Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

Phish Tank · Post #4101 » by **Phish Tank** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:17 pm

JR for Landry Fields ... leggo

Post #4102 » by **moocow007** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:27 pm

The Knicks best hopes is that enough clicks after this benching that Smith does well enough to make him actually somewhat tradeable. Right now, he's not. It's the lowest point of his career. Doesn't make sense to overpay to move him (and you'll have to overpay by adding incentives for any team to take him).

riter · Post #4103 » by **riter** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:33 pm

Core trade would be:

Tyson for Buck's Butller/Sanders

I would include a pick but not Shump or THJ.
if they wanted to dump Neal and Mayo instead of an expiring Butler, I would be ok with that but then we would have to dump JR to them or in another trade.

Post #4104 » by **NoLayupRule** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:43 pm

JR Smith and Bargs for Gordon

shuts down some of the 2015 speculation by adding a lot of contract however it gives us a legitimate 2nd scorer

His value, Gordon that is, is very low right now. So NO might want to save a bunch of $ and add two pieces that can possibly work for them in the process

Felton, Gordon and Shump in a small lineup works nicely
Or Gordon coming off the bench filling JR's role even
Or this might be the way to open up a trade of Shup and Amare for someone solid, now that they are both playing so well.

iHeartKNicks · Post #4105 » by **iHeartKNicks** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:48 pm

New Orleans is pushing EG hard & they're short on PF depth right now you think they would be interested in Bargain? Especially seeing how Ryan anderson is out indefinitely and he was a stretch 4:
Bargs + JR for EG + Rivers

Felton
EG
Shumpert
Melo
Chandler
Also gives us the opportunity to play Tyler & Toure a little more.

OR
JR + Felton for Taj Gibson + Teague
Get in on the Bulls "fire sale" and get somewhat of a real 4 in here.

Murray
Shumpert
Melo
Gibson
Chandler

riter · Post #4106 » by **riter** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:56 pm

iHeartKNicks wrote:New Orleans is pushing EG hard & they're short on PF depth right now you think they would be interested in Bargain? Especially seeing how Ryan anderson is out indefinitely and he was a stretch 4:
Bargs + JR for EG + Rivers

Felton
EG
Shumpert
Melo
Chandler
Also gives us the opportunity to play Tyler & Toure a little more.

Add Bynum and that's a pt guard away from a championship team or an EJ knee injury away from square one.
I can see a desperate Mill/Dolan doing this.

Post #4107 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:59 pm

jwise44 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:Sign Bynum. Trade JR and Chandler to Boston for Rondo and Wallace

Bynum/Bargnani
Amar'e/Kenyon
Melo/Wallace
Shump/THJ
Rondo/Murry

Tyler, Prigioni, MWP

Worst trade for rondo ever

Jr has negative value and if they trade rondo they're rebuilding. Why would they want chandler

They would want picks

The only way I see rondo coming is via a 3 team deal.

The knicks have a big asset in Tyson Chandler (that both OKC and Portland) would love.

OKC hasn't gotten any production out of there center position. Getting Tyson gives them a starting Lineup of Chandler, Ibaka, Durant, Thabo, and Westbrook (great mix right there)

Portland has horrible defense and even though Lopez is putting up good #'s he isn't a good team defender. Tyson helps that team so much.

Both OKC and Portland have young pieces and picks that would interest Boston.

If we were willing to take back a contract like Gerald Wallace we could probably could get something done.

Something like:

NYK Recieve:
Rondo
Wallace
Perkins

Boston Receives:
Reggie Jackson or Steven Adams (whoever boston would want)
Amare (salary matching)
Perry Jones
a 1st from NYK (2018) and a 1st from OKC

Thunder Recieve:
Tyson Chandler
Raymond Felton (backs up westbrook for losing Jackson)

I think that trade work in the checker too.

Would be at least interesting to think about don't you think?

Knicks would look like:

Rondo
Shumpert
Melo
Kmart
Bargs

Prigs
THjr
Wallace
Perkins

JR and Murry would still by on the roster as well.

Post #4108 » by **NoLayupRule** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:04 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:The knicks have a big asset in Tyson Chandler (that both OKC and Portland) would love.

