Cavs vs Bulls

[Okada]

Remember this Mike Brown Is our head coach for at least 4 more years... Let that sink in...

Which is so bad...why? The chances are that anyone that would replace him wouldn't be any better.

[SaiCLE]

Remember this Mike Brown Is our head coach for at least 4 more years... Let that sink in...

Which is so bad...why? The chances are that anyone that would replace him wouldn't be any better.

I'm pretty sure Hollins would be much better. We just hired Potato head without even interviewing other coaches. Look how terrible his rotations are, how outdated his defense Is or how about the fact that he get's out coached on a daily basis.

[TheOUTLAW]

Watching the Bulls feed, I'd better not ever hear a Bulls fan say anything about Cavs announcers. These guys are almost as biases as Heinsohn.

[kiwibrindle]

Sorry guys I'm turning on the spurs and the thunder on Espn for some real bball

[SaiCLE]

This team Is so poorly coached

[Okada]

Remember this Mike Brown Is our head coach for at least 4 more years... Let that sink in...

Which is so bad...why? The chances are that anyone that would replace him wouldn't be any better.

I'm pretty sure Hollins would be much better. We just hired Potato head without even interviewing other coaches. Look how terrible his rotations are, how outdated his defense Is or how about the fact that he get's out coached on a daily basis.

And Lionel Hollins is so perfect? He got let go. In almost every case, the coach is only as good as their roster.

[SaiCLE]

Which is so bad...why? The chances are that anyone that would replace him wouldn't be any better.

I'm pretty sure Hollins would be much better. We just hired Potato head without even interviewing other coaches. Look how terrible his rotations are, how outdated his defense Is or how about the fact that he get's out coached on a daily basis.

And Lionel Hollins is so perfect? He got let go. In almost every case, the coach is only as good as their roster.

Which was a huge mistake IMO. Let me know when Brown stops preaching that horrible hard hedging defense that constantly leaves 3 point shooters open every game. We could have at least interviewed someone before jumping to hire Brown like he's Phil Jackson.

"Under Hollins, the Grizzlies also featured one of the NBA’s best defenses. Memphis allowed the fewest points per game this season, with the 89.3 points the first time since 2005-06 that a team had held opponents below 90 points for an entire season. The Grizzlies also ranked third, holding opponents to 43.5 percent shooting and a league-best 33.5 percent made field goals a game."

http://nesn.com/2013/06/lionel-hollins-fired-by-grizzles-despite-teams-first-appearance-in-western-conference-finals/

[Okada]

I'm pretty sure Hollins would be much better. We just hired Potato head without even interviewing other coaches. Look how terrible his rotations are, how outdated his defense Is or how about the fact that he get's out coached on a daily basis.

And Lionel Hollins is so perfect? He got let go. In almost every case, the coach is only as good as their roster.

Which was a huge mistake IMO. Let me know when Brown stops preaching that horrible hard hedging defense that constantly leaves 3 point shooters open every game. We could have at least interviewed someone before jumping to hire Brown like he's Phil Jackson.

"Under Hollins, the Grizzlies also featured one of the NBA’s best defenses. Memphis allowed the fewest points per game this season, with the 89.3 points the first time since 2005-06 that a team had held opponents below 90 points for an entire season. The Grizzlies also ranked third, holding opponents to 43.5 percent shooting and a league-best 33.5 percent made field goals a game."

http://nesn.com/2013/06/lionel-hollins-fired-by-grizzles-despite-teams-first-appearance-in-western-conference-finals/

Again, mediocre coaches like him and Brown or only as good as their roster. They bring some good and some bad. And you're a complete fool if you think Brown doesn't bring some good on defense. And now you're acting like Hollins would have more success? If I'm not mistaken, we're 14th in defensive efficiency this year and were bottom 5 last year. Our roster is much younger and simply much worse than what Hollins had in Memphis. It's not like Tyler Zeller would turn into Marc Gasol and TT into Z-Bo just because Hollins shows up. Don't be ridiculous.

[SaiCLE]

And Lionel Hollins is so perfect? He got let go. In almost every case, the coach is only as good as their roster.

Which was a huge mistake IMO. Let me know when Brown stops preaching that horrible hard hedging defense that constantly leaves 3 point shooters open every game. We could have at least interviewed someone before jumping to hire Brown like he's Phil Jackson.

