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Marty McFly wrote:BossHoggin wrote:how exactly are you getting Kyrie. You have no assets and he's not turning down max money for a qo.AmazingJason wrote:If he stays in school:
Embiid
Melo
Hardaway
Afflalo
Irving/Rondo
not unless you're his agent you've got no way of knowing that. penciling both embiid and irving or rondo is quite the stretch though.
sdballer wrote:dakomish wrote:NY gets:
Josh Smith
Rondo
Boston gets:
Singler
Amare
Shump
Knicks 2018 1Top 10 protected st rd pick
Pistons get:
Jeff Green
Raymond Felton
What a steal for Boston: A bloated contract next year, a pick in 5 seasons and two meh prospects. Hey guys, probably not going to get one let alone two star level players for these types of packages.
moocow007 wrote:Marty McFly wrote:BossHoggin wrote:how exactly are you getting Kyrie. You have no assets and he's not turning down max money for a qo.
not unless you're his agent you've got no way of knowing that. penciling both embiid and irving or rondo is quite the stretch though.
The chances of these two guys figuring out a way to do this is about as likely as everyone in this thread winning lotto.
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles
Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
jwise44 wrote:Dbloc123 wrote:Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao
Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton
Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson
Knicks
Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler
This is comically bad
Dbloc123 wrote:jwise44 wrote:Dbloc123 wrote:Knicks trade Tyson, Shumpert,felton
Knicks get kyrie, Varejao
Cleavland Trade, Kyrie,Varejao
Cleavland Gets, Okafor exp, 2 first rounders (2014), felton
Phx Trades okafor, 2 picks (2014) and they still keep this years lakers pick
Phx gets shump, tyson
Knicks
Kyrie
Timmy
jr
Melo
Kmart/Tyler
This is comically bad
How???
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:Shump, udrih for tony wrotten and 2nd rounder
MCW and SHUMP could be a solid defensive back court
Lets say philly gets a top 3 pick you could potentially be adding parker or wiggins
To that young back court
Wrotten is a nice pickup he can break down the defense, get out in transition and attack the basket
Wrotten
Pablo
Jr
Melo
Tyson
Felton
Hardaway
Metta
Amare
Kmart
jwise44 wrote:Dbloc123 wrote:jwise44 wrote:This is comically bad
How???
Felton is a net negative with 3 years left, shump is having a bad season, and Tyson is having a bad season
That doesn't get u Kyrie, much less Kyrie AND varejao
I mean u don't even try and add ur 2018 pick???? Which wouldn't make the deal any better
Not even in 2k14
jwise44 wrote:Still won't get u Kyrie or Kyrie and varejao?
It's not a good trade....phx is giving ALL the value to Cleveland
Go post it in the trade thread or on the Cleveland or phx board and see what EVERYONE, including other Knicks fans will say
(And by the way I'm a HUGE fan of the Knicks)
Dbloc123 wrote:jwise44 wrote:Still won't get u Kyrie or Kyrie and varejao?
It's not a good trade....phx is giving ALL the value to Cleveland
Go post it in the trade thread or on the Cleveland or phx board and see what EVERYONE, including other Knicks fans will say
(And by the way I'm a HUGE fan of the Knicks)
Remember in the past Phx has never cared about picks..... And it doesnt matter what fans think its what the organization feels at the time... phx is having a great unexpecting season they may want to go all in...
sdballer wrote:Wonderllama wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lcrebl2
Knicks get:
Andre Iguodala
Harrison Barnes
Klay Thompson
Warriors get:
Carmelo Anthony
I think GSW will be desperate for a trade... they're 7th in the West (would be 3rd in the East)
That's better than what Melo was traded for last time. Pretty sure his trade value isn't increasing.
jwise44 wrote:Dbloc123 wrote:jwise44 wrote:Still won't get u Kyrie or Kyrie and varejao?
It's not a good trade....phx is giving ALL the value to Cleveland
Go post it in the trade thread or on the Cleveland or phx board and see what EVERYONE, including other Knicks fans will say
(And by the way I'm a HUGE fan of the Knicks)
Remember in the past Phx has never cared about picks..... And it doesnt matter what fans think its what the organization feels at the time... phx is having a great unexpecting season they may want to go all in...
(Phx said they wana trade their picks for a STAR, not a glass center and a 3 and d guy who are both having bad years)
Done talking about this...a trade between phx and ny makes sense actually. Don't know what phx would give for Tyson and/or shump but I could see something there
Cleveland isn't trading Kyrie though. Even if there are rumors he's upset. And if they do there will be a ton of teams offering better packages
Dbloc123 wrote:jwise44 wrote:Dbloc123 wrote:
Remember in the past Phx has never cared about picks..... And it doesnt matter what fans think its what the organization feels at the time... phx is having a great unexpecting season they may want to go all in...
(Phx said they wana trade their picks for a STAR, not a glass center and a 3 and d guy who are both having bad years)
Done talking about this...a trade between phx and ny makes sense actually. Don't know what phx would give for Tyson and/or shump but I could see something there
Cleveland isn't trading Kyrie though. Even if there are rumors he's upset. And if they do there will be a ton of teams offering better packages
So Gasol is still a star?? Please
Johnny Hoops wrote:This one works for PHX NY.....
Chandler/Shump for Okafor/Plumlee/Goodwin/2014 #1 pick
At this point I'd take my chances with young/big/athletic Plumlee and the pick -- also think Goodwin may have more upside than Shump down the road.
Trade gives PHX (2) legit defenders/pieces that would fit around Gragic/Bledsoe both this year and next few years.
Gives NY some new blood and ships Capri pants & Texas Triangle out of town.
navyblue wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:This one works for PHX NY.....
Chandler/Shump for Okafor/Plumlee/Goodwin/2014 #1 pick
At this point I'd take my chances with young/big/athletic Plumlee and the pick -- also think Goodwin may have more upside than Shump down the road.
Trade gives PHX (2) legit defenders/pieces that would fit around Gragic/Bledsoe both this year and next few years.
Gives NY some new blood and ships Capri pants & Texas Triangle out of town.
lakers are asking so much less for gasol, why would phx choose this over that.
navyblue wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:This one works for PHX NY.....
Chandler/Shump for Okafor/Plumlee/Goodwin/2014 #1 pick
At this point I'd take my chances with young/big/athletic Plumlee and the pick -- also think Goodwin may have more upside than Shump down the road.
Trade gives PHX (2) legit defenders/pieces that would fit around Gragic/Bledsoe both this year and next few years.
Gives NY some new blood and ships Capri pants & Texas Triangle out of town.
lakers are asking so much less for gasol, why would phx choose this over that.
jwise44 wrote:dakomish wrote:sdballer wrote:
What a steal for Boston: A bloated contract next year, a pick in 5 seasons and two meh prospects. Hey guys, probably not going to get one let alone two star level players for these types of packages.
A. Boston is trying to dump Jeff Green's contract
B. Detroit is trying to dump Josh Smith
C. A bloated expiring contract that gives them loads of cap space in 2015.
D. I didn't see Ainge worry about picks in 2018 from the Nets.
E. That doesn't mean it's a good trade
