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Re: 2014 Official Suns Free Agent/Trade/Transaction Thread 

Post#1181 » by JDLAW » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:56 pm

charara13 wrote:Yes im sure the Suns are really looking for a guy like Young whos talented and still young. Ive heard Evan Turner im some trade talks for Phx too. Suns should trade their pick they can get a proven player not someone theyre unsure about

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Do not be so sure about something you know nothing about. There is nothing in the local media (print or electronic) that indicates nor ever that the Suns now have or have ever had any interest in Young or Evans.
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Post#1182 » by charara13 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:58 pm

The Young news alot of people know its true. Go search up Thaddeus Young Suns on google many sites show up about the rumors im a Suns fan myself i think i know whats going on lol

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Post#1183 » by JDLAW » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:07 pm

charara13 wrote:The Young news alot of people know its true. Go search up Thaddeus Young Suns on google many sites show up about the rumors im a Suns fan myself i think i know whats going on lol

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I live here in the valley and monitor things very closely - there has never been any interest expressed by the Suns in Thad Young or Evans. The Suns have denied they would make such moves, but I am sure you have better information there in Michigan than we do here.
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Post#1184 » by bwgood77 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:47 pm

I don't think anyone in the Phx organization or respected Phx media would publicly say they wanted to go after Thad Young even if it were true. That wouldn't exactly instill confidence in the current players. GMs always deny these types of rumors.
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Post#1185 » by thamadkant » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:12 am

JDLAW wrote:
charara13 wrote:The Young news alot of people know its true. Go search up Thaddeus Young Suns on google many sites show up about the rumors im a Suns fan myself i think i know whats going on lol

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I live here in the valley and monitor things very closely - there has never been any interest expressed by the Suns in Thad Young or Evans. The Suns have denied they would make such moves, but I am sure you have better information there in Michigan than we do here.



Unless you are part of the Suns FO... With inside info... Or influence to the management...

You need to chill and not make another fan feel isolated or ignorant... He obviously is just going forth with information available in the net and what most of RealGM fans do... Speculate based on online news and info.
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Post#1186 » by JDLAW » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:13 am

I agree with what you are saying, but media have their sources and I have not heard a peep from the local ones that break Suns player movement i.e. Coro or Gambadoro. Both of these have been known to report the Suns interest in other players. Neither of them have done so here.

The only rumors are from Phila who wants to move these players. Whenever I see one-sided "reporting" like this and nothing from our local insiders, I become very skeptical as to whether there is two-way interest in making a deal. I have also looked at the mainstream Phila press (Daily News and Inquirer) and their beat writers and neither talks about Young and/or Turner deal to the Suns or any interest by the Suns in acquiring them.

The poster Charara13 says to Google it and then cites obscure blogs by obscure bloggers, which he has pulled. I do not believe everything I read on the internet that is posted by internet bloggers and do not find any of his cites credible. They appear to me to be nothing more than some internet bloggers who have no information, but reports from unnamed "sources".

In fact if you look at a report in today's Phila Daily News by Bob Cooney, he states that "there isn't a GM in the league that would not want Young, but his salary of $9.1 and $9.7 is getting in the way of any movement of him. I would tend him over some obscure internet bloggers who put out pure conjecture a couple of weeks ago and would also tend to believe that his salary would get in the way of the Suns acquiring him.
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Post#1187 » by JDLAW » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:20 am

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JDLAW wrote:
charara13 wrote:The Young news alot of people know its true. Go search up Thaddeus Young Suns on google many sites show up about the rumors im a Suns fan myself i think i know whats going on lol

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I live here in the valley and monitor things very closely - there has never been any interest expressed by the Suns in Thad Young or Evans. The Suns have denied they would make such moves, but I am sure you have better information there in Michigan than we do here.



Unless you are part of the Suns FO... With inside info... Or influence to the management...

You need to chill and not make another fan feel isolated or ignorant... He obviously is just going forth with information available in the net and what most of RealGM fans do... Speculate based on online news and info.


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Post#1188 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:46 am

Should i get everyone in this forum to clap for you or something lol?

