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Post#21 » by Buck You » Fri Jun 8, 2007 8:07 pm

Andrew34r wrote:I like both Hall and Gwynn. 8)

1. Hart
2. Hardy
3. Gwynn/Hall (platoon Hall plays 2 than Gwynn plays 1)
4. Fielder
5. Braun
6. Jenkins/Mench (platoon Jenkins plays 4 than Mench plays 1)
7. Estrada
8. Counsel
9. Pitcher

At least for now till Weeks gets back.


What advantage would a low obp, no power hitting player give us in the 3 hole?
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Post#22 » by Ayt » Fri Jun 8, 2007 8:19 pm

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Are you kidding me? One year of hitting 35 homers is a great track record? If you ask me Billy must of use roids last year, because his high was 17 the year before. He will be lucky to hit 17 this year at the rate he is going. Who are you kidding? Great success.
:lol: A career .265 hitter. Career .321 OBP Career .471 SLG%
Wow.


He had two very good seasons back to back at ages 25 and 26. If you don't think his 2005 season was impressive I don't know what to tell you. His OPS ranked 6th in all of baseball amongst SS's that year (2nd in the NL). Had he put those numbers up in CF, only 2 players in baseball had a higher number at the position (Edmunds and A. Jones).

In 2006, he had the 3rd highest OPS amongst SS's behind Guillen and Jeter. He would have ranked 3rd in CF behind Beltran and Wells.

Is he struggling this year? He is. But he showed enough in 2 seasons and over 1000 ABs to think he's slumping and probably struggling at the plate while learning a very tough position. His numbers will come around and people won't have anything to complain about just as Gwynn's numbers will continue to plummet after a hot 30 AB's to start the season.

What is Gwynn's track record? So far in the Majors he's hit .284 with a .325 OBP and a .359 SLG. Counsell's career OPS is 33 points higher than Gwynn's.

Gwynn had a great 32 AB's to start the year, hitting .407 over that time. Since then, he's put up these numbers:

46 ABs
.239 BA
.286 OBP
.261 SLG (he has 1 2B)

Last year in 77 ABs he hit:
.260
.275
.312
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Post#23 » by Ayt » Fri Jun 8, 2007 8:21 pm

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What advantage would a low obp, no power hitting player give us in the 3 hole?


I'd hit Gwynn third followed by Counsell with Damian Miller hitting 5th. Then the pitcher.

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Post#24 » by Andrew34r » Sat Jun 9, 2007 12:24 am

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What advantage would a low obp, no power hitting player give us in the 3 hole?


It was more for Hall to get his bat going because he will see good pitches batting in front of Fielder. Gwynn I would put at 7 when he is in or leadoff if Hart is off.
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Post#25 » by Buck You » Sat Jun 9, 2007 5:14 pm

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I'd hit Gwynn third followed by Counsell with Damian Miller hitting 5th. Then the pitcher.

:nod:


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Post#26 » by deep throat » Sat Jun 9, 2007 6:14 pm

The reason I like gwynn is that he is far and away the best CF we have. he is far and away the best bunter we have. He is probably the best base runner we have. He has the kind of attributes you want in a leadoff guy. That's not taking anything away from sun glasses at night. I would have him in as well.

After 78 at bats he is hitting over .300. I think he will be a .280 type hitter. I think he deserves the opportunity. No one can say how good he will be at this point, knock it off...~Cow
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Post#27 » by Ayt » Sat Jun 9, 2007 6:37 pm

deep throat wrote:The reason I like gwynn is that he is far and away the best CF we have. he is far and away the best bunter we have. He is probably the best base runner we have. He has the kind of attributes you want in a leadoff guy. That's not taking anything away from sun glasses at night. I would have him in as well.

After 78 at bats he is hitting over .300. I think he will be a .280 type hitter. I think he deserves the opportunity. No one can say how good he will be at this point, edit.


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Post#28 » by humanrefutation » Sat Jun 9, 2007 7:08 pm

1. Gwynn CF
2. Weeks 2B
3. Hardy SS
4. Fielder 1B
5. Braun 3B
6. Hall LF - (or Jenks/Mench)
7. Estrada C
8. Hart RF - (or Jenkins/Mench)
9. Pitcher

Balanced lineup from top to bottom.
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Post#29 » by trwi7 » Sat Jun 9, 2007 7:16 pm

Ayt wrote:At least I back up my opinion.


Come on Ayt. Facts aren't allowed when they show that Gwynn may never be more than a 4th outfielder. 8)
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Post#30 » by Ayt » Sat Jun 9, 2007 7:46 pm

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Come on Ayt. Facts aren't allowed when they show that Gwynn may never be more than a 4th outfielder. 8)


I'm a factinista. :nod:

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