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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#841 » by AlexCRO » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:08 pm

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StrengthNHonor wrote:Wait..... you guys actually believe that report that the Heat aren't interested? You guys haven't learned a thing about Riley have you.



I believe it because the Heat have guaranteed Mason's contract. I haven't heard if they did guarantee Oden's contract, but I think the Heat would have cut someone by now to get Bynum.

I don't remember the last time a report said "Heat weren't interested" and they ended up getting the guy.

Though now that I think about it, people said Beasley back to Miami was false. But the deadlines right now have all passed.

Now if the Heat can somehow get rid of Joel, they'd have Bynum by now...


I dont think thats true at all. If the heat had cut Mason by the deadline, it would be so obvious they were going after Bynum and might have pushed up his market value. Other teams will go after him just to keep him from the heat. Not cutting Mason, and putting out news that we arent interested may bring Bynum's market value back down to the vet min. I seriously doubt that Pat Riley would even hesitate to cut Mason if he REALLY wanted Bynum even if it meant having eat the rest of Mason's contract. Its not that much tbh.

HOWEVER, this is not to say I know Pat Riley's intentions. But i dont think not cutting Mason is any indication of whether we want Bynum or not. And yes Oden's contract was always guaranteed, from day one it was. A vet min 1 year deal.


doesnt oden have a 2 year deal with the second year player option if i am not mistaken ???
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Post#842 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:12 pm

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Post#843 » by He's Heating Up » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:02 pm

Serious question for Heat fans.
For everyone saying Miami don't need Bynum because they have Oden, isn't Bynum exactly what you want from Oden except he actually is physically able to play at the moment.
If someone said Oden will average 8 pts 5 rbs and a block this year (Bynums averages so far) you would jump all over it, hell his last game played was 19pts 7rbs on 60%.

And for people saying he doesn't fit the Heats game style because he is too slow or whatever, do we even know if Oden can walk up and down the court with breaking down?

I pray that Oden works out and plays a part in the 3 peat, but I don't see how Bynum would be worse than him.
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Post#844 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:20 pm

sounds like we are passing on him. good.
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Post#845 » by Dmcdani6 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:40 pm

In all honesty, I think the heat still have interest, but are calling his bluff. He wants more than min, they don't want to give it to him. So, they play the waiting game, maybe he will budge?
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Post#846 » by BIRDMAN BIRDMAN » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:34 pm

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Post#847 » by Jipluralx » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:17 pm

DefenseWins wrote:I wouldn't like it if the Pacers got Bynum (reports saying there is interest). But I don't think he wants to play in Indiana, though if he sees they have a legit shot to dethrone the Heat in the playoffs, he might play well. Depends on his health.

We'll see I guess, I just don't see how the Heat can make room for Bynum since they have guaranteed everyone's contracts, and no one is going to want Joel, who's the only guy I think the Heat would actually want to get rid of. Everyone else is a 3 point threat than can bite us in the ass later UNLESS it's against a non-rival team.

I think the Heat would want a 2nd rounder for Joel and some cash at this point, but everyone knows it'd just make room to make us better. No one wants that. I'd love to be wrong on this report :lol:


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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#848 » by Tony15 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:42 pm

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DefenseWins wrote:I wouldn't like it if the Pacers got Bynum (reports saying there is interest). But I don't think he wants to play in Indiana, though if he sees they have a legit shot to dethrone the Heat in the playoffs, he might play well. Depends on his health.

We'll see I guess, I just don't see how the Heat can make room for Bynum since they have guaranteed everyone's contracts, and no one is going to want Joel, who's the only guy I think the Heat would actually want to get rid of. Everyone else is a 3 point threat than can bite us in the ass later UNLESS it's against a non-rival team.

I think the Heat would want a 2nd rounder for Joel and some cash at this point, but everyone knows it'd just make room to make us better. No one wants that. I'd love to be wrong on this report :lol:


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Pacers' interest here is more about keeping Bynum away from Miami than actually bringing Bynum in, sources tell Hoops Analysis.

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Post#849 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:56 pm

If that's really the Pacers' motivation for signing Bynum, then its pathetic.
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Post#850 » by CWebb2491 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:39 pm

If the man actually wants to play, and play well at that, we should sign him. To help out in the playoffs, oden is not a sure thing, All it takes is bird or bosh getting injured and we're stuck with UD or Joel as the back up. Personally I'd rather have that security knowing I got some bigs throw in the playoffs. Indy just got bigger with granger and scola, I appreciate money mase coming here and playing hard but this team is trying to win it all every year.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#851 » by aquaadverse » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:46 pm

CWebb2491 wrote:If the man actually wants to play, and play well at that, we should sign him. To help out in the playoffs, oden is not a sure thing, All it takes is bird or bosh getting injured and we're stuck with UD or Joel as the back up. Personally I'd rather have that security knowing I got some bigs throw in the playoffs. Indy just got bigger with granger and scola, I appreciate money mase coming here and playing hard but this team is trying to win it all every year.


