2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II

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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#501 » by RoyceDa59 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:41 am

Durant is posting 31 on 51 / 42 / 88 shooting. Throw in 8 board, 5 dimes, 2 steals and a block, and add that the Thunder have the 2nd best record in the league (36-10).

The MVP is KD's to lose at this point.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#502 » by bryanoid » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:43 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:Durant is posting 31 on 51 / 42 / 88 shooting. Throw in 8 board, 5 dimes, 2 steals and a block, and add that the Thunder have the 2nd best record in the league (36-10).

The MVP is KD's to lose at this point.

Scrub can't even hit 90% on FT's :curse:


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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#503 » by Hero » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:06 am

I'm surprised how close people in the media seem to have it between KD and LeBron.

A couple losses for OKC and I could see them jumping on LBJ's bandwagon. This head to head game is huge.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#504 » by bbms » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:14 am

I take those defensive stats with a grain of salt. His opp. PPP and FG% are largely influenced by the fact that the Thunder is the second in the league in opp. FG% at the rim, which is much owed to Ibaka's ability to alter shots at the rim and Collison's splendid defensive awareness.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#505 » by hisairness » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:27 am

Hero wrote:I'm surprised how close people in the media seem to have it between KD and LeBron.

A couple losses for OKC and I could see them jumping on LBJ's bandwagon. This head to head game is huge.


With the way media ppl vote, I feel like this is a fixed championship boxing fight, with Bron as the champ and Durant the challenger. No matter how much it seems he is outboxing the champ he will still lose if he doesn't get the knockout and it goes to a decision. All it takes is for champ to connect couple of times.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#506 » by Wall34 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:25 am

Yeah it shouldn't be that close right now imo...I think alot of kneejerk reactions will happen after the Miami vs OKC game on both sides.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#507 » by Patterned919 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:31 am

All of his stats keep climbing.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#508 » by kingkirk » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:26 am

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Ozark wrote:In other news, Nick Collison continues to lead the league in RAPM.

Apparently he's been the best basketball player in the world for several years now, and yet none of you knuckleheads ever throw him in to the MVP conversation.

I know this is in jest, but I'm sure there's a better backup big in the NBA. Well..I'm sure there is, but I'm not sure I'd take any of them over Collison. He just does so many little things that don't really translate to impressive boxscore numbers. Great thing about him is that, despite already being 33 years old, he has the type of game where he will still be really productive and reliable for another 3-5 years.


As a Bulls fan, i take Taj Gibson but Nick Collison is just a damn professional and the exact type of player or unsung hero that every championship team needs.

There is a reason he has only played for one team his entire career (i am including Seattle here) despite being a 'expendable' role player.

One of the smartest players in the game. A great team guy.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#509 » by bondom34 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:35 pm

I finally got around to looking up his on/off numbers with the team, the points per possesion differences are pretty decent when you consider he's a role player. His chemistry, especially with the young guys, is huge. I remember hearing on a broadcast early in the year about his work at practice w/ Lamb, and you can really tell Lamb seems so much more confident w/ Collison out there. A few PPP numbers:

Collison On:
Ibaka: 1.30
Lamb: 1.16
PJ III: 1.47
KD: 1.34


Off:
Ibaka: 1.09
Lamb: 1.11
PJ III: 0.93
KD: 1.20
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#510 » by ThePersianFreak » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:36 pm

If LeBron wants to have any chance, he MUST outplaye KD tonight other than that, it's all but over for LeBron.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#511 » by Hero » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:55 pm

LeBron-FTW wrote:If LeBron wants to have any chance, he MUST outplaye KD tonight other than that, it's all but over for LeBron.



44 games into a 82 game season. It's not all over no matter what happens tonight.
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Post#512 » by Benedict_Boozer » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:18 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Durant is posting 31 on 51 / 42 / 88 shooting. Throw in 8 board, 5 dimes, 2 steals and a block, and add that the Thunder have the 2nd best record in the league (36-10).

The MVP is KD's to lose at this point.


Those numbers are scary good :o
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#513 » by xBulletproof » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:55 pm

I'm not sure what some people's obsession over head to head games are in the scheme of an MVP year. Lebron and KD play each other twice a year. They play other people 80 times per year. Nobody is going to give a damn who beat who or outplayed who in 2 games. It's just an odd type of logic.

Being an MVP is about far more than 2 games can weigh.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#514 » by WinisKing » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:29 pm

Hero wrote:
LeBron-FTW wrote:If LeBron wants to have any chance, he MUST outplaye KD tonight other than that, it's all but over for LeBron.



44 games into a 82 game season. It's not all over no matter what happens tonight.

True, but lets not assume KD will have a big drop off during the 2nd half of the season, even if Lebron starts to coast less, he probably won't catch up to whatever KD has achieved and will achieve
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#515 » by theokie » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:55 pm

Lets all agree not to freak out and declare that its over either way depending on who wins tonight?

Sound good?







I realize theres no hope of this.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#516 » by WinisKing » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:05 am

theokie wrote:Lets all agree not to freak out and declare that its over either way depending on who wins tonight?

Sound good?







I realize theres no hope of this.

I love Lebron, but the MVP race is about 99.9% over for him if he drops this game against Durant. On the bright side however, if he does drop it, more focus on the playoff
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#517 » by mojay641 » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:14 am

durant destroying lebron lmao. embarrassing.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#518 » by laika » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:21 am

theokie wrote:Lets all agree not to freak out and declare that its over either way depending on who wins tonight?

Sound good?







I realize theres no hope of this.


It's not technically over, but it almost is. Durant has better stats, a better record, a big H2H win, and people are sick of giving Lebron the mvp.

It would take a huge turnaround in the second half of the season for Durant to lose the MVP.
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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#519 » by fallacy » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:34 am

Alright, any more excuses?

33 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 50+% shooting, 20+ point win


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Re: 2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt II 

Post#520 » by WinisKing » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:35 am

fallacy wrote:Alright, any more excuses?

33 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 50+% shooting, 20+ point win


GG

But he did not outplay Lebron by any stretch individually, you can't have that claim :lol:

But yeah, MVP race is over
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