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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#681 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:03 am

Ranma wrote:Suspending the notion of not trading with interdivision (and even hated) rivals, I'm wondering if the following possibilities would be helpful:

With talk of the Suns looking at Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph for their postseason run, I'm curious if they would be interested in bringing back Jared Dudley who was last effective with them.

Also, the Grizzlies are apparently interested in a small forward. Would a package of Dudley & Mullens entice them to part with Ed Davis & Jamaal Franklin?


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Post#682 » by Ranma » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:58 am

mttwlsn16 wrote:We can't trade Dud back to PHX this year


Thanks. I forgot.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#683 » by QRich3 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:54 am

Wammy Giveaway wrote:Be careful where you get your sources for the next two weeks. There is a Sportscenter report going around that the Clippers are willing to trade Jamal Crawford to acquire that third big. Some reports even claim that the Clippers want Luou Deng.

First, Crawford is not getting traded. This was confirmed by LA CLIPCAST through a DM.

Second, Luou Deng has a claim clause on his contract. He cannot be traded for two months. The only way they can get Deng is if the Cavs buy out his contract.

The only true report is the Dudley trade proposal.

Names that have popped up include Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, Iman Shumpert, Ron Artest, Glen Davis, Kendrick Perkins, Omer Asik and Matt Bonner.

Deng can be traded, but not in combination with other players, he has to be the only outgoing player from the Cavs. Which, with the salary he's making, would be the most likely thing anyway. But we can't possibly trade for Deng this season, we are hard capped at the apron because of using the whole MLE, so unless we send them Blake, Paul or DJ, there's no reasonable way we can make salaries match.

I know you all hate Dudley and I'm the only remaining guy here that believes in him, but even then, you should agree that trading a player when he's at an all time low value is not a good idea. We are a young team for the most part, we should not take things in a 'win this season at all costs' way. It's ok if we get bounced out early this post season, we are just starting to tap into Blake's and DJ's potential. Even with an aged Paul, our best chance at a championship should be in 2-3 years, not now.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#684 » by Angel strike1 » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:16 pm

Why would griz trade zac?
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#685 » by Forte IV » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:55 am

Wammy Giveaway wrote:Be careful where you get your sources for the next two weeks. There is a Sportscenter report going around that the Clippers are willing to trade Jamal Crawford to acquire that third big. Some reports even claim that the Clippers want Luou Deng.

First, Crawford is not getting traded. This was confirmed by LA CLIPCAST through a DM.

Second, Luou Deng has a claim clause on his contract. He cannot be traded for two months. The only way they can get Deng is if the Cavs buy out his contract.

The only true report is the Dudley trade proposal.

Names that have popped up include Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes, Iman Shumpert, Ron Artest, Glen Davis, Kendrick Perkins, Omer Asik and Matt Bonner.


I'm sorry but ever since you said the Clippers wanted to trade "the farm" for Rudy Gay and used a guy with no credibility on twitter as a reference I can't take you seriously.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#686 » by Wammy Giveaway » Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:54 pm

You don't have to, Super Nova. Nobody takes me seriously, anyway.

But you have to understand that this is trading season. There will be suggestions, some of which are outlandish, impossible, and for lack of a better term, dreaming like the Lakers. Given Doc River's time with Danny Ainge, I have this major tingling that a farm trade could be in the works. It may not be for Rudy Gay anymore - in fact, I've backed off on that thought - but it's going to be for somebody.

The only way all these rumors are going to stop is when the trade deadline passes on Thursday, February 20. On that day, after 12 PM Pacific Coast Time, I will stop all trade ideas.

But do believe me on this: all talks of Griffin for Kevin Durant or Kevin Love are officially dead.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#687 » by Angel strike1 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:25 pm

We can't trade Blake for kd???

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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#688 » by azncorruptedo17 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:19 pm

Wammy Giveaway wrote:But do believe me on this: all talks of Griffin for Kevin Durant or Kevin Love are officially dead.


i'm pretty sure that's a given... lol

i'd like to trade dud/mullens for a backup big... http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mb3pzch maybe even throw them a 2nd rounder just to get rid of them.

i want bullock to have more pt.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#689 » by Forte IV » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:09 pm

I'd take Big Baby in a second
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Need for 3rd Big Man 

Post#690 » by Ranma » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:49 pm

Not much of an epiphany, but Jalen Rose stating the Clips need a legit 3rd big man in the rotation at the 38:48 timestamp as he considers the Clips as contenders with an asterisk until this is resolved. Plus, he be hating on Jared Dudley.

