't want you? A team that has now tried to trade you at least 3-4 different times this season. A team that has also shown interest in trading you in the past for guys like Nash, Dudley, Reddick... etc.

Iman has nothing left for the Knicks. He played his heart our for this team whenever he could. Now he just seems defeated. I feel bad for the dude because he loves it here and he loves this team. Yet fans are giving him a raw deal not putting things into perspective. Cant just expect a guy to play to his fullest capabilities when he isn't put in a situation to succeed.

Not only is he not in a position to succeed mentally, but how the **** is he even supposed to take the next step with the roster that is on this team? When there are a bunch of other players that need to get their shots off . Shumperts Job is to play defense on this team and stand in the corners. Not exactly the best recipe for him to take the next step offensively.

i never saw the iman "beginnings" did he have a dad growing up? because he's acting like he has no idea how to be a man, you get up and do you **** job. you don't get to piss and moan like a bitch on her period when you get paid millions of dollars, you do your **** job.

+1. Played sports my entire life. I've never had a cuddley coach and never needed one. I think it's a symptom of this generation and their "loser tropy" mentality. Just pathetic.

not sure if it was mentioned in this thread or not but i heard on the fan this morning that woodson started cursing and hollering at the media when asked about why he doesn't like iman shumpert then a knicks pr guy cancelled the interview.

Yep. He called it bullchit and it probably is. He has to realize that with the losses, the vultures will make his life a living hell. Woody has to win or GTFO. It's the NY way.