"Under Hollins, the Grizzlies also featured one of the NBA’s best defenses. Memphis allowed the fewest points per game this season, with the 89.3 points the first time since 2005-06 that a team had held opponents below 90 points for an entire season. The Grizzlies also ranked third, holding opponents to 43.5 percent shooting and a league-best 33.5 percent made field goals a game."

http://nesn.com/2013/06/lionel-hollins-fired-by-grizzles-despite-teams-first-appearance-in-western-conference-finals/

Again, mediocre coaches like him and Brown or only as good as their roster. They bring some good and some bad. And you're a complete fool if you think Brown doesn't bring some good on defense. And now you're acting like Hollins would have more success? If I'm not mistaken, we're 14th in defensive efficiency this year and were bottom 5 last year. Our roster is much younger and simply much worse than what Hollins had in Memphis. It's not like Tyler Zeller would turn into Marc Gasol and TT into Z-Bo just because Hollins shows up. Don't be ridiculous.

Brings some good on defense? We recently got blown out by the Kings by 44 points and we just lost to a depleted Bulls roster that had Taj Gibson, Dunlevy and DJ Augustine leading them at our home. We are constantly hard hedging which Is killing us. If Brown was a decent defensive minded coach, he would have been adjusted and fixed his terrible Defensive schemes. This Cavs team shouldn't be this terrible at all, no excuses can change this. The reason I want Hollins instead of Brown Is simply due to better defensive schemes. I'm tired of watching Brown constantly get out coached because he was too stubborn to change.

[Okada]

Do you not understand what a statistic is? The defense has significantly improved this year from last. It's just a fact. Whining about a couple of random games is meaningless. And I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. Say what you want but you would just end up disappointed with any other coach too. The coach is only as good as his roster. This team is mostly garbage on defense, Mike Brown has brought improvement which, again, is literally a fact.

[Martial]

Watching the Bulls feed, I'd better not ever hear a Bulls fan say anything about Cavs announcers. These guys are almost as biases as Heinsohn.

I'm a Bulls fans and I hate everything about our commentators. I often use the opponents coverage on league pass. Neil and Stacey are a **** joke.

[SaiCLE]

Do you not understand what a statistic is? The defense has significantly improved this year from last. It's just a fact. Whining about a couple of random games is meaningless. And I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. Say what you want but you would just end up disappointed with any other coach too. The coach is only as good as his roster. This team is mostly garbage on defense, Mike Brown has brought improvement which, again, is literally a fact.

I'm not about to sit here and just ignore the fact that Brown's defensive system Is outdated and flawed as hell. I could care less about being a top 15 defensive team when It doesn't translate into wins. His rotations and overall decision making Is freaking terrible. It's only so much blame that can go to the players. If a head coach can't make the right adjustments during a game then he shouldn't be coaching at all. Like I said give this young team a hard nosed coach who demands respect and we wouldn't be in this situation right now. I guess you're a fan of a coach who Is willing to give minutes to a guy who Is constantly killing our ball movement(Jack) over a guy that brings intangibles like Delly.

[Okada]

Do you not understand what a statistic is? The defense has significantly improved this year from last. It's just a fact. Whining about a couple of random games is meaningless. And I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. Say what you want but you would just end up disappointed with any other coach too. The coach is only as good as his roster. This team is mostly garbage on defense, Mike Brown has brought improvement which, again, is literally a fact.

I'm not about to sit here and just ignore the fact that Brown's defensive system Is outdated and flawed as hell. I could care less about being a top 15 defensive team when It doesn't translate into wins. His rotations and overall decision making Is freaking terrible. It's only so much blame that can go to the players. If a head coach can't make the right adjustments during a game then he shouldn't be coaching at all. Like I said give this young team a hard nosed coach who demands respect and we wouldn't be in this situation right now. I guess you're a fan of a coach who Is willing to give minutes to a guy who Is constantly killing our ball movement(Jack) over a guy that brings intangibles like Delly.

You would end up complaining about different flaws with everyone else though, that's what you don't understand. That's the reason that there is such an insane amount of turnover at head coaching spots. Almost every coach has a ton of glaring flaws. Like a quarter of the league changes coaches every single season because there's so much 'incompetence.' You're not gonna do much better than Brown. Like I said, unless you're nailing a no namer or hiring one of the 5 or 6 big names in the entire league, you're only getting a small upgrade at best or an incompetent downgrade at worst.

[jbk1234]

I think it says a lot about the way the game went tonight that the thread regressed to arguing about the importance of coaching in the NBA,

[Okada]

The loss tonight kinda hurt, I know, but everybody should keep in mind that the Bulls are 9-2 in their last 11 games. Yes, many of those without Deng. It's not like we're the only victim here, they've been playing well lately and even though the name value of their roster is awful, they're playing better than that. It happens. Look at what the Suns are doing to the Pacers on ESPN right now. They've been obliterating the 33-7 Pacers with a lineup of Goran Dragic, Gerald Green, PJ Tucker, Channing Frye, and Miles Plumlee. Sometimes teams play way better than their name value and to a significant degree, the Bulls are right now. Props to Hornacek and Thibs lol.

[jbk1234]

I think the Bulls are better without Boozer on the floor. He's going to get amnestied like a third-world dictator this summer.