OKC hasn't gotten any production out of there center position. Getting Tyson gives them a starting Lineup of Chandler, Ibaka, Durant, Thabo, and Westbrook (great mix right there)

Portland has horrible defense and even though Lopez is putting up good #'s he isn't a good team defender. Tyson helps that team so much.

Unless one of these two teams signs Bynum, who could be amazing in either team

Post #4109 » by **NoLayupRule** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:04 pm

iHeartKNicks wrote:New Orleans is pushing EG hard & they're short on PF depth right now you think they would be interested in Bargain? Especially seeing how Ryan anderson is out indefinitely and he was a stretch 4:
Bargs + JR for EG + Rivers

lol

I basically said the same thing above

I forgot about Anderson too

Johnny Hoops · Post #4110 » by **Johnny Hoops** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:10 pm

Boarder Patrol wrote:Posted this on the Magic board and it was a pretty unanimous yes, so I'd be interested to see what you guys think. I've changed it up a bit and made it a little more in our favor.

**This trade is done under the assumption that win now is NOT an option to the front office, which is pretty much guaranteed at this point. I'd like to blow it up as well, but if we want to salvage the season:

Davis, Nelson for Andrea, Felton, 2018 top-5 protected 1st, THJ, Cash

- save 2015 money
- try to aim for the 3 seed this year.

Chandler | STAT | Cole
Davis | Kenyon Martin | Tyler
Melo | Metta
Shump | JR | Toure
Jameer | Pablo | Beno

Of course it was a unanimous yes on the Magic board.

We get an aging Nelson and an aging/often injured big baby and we give away what has been our 2nd best player (Bargs) our starting pg and 1st round pick, a top 10 rookie from this year and cash....are you crazy???

ag3 · Post #4111 » by **ag3** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:18 pm

Knicks should look to trade for Gordon.

Post #4112 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:52 pm

Boarder Patrol wrote:Posted this on the Magic board and it was a pretty unanimous yes, so I'd be interested to see what you guys think. I've changed it up a bit and made it a little more in our favor.

**This trade is done under the assumption that win now is NOT an option to the front office, which is pretty much guaranteed at this point. I'd like to blow it up as well, but if we want to salvage the season:

Davis, Nelson for Andrea, Felton, 2018 top-5 protected 1st, THJ, Cash

- save 2015 money
- try to aim for the 3 seed this year.

Chandler | STAT | Cole
Davis | Kenyon Martin | Tyler
Melo | Metta
Shump | JR | Toure
Jameer | Pablo | Beno

your nuts...that trade sukkks azz for the knicks

Post #4113 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:54 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:The knicks have a big asset in Tyson Chandler (that both OKC and Portland) would love.

OKC hasn't gotten any production out of there center position. Getting Tyson gives them a starting Lineup of Chandler, Ibaka, Durant, Thabo, and Westbrook (great mix right there)

Portland has horrible defense and even though Lopez is putting up good #'s he isn't a good team defender. Tyson helps that team so much.

Unless one of these two teams signs Bynum, who could be amazing in either team

ehhh both those teams are looking for a defensive leader. Bynum is far from a leader. I don't think anyone wants that clown bynum who only plays for himself.

I just think the knicks could survive without tyson. Someone like OKC or Portland could really benifit from his presence .

Rasho Brezec · Post #4114 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:05 pm

I'm not sure Bargnani and JR gets you Ben Gordon, let alone Eric Gordon. You'd have to trade Tyson for him.

Post #4115 » by **jwise44** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:17 pm

GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
jwise44 wrote:
rajajackal wrote:Sign Bynum. Trade JR and Chandler to Boston for Rondo and Wallace

Bynum/Bargnani
Amar'e/Kenyon
Melo/Wallace
Shump/THJ
Rondo/Murry

Tyler, Prigioni, MWP

Worst trade for rondo ever

Jr has negative value and if they trade rondo they're rebuilding. Why would they want chandler

They would want picks

The only way I see rondo coming is via a 3 team deal.

The knicks have a big asset in Tyson Chandler (that both OKC and Portland) would love.