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Post#1189 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:47 am

Im not arguing with his opinion im just saying what i have to say whether your offended or not lol. Dont need to cry about a topic

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Post#1190 » by thamadkant » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:08 am

Lol at JDLAW... Firstly you acted so defensive that you belittled another suns fan because he lived in Michigan and you were local so it automatically meant you know more...

So I told you to chill at that...

And now you act defensive for me saying I think you need to chill..



Is it your period week or something.


Your $hit stinks as much as everyone else's here...
You are just fan nothing more nothing less..

Quiet frankly I will tell you my opinion whether you like it or not because this is a public forum and you decided to belittle someone publicly so I'm doing the same thing by posting my opinion on what you did and what you should do.

Whether you do it or not... I don't a give a $&@k. I did it because I could.

You need to know you aren't special enough to be judge and jury of anything around here... It's free forum for fans.
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Post#1191 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:20 am

I wasnt complaining about you. Thats what i was trying to say just because your local doesnt automatically mean your correct. Honestly please im not trying to argue im just a fan talking with other fans

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Post#1192 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:33 am

Agreed

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Post#1193 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:02 am

JDLAW wrote:I agree with what you are saying, but media have their sources and I have not heard a peep from the local ones that break Suns player movement i.e. Coro or Gambadoro. Both of these have been known to report the Suns interest in other players. Neither of them have done so here.

The only rumors are from Phila who wants to move these players. Whenever I see one-sided "reporting" like this and nothing from our local insiders, I become very skeptical as to whether there is two-way interest in making a deal. I have also looked at the mainstream Phila press (Daily News and Inquirer) and their beat writers and neither talks about Young and/or Turner deal to the Suns or any interest by the Suns in acquiring them.

The poster Charara13 says to Google it and then cites obscure blogs by obscure bloggers, which he has pulled. I do not believe everything I read on the internet that is posted by internet bloggers and do not find any of his cites credible. They appear to me to be nothing more than some internet bloggers who have no information, but reports from unnamed "sources".

In fact if you look at a report in today's Phila Daily News by Bob Cooney, he states that "there isn't a GM in the league that would not want Young, but his salary of $9.1 and $9.7 is getting in the way of any movement of him. I would tend him over some obscure internet bloggers who put out pure conjecture a couple of weeks ago and would also tend to believe that his salary would get in the way of the Suns acquiring him.


I do agree not to put much credence in any rumors, but Zach Lowe (who I understand you don't respect) also said (in addition to that extremely questionable Philly source) that during the Asik discussions that the Suns were trying to work a deal (where they would not get Asik) to get Young. I don't think he would just throw this out there. He rarely throws out trade rumors. Again, I know you think that is BS, but that was another person who mentioned the Young interest other than the Philly source. So if people decide to think Lowe is credible and just wouldn't make it up, I think it makes sense. Young does make some sense on this team (being younger with a youth movement), though lately Frye has been on fire, so maybe it doesn't as much as sense as McD thought it did (if he indeed did).

But I do agree that there is no need to talk to other posters as if they don't know what they are talking about...if anything this should be attributed directly to Lowe. I don't think such a deal makes total sense for all the teams unless perhaps 4 teams were involved though, because I doubt Philly wants Asik, and I assume, if there was a deal talked about, it involved Philly getting a pick or two from us, Houston getting Frye and us getting Young. I do like Young, but the way Frye is playing, and is veteran leadership he could provide at likely a reasonable salary, probably doesn't make much sense.

Obviously there are other scenarios that could have been discussed, like the Morris twins going to either Houston or Philly, but I'm guessing Houston would want Frye if they moved Asik to possibly back up Howard and hit threes if he played alongside him.
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Post#1194 » by DirtyDez » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:03 am

I think either PJ or one/both of the twins won't be here next season. They're solid players but we need a quality forward on the wing. Their lack of athleticism shows and none of them can handle the ball or set others up.

If PJ would agree to a 1-year deal for peanuts I'm all for it but he can go elsewhere if a team values him more. I would strongly be against re-signing the twins cause we'd be stuck with them for the duration. Kieff would need grief counseling if they were split up in the future.

