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Re: Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread 

Post#1401 » by Dr Manute » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:06 pm

Patience. Let’s enjoy our team, evaluate the keepers and wait for a desperate team to come calling. The future is bright in Phoenix. :D
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Re: Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread 

Post#1402 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:21 pm

DRK wrote:Maybe something like this?

CHI IN:
Okafor
Perkins
Suns 2014 1st
Minn 2014 First (From Suns)
Alex Len

PHX IN:
Ibaka
PJ3
OKC 1st
Thabeet

OKC IN:
Boozer
Noah

Plumlee/Thabeet
Ibaka/Markieff/PJ3
Tucker/Marcus
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Bledsoe/Smith

We now have a huge athletic frontcourt, with shot blocking presences at both PF and C. Ibaka can hit the midrange jumper with ease, and has 3 point range. Also he can run the pick and roll. Surrounding them with shooters, and still with a whole bunch of capspace, we would be contending very soon IMO.

If for some reasons a trade MUST be made, I'd certainly entertain this one. I'm not sure OKC pulls the trigger though. Noah is 28, which is by no means old, but Ibaka only turned 24 a few months ago and OKC sees him as a part of their core for the long term along with KD and Westbrook.
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Post#1403 » by DirtyDez » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:07 pm

Barkley_34 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Nuggets have a much better offer for Love than the suns.
- Faried, New York pick 2014, Galinari, Nuggets pick 2014...

That doesn't drop Wolves down much at all and fixes their need for a SF..
Pekovic, Faried, Galinari, Martin, Rubio....


I am 100% with you. Nuggets have a much better offer, However I think the trade would not only the best offer. I think the best scenario for Love a team played for him offensively (and i think he wants it, thats amazing he play with bled and dragig). And i look our time in this position.

to have more chance of success in a trade for him, The best shot is the deadline. I think NYK can get worse ... I doubt the denver abdicate the top7 pick


You're forgetting that Love holds power regarding trades whether or not he agrees to an extensión. It's about who has the most pieces after trading for him leaving enough around him to win a championship. That would be us if our competition is Denver IMO.
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Re: Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread 

Post#1404 » by Barkley_34 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:04 am

Frank Lee wrote:We should refer to him as Chad Fiord.... because there is a chasm between his thoughts and what truly is happening here.

I will welcome a trade outlined by Carey with his 'keepers'. I have surprisingly grown fond of the group of kids who are playing their nuts off, but realize to get someone like Love, some quality talent has to be exchanged. Nobody is going to give up their star player just for mid picks, no matter how strong this draft is. And I doubt we swap out our 'potential stars in the making'.

Minny does not have to do anything till the off season with Love. If they fail this yr, they get their own lotto pick. If they make the playoffs and get bounced early (likely) then they can regroup and decide on draft day / when the lotto balls fall. Thing is, there is no more Kahn there, and I would think Adelman has significant input to assure his tenure. Its all up to them, unless of course, Love says TRADE ME FOR GAWD SAKES.

Whatever happens, draft day is going to be like Christmas to us who have endured the ghost from the draft-mas past.



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Post#1405 » by Cutter » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:10 am

McD for MVP wrote:To be fair, I think the plan was to tank.

But trading Dragic right now? Ridiculous. Most likely to go my ass. Our backcourt is amazing.

How do you tank?
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Post#1406 » by Marz11 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:10 am

Dr Manute wrote:Patience. Let’s enjoy our team, evaluate the keepers and wait for a desperate team to come calling. The future is bright in Phoenix. :D


I agree, it's the fact that the future is bright that makes it exciting to think what is next. 8-)
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Post#1407 » by King4Day » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:24 am

Regarding the Ford comment, he's right about us not expecting to compete. Not sure why he thinks we'd trade Dragic. And of course the Kings have interest. So does ever other team in need of a PG.
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Post#1408 » by Cutter » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:36 am

Suns stand pat this year and let the season play out. If however a superstar deal pans out, make a trade.

I would prefer to see the Minnesota and Wizards pick convey to next year when we would again have 4 1st's, one being the LA pick. Draft picks are more valuable than freshly drafted prospects.
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Post#1409 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:36 am

Yeah I don't think ford watches many nba games. Gorans obviously not untouchable if the right star was coming back but the kings wouldn't be a good trade partner.


