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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#141 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 10:53 pm

kneega wrote:
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kneega wrote:I wonder what Rondos market is today....

Kinda small imo, as pretty much every team in the league has a starter quality point guard or someone else that handles that duty.

I was of belief earlier in the year the pacers could have flipped Grangers expiring contract with a draft pick for Rondo, and he's definitely an upgrade over George Hill.

Outside of that i'd say probably just us.


Game two vs Miami on the road 2012 ECF:

44 pts 8rbs, 10asst, 3stls, shot 66% 16/24 and 10 of 12 from the free throw line.... No player in NBA history put that line up...
Muchless a point guard...

I'm sure there's a couple other teams who would consider Rondo a major upgrade....


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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#142 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 8, 2014 10:58 pm

kneega wrote:
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kneega wrote:I wonder what Rondos market is today....

Kinda small imo, as pretty much every team in the league has a starter quality point guard or someone else that handles that duty.

I was of belief earlier in the year the pacers could have flipped Grangers expiring contract with a draft pick for Rondo, and he's definitely an upgrade over George Hill.

Outside of that i'd say probably just us.


Game two vs Miami on the road 2012 ECF:

44 pts 8rbs, 10asst, 3stls, shot 66% 16/24 and 10 of 12 from the free throw line.... No player in NBA history put that line up...
Muchless a point guard...

I'm sure there's a couple other teams who would consider Rondo a major upgrade....

Sure they would, I'm sure Miami would trade Chalmers for Rondo....but thats not really how it works though, it's not about the individual all the time but how and if they fit with that current team....but we'll find out soon enough because we'll hear the rumors.

But what we do know is almost every team in the league has a starter quality pg in place or someone who handles that duty.

That game from rondo was not a normal occurrence, and it certainly doesnt indicate his capability, although I will say Rondo does step up in the playoffs which is a great trait to have.
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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#143 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:09 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Kinda small imo, as pretty much every team in the league has a starter quality point guard or someone else that handles that duty.

I was of belief earlier in the year the pacers could have flipped Grangers expiring contract with a draft pick for Rondo, and he's definitely an upgrade over George Hill.

Outside of that i'd say probably just us.


Game two vs Miami on the road 2012 ECF:

44 pts 8rbs, 10asst, 3stls, shot 66% 16/24 and 10 of 12 from the free throw line.... No player in NBA history put that line up...
Muchless a point guard...

I'm sure there's a couple other teams who would consider Rondo a major upgrade....

Sure they would, I'm sure Miami would trade Chalmers for Rondo....but thats not really how it works though, it's not about the individual all the time but how and if they fit with that current team....but we'll find out soon enough because we'll hear the rumors.

But what we do know is almost every team in the league has a starter quality pg in place or someone who handles that duty.

That game from rondo was not a normal occurrence, and it certainly doesnt indicate his capability, although I will say Rondo does step up in the playoffs which is a great trait to have.

I think there are some teams out there that will give up at least 2 unprotected firsts for him...

Our edge could be that we can clear 19 million in 2015 for Boston....
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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#144 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:11 pm

In time we'll see.
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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#145 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:12 pm

Kings were offering Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks. We have nothing comparable to that. It's not even an option.
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Post#146 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:13 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Kings were offering Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks. We have nothing comparable to that. It's not even an option.

U don't know what they really offered...
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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#147 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:14 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Kings were offering Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks. We have nothing comparable to that. It's not even an option.


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Post#148 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:16 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:Kings were offering Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks. We have nothing comparable to that. It's not even an option.


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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#150 » by BasicBall » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:23 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-rumors-sacramento-kings-reportedly-trying-trade-rajon-174100584--nba.html


No matter what the offer, when Ainge mentioned it to Rondo, Rajon rolled his eyes and said, they can trade for me, but I am not signing long term with them. Conversation ended! Rondo is a different kind of cat, he's not just going any old place. Ainge knows this!
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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#151 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:23 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-rumors-sacramento-kings-reportedly-trying-trade-rajon-174100584--nba.html


From that link:

The latest team to be thrown into the Rondo rumors? Strangely enough, the Sacramento Kings, according to the Latino Post. The team that just traded for Rudy Gay would be throwing a huge amount of its roster at the Celtics in this proposal, where Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks would be swapped for Rondo.
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Post#152 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:26 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Kings were offering Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, Marcus Thornton, Jason Thompson, and two first-round picks. We have nothing comparable to that. It's not even an option.


That deal was bogus on all fronts....even as far as the pick goes they cant offer a draft pick for quite a while...

http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Kings.htm
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Post#153 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:27 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-rumors-sacramento-kings-reportedly-trying-trade-rajon-174100584--nba.html


No matter what the offer, when Ainge mentioned it to Rondo, Rajon rolled his eyes and said, they can trade for me, but I am not signing long term with them. Conversation ended! Rondo is a different kind of cat, he's not just going any old place. Ainge knows this!

That's definitely another piece in a potential deal...

So we got:

1. team fit
2. Rondo has to approve it
3. Team must be able to clear 2015 salary
4. Talent and/picks need to be available to trade to Celtics

Did I miss anything?
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Post#154 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:31 pm

Rockets, pistons and Knicks fit the criteria...
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Post#155 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:33 pm

The more I think about it thug I think I have to agree with what you were alluding to...
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Post#156 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:33 pm

kneega wrote:
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Rasho Brezec wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-rumors-sacramento-kings-reportedly-trying-trade-rajon-174100584--nba.html


No matter what the offer, when Ainge mentioned it to Rondo, Rajon rolled his eyes and said, they can trade for me, but I am not signing long term with them. Conversation ended! Rondo is a different kind of cat, he's not just going any old place. Ainge knows this!

That's definitely another piece in a potential deal...

So we got:

1. team fit
2. Rondo has to approve it
3. Team must be able to clear 2015 salary
4. Talent and/picks need to be available to trade to Celtics

Did I miss anything?

The main piece imo, Boston currently has no reason to deal with us....imo Rondo would have to pull a "Melo".

They have a ton of picks that they could package with a bad contract and move it themselves.
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Post#157 » by Capn'O » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:35 pm

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Re: Knicks are "hoping against hope" to pull off trade for R 

Post#158 » by Marty McFly » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:36 pm

melo and rondo seem to be good friends, so, they should consider sending melo to boston for all them picks they got.
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Post#159 » by Context » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:38 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
kneega wrote:
BasicBall wrote:
No matter what the offer, when Ainge mentioned it to Rondo, Rajon rolled his eyes and said, they can trade for me, but I am not signing long term with them. Conversation ended! Rondo is a different kind of cat, he's not just going any old place. Ainge knows this!

That's definitely another piece in a potential deal...

So we got:

1. team fit
2. Rondo has to approve it
3. Team must be able to clear 2015 salary
4. Talent and/picks need to be available to trade to Celtics

Did I miss anything?

The main piece imo, Boston currently has no reason to deal with us....imo Rondo would have to pull a "Melo".

They have a ton of picks that they could package with a bad contract and move it themselves.


I think its more of "if the Celtics really want to deal rondo" if they do we have the pieces to get in done when you put it all in context...
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Post#160 » by Marty McFly » Sat Feb 8, 2014 11:41 pm

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