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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#691 » by ejftw » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:07 pm

I don't really want to deal Dudley, but with his play, and tract, he may be the odd man out.

Wonder if we can deal him and Mullens to the Bucks for Ekpe Udoh? Probably not since Udoh expires.

But Zaza Pachulia may seem more of a legit option to get from Milwaukee.

Honestly though, I'd rather get a stop gap and try to trade up for Willey Caulie Stein in the draft. Him and Jordan as our C tandem would be a crazy block party. Then bring back Rhino to bring some post offense.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#692 » by Cracka2Hi » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:36 am

What would you think about Carl Landry? He's not playing many minutes in Sacramento. He has a fairly large contract and they may want to move it. They wouldn't get any value for him. A package that will lighten their salary might be the best they can get. Dudley and Mullens would do that. I'm not sure if there is anything wrong with Landry. If he's healthy and just not playing because they like their other PF's better he might be worth it. He is the guy I wanted the team to get with the MLE. He signed for just over that.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#693 » by mttwlsn16 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:40 pm

I really hope we make a move. Any new rumors?

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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#694 » by kylem4711 » Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:44 pm

i'm seeing some stuff on anderson varejao. i really hope so.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#695 » by okpistolpete » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:17 pm

kylem4711 wrote:i'm seeing some stuff on anderson varejao. i really hope so.


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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#696 » by okpistolpete » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:26 pm

I know I'm alone in this corner, but I do not want to see any trades, at least nothing significant. We have the talent & coaching to beat anybody; it's just a matter of building consistency, playing within the system on both ends of the floor, and maintaining a strong chemistry on and off the court. Those things don't happen with player turnaround.

In my mind, we're adding JJ Redick and he isn't costing us anything. That's good enough for me. I'd love to add a solid backup big, but we aren't going to get anyone great dangling guys like Mullens or even Dudley. It would cost the few assets we have - Bullock, future picks, etc. And I certainly don't want to lose Willie Greene. He's a very underrated part of this team's makeup. When a veteran like that comes in day in and day out, does his job, and doesn't complain if he sits for 10 straight games, that sets the tone for the other guys. It's hard to complain about getting pulled for a few minutes when Willie Greene is still there in a great mood and ready when he's needed.

Now, we do still have the Bledsoe trade exemption, so if we can get a guy with that and/or a second rounder, I'm all for it. But this talk of guys like Varejao and Landry just isn't realistic.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#697 » by Neddy » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:31 am

okpistolpete wrote:I know I'm alone in this corner, but I do not want to see any trades, at least nothing significant. We have the talent & coaching to beat anybody; it's just a matter of building consistency, playing within the system on both ends of the floor, and maintaining a strong chemistry on and off the court. Those things don't happen with player turnaround.

In my mind, we're adding JJ Redick and he isn't costing us anything. That's good enough for me. I'd love to add a solid backup big, but we aren't going to get anyone great dangling guys like Mullens or even Dudley. It would cost the few assets we have - Bullock, future picks, etc. And I certainly don't want to lose Willie Greene. He's a very underrated part of this team's makeup. When a veteran like that comes in day in and day out, does his job, and doesn't complain if he sits for 10 straight games, that sets the tone for the other guys. It's hard to complain about getting pulled for a few minutes when Willie Greene is still there in a great mood and ready when he's needed.

Now, we do still have the Bledsoe trade exemption, so if we can get a guy with that and/or a second rounder, I'm all for it. But this talk of guys like Varejao and Landry just isn't realistic.



you are not alone in this corner.

i don't dislike the idea for Carl Landry, but i highly doubt the kings would want to trade unused PF at 6.5 mil per year for the next 4 years to swap for a even lesser useful SF at 4.5 mil for the next 4. Mullen's have a option he will certainly take, so other than 1 million dollars in salary difference between the parties involved in Cracka's proposal, i don't see much benefits that would motivate kings for such a deal. they are probably not looking for talent in return, but I am sure salary relief for an expiring would be a great deal of interest for them. on the other hand, that trade idea would bring in extra 1 million with 1 roster spot still needs to be filled. vet min and you've got another million-ish. that's now 2 more millions pass the lux tax for DTS. the cheapskate has gone past that line, barely, but doubt he would go 2 more extra to add a bench player with that kind of salary and years.

