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Re: JS: Hammond Q&A 

Post#41 » by SkilesTheLimit » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:49 am

blazza18 wrote:I'm sure if we had some kinda hard nosed reporter we'd get more out of him, pressure him more.


Monroe/Paschke couldn't have written softer questions for Hammond if they tried. Gardner knows who butters his bread. No way is he given these exclusives if he was asking the kinds of questions all of us would want answered.
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Post#42 » by blazza18 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:59 am

Also love how he admitted playing the young guys was never the plan.

The Bucks twitter guy can shove the 78% of Bucks minutes a from players 26 years or younger up his/her ass.
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Post#43 » by bizarro » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:08 am

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I think he's potentially a keeper piece and a piece you can build with.

Such a milquetoast ****.


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Post#44 » by Ayt » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:17 am

Hammond doesn't even qualify as being in over his head. He didn't accidentally go to far into the deep end of the pool and is struggling to get back to safety. He's sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
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Post#45 » by blazza18 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:20 am

How would Hammond get looked at around the league after this season ? Everything started to hit the fan for the franchise during the playoffs last year when the spotlight was on us. And now to put together a roster they thought could compete end up being this bad. Surely he's a laughing stock right ? How has he lasted this **** long.

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Post#46 » by AussieBuck » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:30 am

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Q. You selected Antetokounmpo with the 15th pick in last year's draft, taking a chance on the youngest player in the draft, a raw talent from Greece. He has moved into the starting lineup at just 19 years old. Are you happy with your selection?

A. We're really excited. We talked before the season started that we wanted to expose him (to the league) but not overexpose him. We didn't want him to lose confidence and have those around him lose confidence in him. Nearing the end of the exhibition season we looked at our stats and realized he was one of our leading scorers, he was one of our leading rebounders. He was our leading shot blocker. He was leading us in free throws attempted.


Is this how things are evaluated in the FO? That's just such a weird quote. You'd think he'd say something like "he was one of our best players on the floor" or "he showed us a lot"...but he talks about picking up a stat sheet and making a decision solely off that. Is that how playing time is determined? Teh statz? What the hell?

Seven years of evidence points to Hammonds being every bit that basic. He'll be part of the brainstrust as long as Herb stays on running the team into the ground.
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Re: JS: Hammond Q&A 

Post#47 » by breakchains » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:42 am

cinematographer wrote:Go to about 18:30 in. The nuance of that ONE PART of this subset, the strong-side screen, with the cut off the switch or the open three, is lightyears ahead of what Drew runs.

AND THIS AVAILABLE, FOR FREE, ONLINE. ANYONE WITH AN INTERNET CONNECTION has access to a wrinkle of a set several orders of magnitude more advanced than what Drew runs, and as Messina tells it, it's a very basic action.

I hate how we're a franchise stuck chasing batting average while the rest of baseball is getting wise to on base percentage. Oakland's already evolved to fly-ball, switch-hitting, multi-position players. Imagine how far behind we'll be once the Spurs and Rockets evolve.

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I would love an outside the box hire like Messina, but when have the Bucks ever made such a move? Look at all of their coaches the last 20 years. Kohl is clearly very conservative in this area. So basically, pipe dream, unfortunately.
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Re: JS: Hammond Q&A 

Post#48 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:42 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Woelfel tonight on WSSP said he talked with a couple Bucks officials who think the team can be back competing quickly. Once they get the stud in June, they've got their core of Henson, Knight, Giannis and draft pick.


They're going to **** this up. Imbeciles.


Then Gery said later that another front office guy told him that they realize they can't sign bad attitude players like Stephen Jackson, Maggette, Drew Gooden anymore.

Again, the front office is a cluster ****.


From this interview it seems like Hammond is on board with a multi-year, draft based rebuild - but are the multitude of voices in the front office? And which one has Kohl's ear at the moment?

To your point about bad attitude players, you would think this organization would reflect upon why this continues to happen, but instead they put it completely on the players, and Hammond excuses it by saying it happens everywhere.
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Post#49 » by Ayt » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:43 am

cinematographer wrote:If you have even the slightest of chance that your 6'10" and still growing rookie is a point guard, YOU PLAY HIM AT THE POINT. How, with only 8 wins, can this organization lack not just the imagination but the ambition to try out a future seven-footer at point guard? Because there's never been one before? Since when is that an excuse?

It's made even more appalling by their belief that Brandon Knight is a point guard. It's incomprehensible.


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Post#50 » by Max Green » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:44 am

bizarro wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
I think he's potentially a keeper piece and a piece you can build with.

Such a milquetoast ****.