I know it was one bad game but they've never done much for me. If we could get Hayward for the Bros and Pacers' pick I'd be for it. Kieff's numbers are declining with Len back anyway and Tucker could back up Hayward or play together.
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Post#1195 » by Revived » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:22 am

I remember Adrian Woj once tweeted this and I always remember it... "Usually if you hear a team is in talks with another team for a player, it means that the talks are dead and that the deal likely won't ever happen. The trades that happen are the ones that you least expect and the ones that you rarely heard about"

So if the Suns have been linked to Young....I'd say that it probably won't happen. But hey, I'm just completely spectating. I don't live in Phoenix and neither do I have sources in the Suns FO :D
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Post#1196 » by gaspar » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:57 am

bwgood77 wrote:
JDLAW wrote:I agree with what you are saying, but media have their sources and I have not heard a peep from the local ones that break Suns player movement i.e. Coro or Gambadoro. Both of these have been known to report the Suns interest in other players. Neither of them have done so here.

The only rumors are from Phila who wants to move these players. Whenever I see one-sided "reporting" like this and nothing from our local insiders, I become very skeptical as to whether there is two-way interest in making a deal. I have also looked at the mainstream Phila press (Daily News and Inquirer) and their beat writers and neither talks about Young and/or Turner deal to the Suns or any interest by the Suns in acquiring them.

The poster Charara13 says to Google it and then cites obscure blogs by obscure bloggers, which he has pulled. I do not believe everything I read on the internet that is posted by internet bloggers and do not find any of his cites credible. They appear to me to be nothing more than some internet bloggers who have no information, but reports from unnamed "sources".

In fact if you look at a report in today's Phila Daily News by Bob Cooney, he states that "there isn't a GM in the league that would not want Young, but his salary of $9.1 and $9.7 is getting in the way of any movement of him. I would tend him over some obscure internet bloggers who put out pure conjecture a couple of weeks ago and would also tend to believe that his salary would get in the way of the Suns acquiring him.


I do agree not to put much credence in any rumors, but Zach Lowe (who I understand you don't respect) also said (in addition to that extremely questionable Philly source) that during the Asik discussions that the Suns were trying to work a deal (where they would not get Asik) to get Young. I don't think he would just throw this out there. He rarely throws out trade rumors. Again, I know you think that is BS, but that was another person who mentioned the Young interest other than the Philly source. So if people decide to think Lowe is credible and just wouldn't make it up, I think it makes sense. Young does make some sense on this team (being younger with a youth movement), though lately Frye has been on fire, so maybe it doesn't as much as sense as McD thought it did (if he indeed did).

But I do agree that there is no need to talk to other posters as if they don't know what they are talking about...if anything this should be attributed directly to Lowe. I don't think such a deal makes total sense for all the teams unless perhaps 4 teams were involved though, because I doubt Philly wants Asik, and I assume, if there was a deal talked about, it involved Philly getting a pick or two from us, Houston getting Frye and us getting Young. I do like Young, but the way Frye is playing, and is veteran leadership he could provide at likely a reasonable salary, probably doesn't make much sense.

Obviously there are other scenarios that could have been discussed, like the Morris twins going to either Houston or Philly, but I'm guessing Houston would want Frye if they moved Asik to possibly back up Howard and hit threes if he played alongside him.

No, he didn't. Lowe wrote:

"Phoenix started the season with eyes on the top of the draft, and they were ready to use Channing Frye, a crucial floor-spacer, in various three-team trades centered around Omer Asik, per several league sources familiar with those talks. (Phoenix would not have received Asik in those deals.)".

No mention of Philly or Thad Young.
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Post#1197 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:31 pm

Hi

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Post#1198 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:31 pm

I agree

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Post#1199 » by charara13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:34 pm

Suns should keep PJ Tucker hes a consistent three point shooter and plus hes a very great on defender. I agree with you if they can find a better option than him than let him go. Suns have over 38 Million and 3 first round draft picks i think they can really pull something off whether its trade deadline or offseason

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Post#1200 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:43 pm

gaspar wrote: No, he didn't. Lowe wrote:

"Phoenix started the season with eyes on the top of the draft, and they were ready to use Channing Frye, a crucial floor-spacer, in various three-team trades centered around Omer Asik, per several league sources familiar with those talks. (Phoenix would not have received Asik in those deals.)".

No mention of Philly or Thad Young.


My bad. That was my speculation after the other person mentioning we were interested in Young around the same time as Lowe saying that. Forgive my horrible memory.

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