OKC hasn't gotten any production out of there center position. Getting Tyson gives them a starting Lineup of Chandler, Ibaka, Durant, Thabo, and Westbrook (great mix right there)

Portland has horrible defense and even though Lopez is putting up good #'s he isn't a good team defender. Tyson helps that team so much.

Both OKC and Portland have young pieces and picks that would interest Boston.

If we were willing to take back a contract like Gerald Wallace we could probably could get something done.

Something like:

NYK Recieve:
Rondo
Wallace
Perkins

Boston Receives:
Reggie Jackson or Steven Adams (whoever boston would want)
Amare (salary matching)
Perry Jones
a 1st from NYK (2018) and a 1st from OKC

Thunder Recieve:
Tyson Chandler
Raymond Felton (backs up westbrook for losing Jackson)

I think that trade work in the checker too.

Would be at least interesting to think about don't you think?

Knicks would look like:

Rondo
Shumpert
Melo
Kmart
Bargs

Prigs
THjr
Wallace
Perkins

JR and Murry would still by on the roster as well.

So u trade bad contracts and an awful pick(yes Tyson at this point is) for bad contracts and a star

Post #4116 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:21 pm

jwise44 wrote:
GoodAzzGame_NYK wrote:
The only way I see rondo coming is via a 3 team deal.

The knicks have a big asset in Tyson Chandler (that both OKC and Portland) would love.

OKC hasn't gotten any production out of there center position. Getting Tyson gives them a starting Lineup of Chandler, Ibaka, Durant, Thabo, and Westbrook (great mix right there)

Portland has horrible defense and even though Lopez is putting up good #'s he isn't a good team defender. Tyson helps that team so much.

Both OKC and Portland have young pieces and picks that would interest Boston.

If we were willing to take back a contract like Gerald Wallace we could probably could get something done.

Something like:

NYK Recieve:
Rondo
Wallace
Perkins

Boston Receives:
Reggie Jackson or Steven Adams (whoever boston would want)
Amare (salary matching)
Perry Jones
a 1st from NYK (2018) and a 1st from OKC

Thunder Recieve:
Tyson Chandler
Raymond Felton (backs up westbrook for losing Jackson)

I think that trade work in the checker too.

Would be at least interesting to think about don't you think?

Knicks would look like:

Rondo
Shumpert
Melo
Kmart
Bargs

Prigs
THjr
Wallace
Perkins

JR and Murry would still by on the roster as well.

So u trade bad contracts and an awful pick(yes Tyson at this point is) for bad contracts and a star

NYK - get there PG

BOS - gets a young player in reggie jackson and 2 1st rounders + they lose an extra year off wallace's contract

OKC - gets a all-star calibre center (something they desperetly need)

i think every team wins, who doesnt?

Mars_Blackmon · Post #4117 » by **Mars_Blackmon** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:23 pm

Thunder aren't trading their youth

Jackson
Adams
Jones
Lamb
Roberson

will all play big roles for them especially next year

they have a great mix of vets(Perkins, Collison, Fisher), prime players(Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and Sefolosha) and youth(Jackson, Adams, Jones, Roberson and Lamb)

Rasho Brezec · Post #4118 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:26 pm

Thunder give up way too much and pay the lux tax for it.

Post #4119 » by **NoLayupRule** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:I'm not sure Bargnani and JR gets you Ben Gordon, let alone Eric Gordon. You'd have to trade Tyson for him.

not if they want out from his contract, which they do

Post #4120 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:30 pm

Mars_Blackmon wrote:Thunder aren't trading their youth

Jackson
Adams
Jones
Lamb
Roberson

will all play big roles for them especially next year

they have a great mix of vets(Perkins, Collison, Fisher), prime players(Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka and Sefolosha) and youth(Jackson, Adams, Jones, Roberson and Lamb)

disagree, they have nothing as long as durant and westbrook aren't playing at a high level. If westbrook is there jackson is limited to a backup role.

THey have gotten zero production out of center the last couple years I think you are really underestimating an all-star calibre center that could come to there team.

THey really wouldn't be breaking up the core (jackson and 1st most likely late) for tyson chandler? OKC would be foolish not to make that deal.