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I hate this organization. I really do. Such utter incompetent myopic uninspired boobs. Brandon Knight is a total douche of a PG. And, he's the one these idiots keep talking about. A no-vision, head-down, overrated defense chucker. You have literally an all-world talent in Giannis...a once in a generation type of prospect. He's potentially (!!) a keeper piece?!?!? Are you **** kidding me?!?!? He's the only reason anyone in the **** world gives a flying **** about the Milwaukee Bucks this season. The only reason they salvaged any ounce of identity after a colossal failure of an offseason. **** them. I hope they trade Giannis so I can watch him under actual leadership. Watch him handle the ball and run an offense. While nothing players like Brandon Knight can CRASH into the lane. Into the rim. Pile up meaningless points and terrible asst/TO rations in 20 pt. losses so **** like Gery Woelfel and Chuck Gardner can point to what a high character good kid Knight is and how he just needs to learn to make better decisions...And, meanwhile, the whole **** lot of them can talk about Giannis' ups and downs. Blah blah blah. **** all of them. I am not a Milwaukee Bucks fan today. I am a Giannis fan. I hope you don't spend the rest of your career with these **** idiots. DONE.


Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".
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Post#51 » by breakchains » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:47 am

No matter what, whether it's Larry Drew's garbage ass or someone else, the entire offense needs to be designed around Giannis. Every other player on the team needs to understand that they play a specific role, and that Giannis is the team's engine.

The problem with the Bucks is, there is no damn leadership, and they sign all these guys who are legends in their own minds, so you have absolutely zero rhythm or flow to your offense. Giannis is the damn engine. Everyone else has a role. Set them, and whoever doesn't abide rides the pine.
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Post#52 » by DanoMac » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:52 am

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bizarro wrote:
cinematographer wrote:Such a milquetoast ****.


:banghead: :nonono: :vent:

RANT:

Spoiler:
I hate this organization. I really do. Such utter incompetent myopic uninspired boobs. Brandon Knight is a total douche of a PG. And, he's the one these idiots keep talking about. A no-vision, head-down, overrated defense chucker. You have literally an all-world talent in Giannis...a once in a generation type of prospect. He's potentially (!!) a keeper piece?!?!? Are you **** kidding me?!?!? He's the only reason anyone in the **** world gives a flying **** about the Milwaukee Bucks this season. The only reason they salvaged any ounce of identity after a colossal failure of an offseason. **** them. I hope they trade Giannis so I can watch him under actual leadership. Watch him handle the ball and run an offense. While nothing players like Brandon Knight can CRASH into the lane. Into the rim. Pile up meaningless points and terrible asst/TO rations in 20 pt. losses so **** like Gery Woelfel and Chuck Gardner can point to what a high character good kid Knight is and how he just needs to learn to make better decisions...And, meanwhile, the whole **** lot of them can talk about Giannis' ups and downs. Blah blah blah. **** all of them. I am not a Milwaukee Bucks fan today. I am a Giannis fan. I hope you don't spend the rest of your career with these **** idiots. DONE.


Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".


It's a lot more than that. You'd have to be out of your **** mind to even think about getting rid of this kid. All he had to say was "He's a keeper and someone we're going to build around". Why not make a definitive statement? He's leaving the door open for another Tobias blunder.
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Post#53 » by breakchains » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:53 am

next billboard: #GiveGiannisTheDamnKeys

Really. The kid just oozes with playmaking capability, and does it in such a precise and deliberate fashion. He really has a preternatural feel for the game. If they don't understand this and really begin to mold the team around him (no matter who they get in the draft), they don't deserve to make a living via the game of basketball.
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Post#54 » by bizarro » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:53 am

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bizarro wrote:
cinematographer wrote:Such a milquetoast ****.


:banghead: :nonono: :vent:

RANT:

Spoiler:
I hate this organization. I really do. Such utter incompetent myopic uninspired boobs. Brandon Knight is a total douche of a PG. And, he's the one these idiots keep talking about. A no-vision, head-down, overrated defense chucker. You have literally an all-world talent in Giannis...a once in a generation type of prospect. He's potentially (!!) a keeper piece?!?!? Are you **** kidding me?!?!? He's the only reason anyone in the **** world gives a flying **** about the Milwaukee Bucks this season. The only reason they salvaged any ounce of identity after a colossal failure of an offseason. **** them. I hope they trade Giannis so I can watch him under actual leadership. Watch him handle the ball and run an offense. While nothing players like Brandon Knight can CRASH into the lane. Into the rim. Pile up meaningless points and terrible asst/TO rations in 20 pt. losses so **** like Gery Woelfel and Chuck Gardner can point to what a high character good kid Knight is and how he just needs to learn to make better decisions...And, meanwhile, the whole **** lot of them can talk about Giannis' ups and downs. Blah blah blah. **** all of them. I am not a Milwaukee Bucks fan today. I am a Giannis fan. I hope you don't spend the rest of your career with these **** idiots. DONE.


Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".


Yes, dude. Really.