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Post#1410 » by Ryu » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:51 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yeah I don't think ford watches many nba games. Gorans obviously not untouchable if the right star was coming back but the kings wouldn't be a good trade partner.


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Goran should be untouchable based on his play and how good he looks with Bledsoe so far. Top 3 backcourt easily.
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Post#1411 » by Frank Lee » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:06 am

Ryu wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yeah I don't think ford watches many nba games. Gorans obviously not untouchable if the right star was coming back but the kings wouldn't be a good trade partner.


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Goran should be untouchable based on his play and how good he looks with Bledsoe so far. Top 3 backcourt easily.


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Post#1412 » by BullsFTW » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:24 am

I really like what the Suns have been doing this year. To me, it's really good for the league. I've heard about the Deng rumors of him going to Phoenix for Okafor and a future 1st. To be quite honest, if we won't re-sign Deng, I'd like to see him get traded to the Suns. He's a true professional, and will help your team in the playoffs.
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Post#1413 » by NapoleonII » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:03 am

Deng seems like a big addition, but is he?

It would take time away from Marcus, who's been playing as well as we could hope as of late, has create chemistry with the squad (especially with his brother) and overall seems like a better fit with his 3 ball.
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Post#1414 » by thamadkant » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:10 am

Chad Ford answers a random fan's query about Suns, he mentions Kings interested in Dragic... makes rumor mills around the net.

The way Dragic is playing, I bet half the league are interested.

Unless Kings are trading Cousins for a package of Dragic and filler, I dont think they have enough nor does it make sense.

Mclemore and their 2014 pick is enticing, but I'd wait until february deadline to gauge where the Kings are.
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Post#1415 » by Safety Pickle » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:29 am

1UPZ wrote:Chad Ford answers a random fan's query about Suns, he mentions Kings interested in Dragic... makes rumor mills around the net.

The way Dragic is playing, I bet half the league are interested.

Unless Kings are trading Cousins for a package of Dragic and filler, I dont think they have enough nor does it make sense.

Mclemore and their 2014 pick is enticing, but I'd wait until february deadline to gauge where the Kings are.


There is zero chance the Kings make either of those trades
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Post#1416 » by thamadkant » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:32 am

And I know that... Hence it's a point that Ford's rumour has no basis but yet it spread around.
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Post#1417 » by Wannabe MEP » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:18 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Deng seems like a big addition, but is he?

It would take time away from Marcus, who's been playing as well as we could hope as of late, has create chemistry with the squad (especially with his brother) and overall seems like a better fit with his 3 ball.

I really like Deng, but this is something I've really been struggling with for any potential addition: who do you take minutes from?

Top 8 in minutes:
Dragic
Tucker
Plumlee
Frye
Bledsoe
Green
Morris
Morris

Everyone on there is uniquely filling the role they've been asked to fill almost perfectly, and/or they're a young, developing asset. Addition may be subtraction: a "talent" upgrade might come with new ego and chemistry issues.
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Post#1418 » by Maystack » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:51 pm

Los Soles wrote:
NapoleonII wrote:Deng seems like a big addition, but is he?

It would take time away from Marcus, who's been playing as well as we could hope as of late, has create chemistry with the squad (especially with his brother) and overall seems like a better fit with his 3 ball.

I really like Deng, but this is something I've really been struggling with for any potential addition: who do you take minutes from?

Top 8 in minutes:
Dragic
Tucker
Plumlee
Frye
Bledsoe
Green
Morris
Morris

Everyone on there is uniquely filling the role they've been asked to fill almost perfectly, and/or they're a young, developing asset. Addition may be subtraction: a "talent" upgrade might come with new ego and chemistry issues.

Easy, Tucker.
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Post#1419 » by McD for MVP » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:38 pm

If it ends up being a possibility, I would love Chandler Parsons on this team in 2015. Perfect fit IMO
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Post#1420 » by QuickLikeTheo » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:46 pm

1UPZ wrote:Nuggets have a much better offer for Love than the suns.
- Faried, New York pick 2014, Galinari, Nuggets pick 2014...

That doesn't drop Wolves down much at all and fixes their need for a SF..
Pekovic, Faried, Galinari, Martin, Rubio....

But would they offer that? I doubt it

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