to add Anderson Varajao, now we are talking dudley plus Jamal. to lose Jamal and add mr. glass? do not want.

what we need is a legit 3rd big who can rebound and play some defense in the low post. that guy is still available. and lives in LA. once the pretty boy's 10 day is up, i hope Doc picks up the phone and call Lamar Odom to join this team and fill out the final roster spot.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#698 » by mttwlsn16 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:48 am

Ya I would still like LO back. We need a big not named Blake or DeAndre who can D up and crash the glass

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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#699 » by Cracka2Hi » Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:02 am

Neddy wrote:
okpistolpete wrote:I know I'm alone in this corner, but I do not want to see any trades, at least nothing significant. We have the talent & coaching to beat anybody; it's just a matter of building consistency, playing within the system on both ends of the floor, and maintaining a strong chemistry on and off the court. Those things don't happen with player turnaround.

In my mind, we're adding JJ Redick and he isn't costing us anything. That's good enough for me. I'd love to add a solid backup big, but we aren't going to get anyone great dangling guys like Mullens or even Dudley. It would cost the few assets we have - Bullock, future picks, etc. And I certainly don't want to lose Willie Greene. He's a very underrated part of this team's makeup. When a veteran like that comes in day in and day out, does his job, and doesn't complain if he sits for 10 straight games, that sets the tone for the other guys. It's hard to complain about getting pulled for a few minutes when Willie Greene is still there in a great mood and ready when he's needed.

Now, we do still have the Bledsoe trade exemption, so if we can get a guy with that and/or a second rounder, I'm all for it. But this talk of guys like Varejao and Landry just isn't realistic.



you are not alone in this corner.

i don't dislike the idea for Carl Landry, but i highly doubt the kings would want to trade unused PF at 6.5 mil per year for the next 4 years to swap for a even lesser useful SF at 4.5 mil for the next 4. Mullen's have a option he will certainly take, so other than 1 million dollars in salary difference between the parties involved in Cracka's proposal, i don't see much benefits that would motivate kings for such a deal. they are probably not looking for talent in return, but I am sure salary relief for an expiring would be a great deal of interest for them. on the other hand, that trade idea would bring in extra 1 million with 1 roster spot still needs to be filled. vet min and you've got another million-ish. that's now 2 more millions pass the lux tax for DTS. the cheapskate has gone past that line, barely, but doubt he would go 2 more extra to add a bench player with that kind of salary and years.

to add Anderson Varajao, now we are talking dudley plus Jamal. to lose Jamal and add mr. glass? do not want.

what we need is a legit 3rd big who can rebound and play some defense in the low post. that guy is still available. and lives in LA. once the pretty boy's 10 day is up, i hope Doc picks up the phone and call Lamar Odom to join this team and fill out the final roster spot.

I thought Dudley had 1 year left on his contract after this year. I looked it up and he actually has 2 left after this. So it would get the Kings off the hook for 1 year of Landry's contract which probably wouldn't be enough incentive for them. I was more concerned with your point about Sterling not want to take on Landry's contract. It's probably a trade neither team would want LOL!

It wont surprise me to see the team pull something off. I think Lamar is probably stoned or coked out of his mind or he'd be on a contending team right now. I do think the team needs another big and probably someone better than Lamar.
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Re: Trade Idea Thread II 

Post#700 » by QRich3 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:51 pm

Landry is overpaid, he's a bad contract now. He'd be overpaid if he accepted the MLE we offered him, and he certainly is when they offered him a million more. We dodged a bullet there, I don't think we want to be giving away assets to shoot ourselves in the foot again. Plus, we don't need a high profile 3rd big, there's probably only gonna be 10-15 minutes a game available for whoever we sign. If there's something available for the Bled TPE and a 2nd we should definitely be exploring it, if not, let's roll with waht we have.

Having last year's Odom would be a big boost for us and would leave us very close to any contender, but I don't think that guy exists anymore. We are giving 10 day contracts to every washed up has-been available, if we haven't offered him one is probably because he can't play basketball anymore.

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