"Potentially" in the context of John Hammond. On the heels of flatly declaring: We didn't intend to play youth. Injuries are the reason we're here. We looked at the stat sheets and said 'Hey, Giannis is leading these categories' derp derp derp...etc. They have NO clue. None. I'm completely fine with calling a spade a spade. Giannis is absolutely the only reason I even have hope for the Bucks. BUT, they don't have the faintest idea of how to use his talents. Until there is a new owner. A new GM. A new coach...I just don't care. I have zero faith this current meddling bunch of dolts can assemble anything given their complete lack of vision and accountability.

I am completely fine separating my nostalgia and history watching the Bucks throughout the 80's until today. I'm just done caring about the absolute incompetence of Kohl and Co. and, particularly, the drivel that spews from John Hammond's mouth. They are 20 years behind the basketball curve. They simply don't get it.

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Post#55 » by cinematographer » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:54 am

breakchains wrote:I would love an outside the box hire like Messina, but when have the Bucks ever made such a move? Look at all of their coaches the last 20 years. Kohl is clearly very conservative in this area. So basically, pipe dream, unfortunately.

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Post#56 » by bizarro » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:01 am

breakchains wrote:next billboard: #GiveGiannisTheDamnKeys

Really. The kid just oozes with playmaking capability, and does it in such a precise and deliberate fashion. He really has a preternatural feel for the game. If they don't understand this and really begin to mold the team around him (no matter who they get in the draft), they don't deserve to make a living via the game of basketball.


I personally like:

Free Giannis

I wish I had the desire to make an accompanying website detailing how infinitely more qualified Giannis is for running the Bucks team. Site Knight's totally unimpressive qualities and metrics. Site the preposterous notion the offseason acquisitions could have led to success with everyone healthy - starting w/ signing an injured Delfino (Good God, people!!). Site how ridiculously outdated and disgusting Drew's offensive and defensive strategies are.

But, honestly, I think it's just easier to wait for Hammond and Co. to trade him given the nature of their incompetence. They probably looked at Tobias' struggles after coming off the IR and thought: "See, we made the right call." I mean, each and every time I think they may just possibly have evolved and learned from their past mistakes...something like this pathetic interview comes out. It's just utter drivel. Completely inconsequential unaccountable drivel.
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Post#57 » by Max Green » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:03 am

DanoMac wrote:
Max Green wrote:
bizarro wrote:
:banghead: :nonono: :vent:

RANT:

Spoiler:
I hate this organization. I really do. Such utter incompetent myopic uninspired boobs. Brandon Knight is a total douche of a PG. And, he's the one these idiots keep talking about. A no-vision, head-down, overrated defense chucker. You have literally an all-world talent in Giannis...a once in a generation type of prospect. He's potentially (!!) a keeper piece?!?!? Are you **** kidding me?!?!? He's the only reason anyone in the **** world gives a flying **** about the Milwaukee Bucks this season. The only reason they salvaged any ounce of identity after a colossal failure of an offseason. **** them. I hope they trade Giannis so I can watch him under actual leadership. Watch him handle the ball and run an offense. While nothing players like Brandon Knight can CRASH into the lane. Into the rim. Pile up meaningless points and terrible asst/TO rations in 20 pt. losses so **** like Gery Woelfel and Chuck Gardner can point to what a high character good kid Knight is and how he just needs to learn to make better decisions...And, meanwhile, the whole **** lot of them can talk about Giannis' ups and downs. Blah blah blah. **** all of them. I am not a Milwaukee Bucks fan today. I am a Giannis fan. I hope you don't spend the rest of your career with these **** idiots. DONE.


Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".


It's a lot more than that. You'd have to be out of your **** mind to even think about getting rid of this kid. All he had to say was "He's a keeper and someone we're going to build around". Why not make a definitive statement? He's leaving the door open for another Tobias blunder.


Hammond has been gushing over Yanni in every interview he's done so far. There's a ton of **** to rip Hammond on but nitpicking one sentence because he didn't use the exact verbiage you wanted and equating it with Yanni being traded like Tobes is pure paranoia. Hammond is not gonna get rid of the only great thing he's done in 7 years.
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Post#58 » by breakchains » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:08 am

bizarro wrote:
breakchains wrote:next billboard: #GiveGiannisTheDamnKeys

Really. The kid just oozes with playmaking capability, and does it in such a precise and deliberate fashion. He really has a preternatural feel for the game. If they don't understand this and really begin to mold the team around him (no matter who they get in the draft), they don't deserve to make a living via the game of basketball.


I personally like:

Free Giannis

I wish I had the desire to make an accompanying website detailing how infinitely more qualified Giannis is for running the Bucks team. Site Knight's totally unimpressive qualities and metrics. Site the preposterous notion the offseason acquisitions could have led to success with everyone healthy - starting w/ signing an injured Delfino (Good God, people!!). Site how ridiculously outdated and disgusting Drew's offensive and defensive strategies are.