And if a better fit came up in the next few weeks and Miami could''t make a move, that would be better. Because Bynum has no injury history, He's never missed a season. He's never missed a slew of games from injury during his career.
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Post#852 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:52 pm

It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.
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Post#853 » by heatlespeatles » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:05 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.

awful? You must not have watched him play. The only thing that leaves much to be desired is his quickness on defense
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#854 » by aquaadverse » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:29 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.

awful? You must not have watched him play. The only thing that leaves much to be desired is his quickness on defense

Yeah, that's not important in the Heat scheme/
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#855 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:34 pm

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RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.

awful? You must not have watched him play. The only thing that leaves much to be desired is his quickness on defense


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Post#856 » by PacerNation24 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:43 pm

As a Pacers fan, I want us to stay away from Bynum. Huge headcase and not worth the risk. I really don't understand why you guys would want him either, he won't do **** against Hibbert, guy can hardly move
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Post#857 » by greg4012 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:50 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.


Ignorant comment.

He wasn't awful. He had some spurts of really good play and some spurts of bad play being a non-factor. He was inconsistent.

Maybe you can say he was "awful" in comparison to his talent level or prior performance level (top 2-3 center in the NBA), but he was not awful.

He's not what Cavs fans who thought they got a steal wanted. If you're counting on Bynum to be a centerpiece for your team, then I agree from that lens he didn't look good. If you're gauging his play in regards to how he would contribute here, then barring attitude problems (which I know is a significant factor) I'll take it all day.

Fun fact: despite having some straight stinker games, Hibbert and Bynum's per 36 stats are almost identical (Bynum's FG% is a little lower, but both are similarly underwhelming). Hibbert obviously plays elite D. But, interesting to note IMO
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#858 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:08 am

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RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.


Ignorant comment.

He wasn't awful. He had some spurts of really good play and some spurts of bad play being a non-factor. He was inconsistent.

Maybe you can say he was "awful" in comparison to his talent level or prior performance level (top 2-3 center in the NBA), but he was not awful.

He's not what Cavs fans who thought they got a steal wanted. If you're counting on Bynum to be a centerpiece for your team, then I agree from that lens he didn't look good. If you're gauging his play in regards to how he would contribute here, then barring attitude problems (which I know is a significant factor) I'll take it all day.

Fun fact: despite having some straight stinker games, Hibbert and Bynum's per 36 stats are almost identical (Bynum's FG% is a little lower, but both are similarly underwhelming). Hibbert obviously plays elite D. But, interesting to note IMO


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Fun fact - you can make any 2 players look similar if you ignore half of the game (defense, where one player is elite and other is bad) and the most important factor on offense (efficiency). There's a bunch of advanced stats that clearly show how badly Bynum impacted the Cavs, and there's also the fun fact that nobody seems to want him despite his "spurts of really good play" his numbers are just awful almost across the board. We've talked about his questionable fit here in terms of skillet and in terms of character. I don't really mind if Pat decides to take a gamble on him because there's nothing significant to lose, but there's also almost no reason to think he'll become a valuable piece for us.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#859 » by heatlespeatles » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:44 am

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RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.

awful? You must not have watched him play. The only thing that leaves much to be desired is his quickness on defense


Why do you insist on exposing your cluelessness? Do your research before you post.

you post a bunch of b.s of opinions and don't back it up and constantly sell dreams of Hawes and a one armed Okafor, wtf.

I WATCHED him play, for what we would need him to do, he's fine.
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Re: Andrew Bynum 

Post#860 » by heatlespeatles » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:47 am

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RexBoyWonder wrote:It's not even about the risk of a Bynum injury, It's more about how he looked WHEN HEALTHY AND PLAYING THIS SEASON. Hint - it was awful.

awful? You must not have watched him play. The only thing that leaves much to be desired is his quickness on defense

Yeah, that's not important in the Heat scheme/

no BIG man will be fast on defense the way the Heat want them to be, Bosh and Bird are skinny power forwards.

Hibbert wouldn't be fast, Shaq wasn't fast, neither will Bynum be fast. Miami would probably cut Hibbert because he's too slow, look at him in Indiana flourishing, y'all get caught up with that headless chicken defense and don't see the bigger picture. You want fast defensive centers? keep running out Power forwards and have every center we play against looking like Shaq, Bargnani and Amare are Shaq too

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