MVP discussion thread

Hero · Post #801 » by **Hero** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:09 pm

For Paul George to be first he needs to have a bigger advantage in wins than just 2. If the Pacers can open up a noticable lead over the rest of the league then Paul George would be the favorite.

Greyhound · Post #802 » by **Greyhound** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 10:43 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:The Heat average point differential in their wins is rather large while Lebron is still playing in blowout situations...

This is a flat out lie.

James has sat out about four entire 4th quarters (through 16 games) and exited early in a number of others.

Colbinii · Post #803 » by **Colbinii** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:29 pm

Chalky White wrote:He should be. The East is historically weak right now.

And the point of this post is?

He is doing what he should be doing, dominating.

xStanton27 · Post #804 » by **xStanton27** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:38 pm

boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

because Lebron > George

lol

SlowPaced · Post #805 » by **SlowPaced** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:42 pm

boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

LeBron is having the most efficient offensive season of all time.

Post #806 » by **kingkirk** » Sun Dec 1, 2013 11:44 pm

MaliBrah wrote:how does the east being weak as hell , easy schedule , and a stacked team affect lebron but not george? lol

Yeah, seems a little silly.

boateng · Post #807 » by **boateng** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 12:24 am

xStanton27 wrote:
boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

because Lebron > George

lol

most valuable player not best player

boateng · Post #808 » by **boateng** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 12:25 am

KingCuban wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:how does the east being weak as hell , easy schedule , and a stacked team affect lebron but not george? lol

Yeah, seems a little silly.

lebron plays with better players and the pacers have made a rapid jump....from 3 seed to number 1 seed overall in the nba

xStanton27 · Post #809 » by **xStanton27** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 12:27 am

boateng wrote:
xStanton27 wrote:
boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

because Lebron > George

lol

most valuable player not best player

Being the best tends to lead to being the most valuable lol

Post #810 » by **kingkirk** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 12:29 am

boateng wrote:
KingCuban wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:how does the east being weak as hell , easy schedule , and a stacked team affect lebron but not george? lol

Yeah, seems a little silly.

lebron plays with better players and the pacers have made a rapid jump....from 3 seed to number 1 seed overall in the nba

What's your point?

If we're going to factor in th terrible East when discussing Lebron then obviously we should do the same with the Pacers and George.

It's inconsistent if you don't.

Post #811 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 12:33 am

boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

Everyone agrees he was the best player last year.
Nobody thinks anyone else has risen to that level this year, and nobody really thinks he's fallen, so people think he's the best player around still.

Given that, they ask themselves if they really see anything that warrants doubting his MVP-ness.

With a record like the Heat currently have, and an average margin of victory, there's basically nothing that would turn most of us against LeBron at this point. However, if Indy truly keep their winning pace up and goes 77-5, and everything else stays along its same pace, I think George probably wins the MVP.

Of course...there's no way in hell Indy is going to win 77 games, which is why people refuse so early in the year to side with a guy like George over a guy like LeBron based on team performance.

Colbinii · Post #812 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 1:36 am

boateng wrote:
xStanton27 wrote:
boateng wrote:i dont understand why everybody is having lebron first

the heat are stacked with the best bench in the league, plus the east is weak as hell

i know the same applies for paul geroge but the pacers have the best record and they have made a rapid jump from where they were last season.

because Lebron > George

lol

most valuable player not best player

LeBron is the most valuable player in the league, which is how a lot of people view the award.

There isn't a player who is more valuable in terms of basketball abilities and talent than LeBron.

Rasho_libre · Post #813 » by **Rasho_libre** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 1:48 am

Even his bad night his numbers are always MVP like.

makaveli_99 · Post #814 » by **makaveli_99** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:00 am

solid night by KD so far.. 32pts,9rbs,8assists,4stls,4blocks 70% shooting. Yay Fantasy!!

NaturalThunder · Post #815 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:06 am

Solid? I think 32-10-10-4-4 is better than just solid.

makaveli_99 · Post #816 » by **makaveli_99** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:17 am

NaturalThunder wrote:Solid? I think 32-10-10-4-4 is better than just solid.

sorry... unbelievably amazing night that he will never replicate again this year! happy? lol

NaturalThunder · Post #817 » by **NaturalThunder** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:23 am

makaveli_99 wrote:
NaturalThunder wrote:Solid? I think 32-10-10-4-4 is better than just solid.

sorry... unbelievably amazing night that he will never replicate again this year! happy? lol

Hah....yeah. I was being sarcastic.

He may not replicate that again but it's not like these 30-7-7 games are a fluke for him now.

Other than tonight he's had games of: (PTS-REB-AST)

37-8-7
33-13-6
33-6-10
38-8-6
28-6-8

fallacy · Post #818 » by **fallacy** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:31 am

I guess I'll put these here too

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/407333023580164096[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/407333243478749184[/tweet]

HeartSouloma · Post #819 » by **HeartSouloma** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:35 am

fallacy wrote:I guess I'll put these here too

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/407333023580164096[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/407333243478749184[/tweet]

KD for MVP....

rcontador · Post #820 » by **rcontador** » Mon Dec 2, 2013 2:37 am

I do think tonight was the most impressive statline I've ever seen from him. Maybe his highest level of play, too, he looked really really good for the last 15 minutes (which is all that I saw).

Maybe more important, the whole OKC team is looking good (and deep!). I think that's gonna be the most important factor in KD's MVP candidacy. If the Thunder can somehow capture the best record in the league -- or even get close to the Heat/Pacers -- then the weakness of the East and voter fatigue will give Durant a very good shot at the award.