But, honestly, I think it's just easier to wait for Hammond and Co. to trade him given the nature of their incompetence. They probably looked at Tobias' struggles after coming off the IR and thought: "See, we made the right call." I mean, each and every time I think they may just possibly have evolved and learned from their past mistakes...something like this pathetic interview comes out. It's just utter drivel. Completely inconsequential unaccountable drivel.


In their minds, they already have freed Giannis.

Also, don't underestimate the difficulty we will have with Knight giving up control of this team. This team seems intent on him being part of the core, and clearly it seems they are as a PG. I think we're going to have some real horrid times as we realize we have a true gift sitting on our team who is being severely impeded because of a gunning joke of a point guard who is still living off his high school clippings is the guy who controls the ball with a head coach who is uneasy about offending his more alpha players.

I think it will take either a new coach, the front office to smarten up and move him, or an injury, for Knight not to make this much more difficult than it should be.
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Re: JS: Hammond Q&A 

Post#59 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:09 am

bizarro wrote:
Max Green wrote:
bizarro wrote:
:banghead: :nonono: :vent:

RANT:

Spoiler:
I hate this organization. I really do. Such utter incompetent myopic uninspired boobs. Brandon Knight is a total douche of a PG. And, he's the one these idiots keep talking about. A no-vision, head-down, overrated defense chucker. You have literally an all-world talent in Giannis...a once in a generation type of prospect. He's potentially (!!) a keeper piece?!?!? Are you **** kidding me?!?!? He's the only reason anyone in the **** world gives a flying **** about the Milwaukee Bucks this season. The only reason they salvaged any ounce of identity after a colossal failure of an offseason. **** them. I hope they trade Giannis so I can watch him under actual leadership. Watch him handle the ball and run an offense. While nothing players like Brandon Knight can CRASH into the lane. Into the rim. Pile up meaningless points and terrible asst/TO rations in 20 pt. losses so **** like Gery Woelfel and Chuck Gardner can point to what a high character good kid Knight is and how he just needs to learn to make better decisions...And, meanwhile, the whole **** lot of them can talk about Giannis' ups and downs. Blah blah blah. **** all of them. I am not a Milwaukee Bucks fan today. I am a Giannis fan. I hope you don't spend the rest of your career with these **** idiots. DONE.


Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".


Yes, dude. Really.

"Potentially" in the context of John Hammond. On the heels of flatly declaring: We didn't intend to play youth. Injuries are the reason we're here. We looked at the stat sheets and said 'Hey, Giannis is leading these categories' derp derp derp...etc. They have NO clue. None. I'm completely fine with calling a spade a spade. Giannis is absolutely the only reason I even have hope for the Bucks. BUT, they don't have the faintest idea of how to use his talents. Until there is a new owner. A new GM. A new coach...I just don't care. I have zero faith this current meddling bunch of dolts can assemble anything given their complete lack of vision and accountability.

I am completely fine separating my nostalgia and history watching the Bucks throughout the 80's until today. I'm just done caring about the absolute incompetence of Kohl and Co. and, particularly, the drivel that spews from John Hammond's mouth. They are 20 years behind the basketball curve. They simply don't get it.

Free Giannis :D


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Re: JS: Hammond Q&A 

Post#60 » by bizarro » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:11 am

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Really, dude?? All that over the word "potentially".


It's a lot more than that. You'd have to be out of your **** mind to even think about getting rid of this kid. All he had to say was "He's a keeper and someone we're going to build around". Why not make a definitive statement? He's leaving the door open for another Tobias blunder.


Hammond has been gushing over Yanni in every interview he's done so far. There's a ton of **** to rip Hammond on but nitpicking one sentence because he didn't use the exact verbiage you wanted and equating it with Yanni being traded like Tobes is pure paranoia. Hammond is not gonna get rid of the only great thing he's done in 7 years.


Look, I know they're not going to trade Giannis. At least, I'd like to think there is no way in hell they even remotely consider it - they'd have to be downright crazy. BUT, my reaction isn't about trading Giannis. Seriously. It's about the absolute lack of vision, accountability, creativity, innovation, and responsible leadership. It's about the simple fact I wholeheartedly disagree with how they've built this team for over a decade. And, the comments made solidifying they legitimately thought the veteran talent they signed would lead to another 8th seed quest...and, its consequent failure is just outright embarrassing. Instead of taking any ownership for the rebuilding process, Hammond completely defers and states it's by accident. That is what pisses me off. Lead. Inspire. Demonstrate. Don't offer up pathetic excuses for a completely failed plan - emblematic of a failed ideology, again, going on over a decade. And, this utter nonsense is the exact mentality that believes Brandon Knight is an admirable PG project. While we have potentially the most innovative PG project in the history of basketball, we're going to give the keys to Crash?!? No Thank You. Resoundingly.

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