Boxing Thread 4.0

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Post#261 » by skflives » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:35 pm

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skflives wrote:With that being said I wouldn't mind seeing Amir Khan vs. Adrien Broner on the undercard. With Mayweather vs. Maidana now confirmed both guys are looking for a dance partner and a big payday. It makes sense to match them up.

It is a great fight but both fighters have too much to lose and is a main event level fight in itself.



Yea but the same things could have been said about Garcia/Mattheyse.
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Post#262 » by GS Warriors 1 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:09 am

Between Maidana and Khan getting the fight, the right choice was made. Khan is coming off a bad performance with a guy that he was supposed to look great against, it would've been a joke if he was chosen.
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Post#263 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:28 am

So Mayweather trolls the boxing fans once again. He puts up a BS poll to let the fans decide. Khan wins, but yet Maidana gets the fight anyway.

Not that I have a problem with it, it's just kind of funny to me.
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Post#264 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:33 am

skflives wrote:I agree. If Mayweather was limiting himself to 147lbers Maidana is probably the best available choice in terms of accomplishments, availability, credibility amongst fans and danger. And oh man I just loved it when Khan tweeted that he should have taken the fight with Alexander. Serves the loudmouth right. He needed to earn his shot at Floyd. But no, he ducked Alexander to maintain his status as an option for Floyd and for what. He sat on his butt for months, turned down a title fight and watched the guy he was supposed to fight lose his belt AND no Floyd. Serves him right. Time to start fighting real 147 pounders Khan.


Eh, you're too hard on Khan. He was chasing a fight that he thought he had a legit shot at getting. Let's face it, Mayweather was really close to picking Khan. The reason why it took him so long to decide was because he realized the kind of backlash he would have received had he chosen him.
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Post#265 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:36 am

Blame Rasho wrote:Chavez/Vera fight happening this week... meh...

I am more interested in the undercard fight with Lomenchenko vs Salido... I think Lomenchenko will show us some history...


If Lomenchenko beats Salido in impressive fashion, he gets put on the fast track for Rigo.
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Post#266 » by skflives » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:18 pm

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skflives wrote:I agree. If Mayweather was limiting himself to 147lbers Maidana is probably the best available choice in terms of accomplishments, availability, credibility amongst fans and danger. And oh man I just loved it when Khan tweeted that he should have taken the fight with Alexander. Serves the loudmouth right. He needed to earn his shot at Floyd. But no, he ducked Alexander to maintain his status as an option for Floyd and for what. He sat on his butt for months, turned down a title fight and watched the guy he was supposed to fight lose his belt AND no Floyd. Serves him right. Time to start fighting real 147 pounders Khan.


Eh, you're too hard on Khan. He was chasing a fight that he thought he had a legit shot at getting. Let's face it, Mayweather was really close to picking Khan. The reason why it took him so long to decide was because he realized the kind of backlash he would have received had he chosen him.


Sorry. Whatever his reasons it didn't change the facts of the situation. The Alexander fight would have taken place with plenty of time to prepare for a May fight with Mayweather. He punked out of the alexander fight because he didn't want to risk the fight with Mayweather. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Its his own damned fault. He fights Alexander and takes his title then a fight with Mayweather has a real buzz. There could be no buzz for a fight with Mayweather after Khan's last two wins.
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Post#267 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:09 pm

skflives wrote:Sorry. Whatever his reasons it didn't change the facts of the situation. The Alexander fight would have taken place with plenty of time to prepare for a May fight with Mayweather. He punked out of the alexander fight because he didn't want to risk the fight with Mayweather. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Its his own damned fault. He fights Alexander and takes his title then a fight with Mayweather has a real buzz. There could be no buzz for a fight with Mayweather after Khan's last two wins.


I'm well aware of the facts of the situation. In hindsight, it looks like a poor decision because he could have increased his stock with a win over Alexander, which would have gave him an edge over Maidana. I just think that there's too much hatred and criticism headed towards his direction because he decided to look out for his best interests. If Mayweather had followed through on his farce poll, none of you guys would be criticizing him for landing the big fight. You would be criticizing the fight for being made(as would I), but you wouldn't have questioned Khan's strategy to make it happen. He was this close to landing the fight. It didn't happen and he came up short. Sh*t happens. I'm just not going to be one of these fans that craps on a guy for trying his damn best to land a fight with the best fighter in the sport.

Also I don't buy this notion that there would be no real buzz if he hadn't beaten Alexander. Seriously, Mayweather is buzz all by himself, and Khan has a really loyal and large following of British fans. That fight would have made plenty of money either way.
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Post#268 » by Blame Rasho » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:18 pm

Butch718 wrote:
skflives wrote:Sorry. Whatever his reasons it didn't change the facts of the situation. The Alexander fight would have taken place with plenty of time to prepare for a May fight with Mayweather. He punked out of the alexander fight because he didn't want to risk the fight with Mayweather. He rolled the dice and came up snake eyes. Its his own damned fault. He fights Alexander and takes his title then a fight with Mayweather has a real buzz. There could be no buzz for a fight with Mayweather after Khan's last two wins.


