There is a really good chance that Detroit keep the pick

No-Man · Post #1 » by **No-Man** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 7:08 pm

The NY teams and Cleveland look like they will end up as PO teams, Charlotte, Chicago and Detroit are the most likely teams to fall out of that picture right now.
Detroit roster is a mess, plus the pick is top8 protected.
The problem is being bad but, being better than Chicago/Boston/Charlotte could get you a 9th pick that you will deliver to Charlotte.
But I think is fair to say that Detroit has a really good chance to end up picking in the top8 again, when you are out of the PO being an East team you are automatically a top9 pick.
Detroit can benefit a lot from a pick in that range, even a guy with a low ceiling like Rodney Hood could fit perfectly in the Pistons, and if you are lucky... Jabari, Wiggins...
I will go for the tank at this point.

ImHeisenberg · Post #2 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 7:29 pm

Thank you for your fact-less opinion, sir!

I hate that we have to be in the bottom 8 just to keep it. If it was top 12 protected, we'd be fine. If we came away with Gary Harris out of this draft, it would be great. We won't tank hard enough to get a top 3 pick, Detroit loves their meaningless victories at the end of the season.

Post #3 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 7:32 pm

Everything seems possible when the team is at its lowest moment.

This team will have another stretch of solid play at some point this season. It may or may not be enough to get us into the playoffs given the variables presented by other teams, but the odds of it causing us to drop enough to keep our pick is pretty tough. We'd need to not only miss the playoffs but be worse than at least one or two other eastern teams that miss as well, depending on how the bottom of the West shakes out in the end.

This is without taking into account that tanking will be a thing among teams later in the year, as it always is.

whitehops · Post #4 » by **whitehops** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 7:56 pm

this team is simply too talented to finish in the bottom 8. they are playing some horrible basketball right now but things will even out.

I'm still sure they'll make the playoffs, just not as high a seed as some of us would have liked.

menten · Post #5 » by **menten** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 8:39 pm

we will get another like 8th pick like the last 5 years

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 10:12 pm

whitehops wrote:this team is simply too talented to finish in the bottom 8. they are playing some horrible basketball right now but things will even out.

I'm still sure they'll make the playoffs, just not as high a seed as some of us would have liked.

"some horrible" basketball is putting it lightly, they're playing worse than anyone else in the league. Worst 4th quarter team in the league, worst 3-point shooting team in the league, worst free throw shooting team in the league. The only thing they're above average at is offensive rebounding; which makes sense because they miss so many shots.

engelbert321 · Post #7 » by **engelbert321** » Wed Jan 8, 2014 11:41 pm

May the basketball gods have mercy on our souls. But seriously, if we lose tonight, i'll be 100% on the tank.

Clarity · Post #8 » by **Clarity** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:05 am

whitehops wrote:this team is simply too talented to finish in the bottom 8. they are playing some horrible basketball right now but things will even out.

I'm still sure they'll make the playoffs, just not as high a seed as some of us would have liked.

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DBC10 · Post #9 » by **DBC10** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 12:06 am

engelbert321 wrote:May the basketball gods have mercy on our souls. But seriously, if we lose tonight, i'll be 100% on the tank.

It's the Raptors, they've been straight balling lately ever since Gay got traded.

We'll lose this I'm sure.

Post #10 » by **theBigLip** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:23 am

we're going to lose. let the tank brigade go forth!

a top 8 pick in this draft? that could be very cool!

eldandy · Post #11 » by **eldandy** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:31 am

This organization is in dire need of a hard reset.

Dre Drummond · Post #12 » by **Dre Drummond** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:53 am

Honestly we're too good to finish 8th or worst IMO... because we are trying to win... only way we have a chance to be bottom 8 is if Joe D trades away a few assets (such as Stuckey) and we start feeding KCP, Dre, and Monroe more shots. Let Dre develop his post game for the remainder of the season.

Most likely we are in the dreaded 7th - 10th range in the east... and that's the worst spot to be... no chance to win the first round and no draft pick for us..

ComboGuardCity · Post #13 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 2:59 am

Cheeks isn't the problem. The roster is the problem.

Folks, there are 3 possible scenarios here and out tanking the true tankers is not one of them.

A. We stay put and put this same roster on the floor. We miss the playoffs, but end up 10-14. Barring a miracle, CHA gets our pick and we have a failed season.

B. We trade Monroe for pennies on the dollar and get back a guy like Ariza. We now make the playoffs 9/10 times and end up from 5-8 seed. This is a short term move that I will be pissed about.

C. We trade Josh Smith for expirings/desperate teams. We probably scrap into the playoffs BUT we're left with cash to spend next summer.

Post #14 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:05 am

At this point a Noah's Ark scenario is all that's left for us. Tank, keep Drummond and whoever we draft with the pick we'll likely wind up with. Keep the trainer and strength/conditioning coach.

Flood the rest (not literally, but you know).

Maybe keep KCP, try to execute a sign and trade with Monroe. Get whatever you can. Work the utmost to unload everyone else that's possible. Resign no-one. Fire the coach. Have the new coach bring his own people in. Let Dumars go. Have the new GM bring his own people in.

At this point I'm convinced NOTHING but a completely new culture will do for this team, and that means getting rid of basically everyone other than the essentials.

The rough thing about keeping our pick and hitting the reset button is it means losing a pretty damn good draft pick next year, though. At this point I can't help but feel like that could be a sacrifice that needs to be made. There's simply nothing to be done with a team that is so flawed from top to bottom.

/chicken little

RSCD3_ · Post #15 » by **RSCD3_** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:11 am

We cant trade smith this year or we'll go on a winning streak like the raptors.

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pistontr · Post #16 » by **pistontr** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:17 am

we are 22nd and new york and cleveland will pass us

Dre Drummond · Post #17 » by **Dre Drummond** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:22 am

We really either need to be top 6 in the east to have a chance to win a playoff series... or be bottom 6 in the NBA to ensure we keep our lotto pick... anywhere in the middle is treadmill territory.

Worst place to be in the East this year is 7-8-9-10

menten · Post #18 » by **menten** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:27 am

pistontr wrote:we are 22nd and new york and cleveland will pass us

new york will pass us but we will never be as bad as cleveland. those guys are the worst of the worst, an absolute loser franchise with now hope of ever becoming better

Dre Drummond · Post #19 » by **Dre Drummond** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:29 am

Cleveland did just land Deng, who is a pretty solid SF... and losing lockerroom cancer Andrew Bynum could be good for them too... Cleveland is playing to win and could end up fighting for the 8th seed.

Dre Drummond · Post #20 » by **Dre Drummond** » Thu Jan 9, 2014 3:31 am

Also, won't be long and Boston will be getting Rondo back... who is easily their best player.

Only Milwaukee and Orlando are clearly worse than us right now.