I'm well aware of the facts of the situation. In hindsight, it looks like a poor decision because he could have increased his stock with a win over Alexander, which would have gave him an edge over Maidana. I just think that there's too much hatred and criticism headed towards his direction because he decided to look out for his best interests. If Mayweather had followed through on his farce poll, none of you guys would be criticizing him for landing the big fight. You would be criticizing the fight for being made(as would I), but you wouldn't have questioned Khan's strategy to make it happen. He was this close to landing the fight. It didn't happen and he came up short. Sh*t happens. I'm just not going to be one of these fans that craps on a guy for trying his damn best to land a fight with the best fighter in the sport.

Also I don't buy this notion that there would be no real buzz if he hadn't beaten Alexander. Seriously, Mayweather is buzz all by himself, and Khan has a really loyal and large following of British fans. That fight would have made plenty of money either way.



The thing is that Khan somehow thinks he was entitled to fight Mayweather... and that is among the biggest and most douchebag things to be after his little bitchy tamprum doesn't endure him to fight fans when you consider he has done nothing at 147... and lost his last two notable fights at 140. He somehow says he never ducked anyone but acknowledges that he didn't want to fight Alexander because of the risks to losing the Mayweather fight and never wanted a rematch with Presscott. It is hard to feel sorry for him.... and his awkward footwork that has allowed him to get KO'ed by a far lesser fighter in Garcia.


"Following the announcement by Floyd Mayweather that he will be facing Marcos Maidana on May 3rd I would like to clarify my situation for my fans and members of the media.

"Despite having signed my part of the agreement to fight Floyd in early December, I've been preparing myself for some time that the match up with him wasn't going to happen, as I announced on Twitter a few days ago. Therefore, this announcement did not come as a surprise.

"I am, however, very disappointed with Floyd and his team for not providing any explanation as to why he delayed the announcement for so long and ultimately avoided the fight with me.

"Clarification, if he was not fighting me, would have allowed me to look over my options and pursue another path, rather than the ultimate delay to my career this has caused.

"It has been a very frustrating period as I'd been due to fight in December against Devon Alexander, however, I was strongly advised to not take this fight as I would be facing Floyd this May - and therefore signed my side of the contract on this belief.

"Floyd was keen to engage with the fans and so decided to let them choose who he should fight in his next bout. I clearly won his official poll, by a significant margin, but for unknown reasons he decided to ignore the fans vote and failed to keep his word. Disappointing many fight fans who took the time to vote.

"I genuinely wish Marcos and Floyd all the best for their fight - two great fighters. As a team we have now moved on and are looking at different options.

"I've been training very hard since my last fight. I'm a fighter who wants to face the very best out there and have never ducked any opponent.

"I'm focused and ready for my next outing - we currently have a few options on the table at the moment and my team are working alongside Golden Boy Promotions to announce my next fight within the next 10 days.

"I can't wait to get back in the ring and am determined to put on a great show for my loyal fans who have waited a long time to see me back in action - and I'm very excited about what's yet to come this year. Thank you for all your continued support."
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Post#269 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:24 pm

Hey, if you want to criticize him on his grand sense of entitlement, be my guest. I think he's a douche bag myself. But at the same time I recognize that he was looking out for his own best interests in his attempt to land the biggest fight of his career. It's not like he was chasing a far fetched dream. If that was the case then I would be criticizing him myself for trying to land a fight that he had no chance of getting. But that wasn't the case at all because he really was one of the top contenders to land Mayweather. Otherwise he wouldn't have wasted his time chasing the fight.
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Post#270 » by Blame Rasho » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:29 pm

Butch718 wrote:Hey, if you want to criticize him on his grand sense of entitlement, be my guest. I think he's a douche bag myself. But at the same time I recognize that he was looking out for his own best interests in his attempt to land the biggest fight of his career. It's not like he was chasing a far fetched dream. If that was the case then I would be criticizing him myself for trying to land a fight that he had no chance of getting. But that wasn't the case at all because he really was one of the top contenders to land Mayweather. Otherwise he wouldn't have wasted his time chasing the fight.


The thing is do any of us really feel sorry for him? No...

It is that simple.

Khan has done nothing to remotely deserve a fight with Mayweather... and that is that... and if he wants to go all woe is me, and Mayweather is ducking me or scared... you just have to laugh at his stupidity.
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Post#271 » by Butch718 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:33 pm

I don't feel sorry for him BTW. I just don't blame him for attempting to land the biggest fight of his career against the best fighter in the sport. That's all I was trying to say.
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Post#272 » by skflives » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:05 pm

^^^ I agree with Blame Rasho. Butch, the problem isn't that we don't understand that Khan was looking out for his own best interests. We know that he was looking out for his own best interests. That's why I am happy things turned out the way they did. People who choose the path of least resistance don't deserve to get what they want.
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Post#273 » by Butch718 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:20 pm

I hate when fighters don't bother to make weight. If you're struggling to shed pounds, then perhaps you shouldn't be fighting in that division anymore. I hope Lomanchenko destroys Salido. Salido is a punk.
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Post#274 » by GS Warriors 1 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:02 pm

Still some danger for Lomachenko, Salido is the type that can really test you in the ring. I do see Vasyl winning, he's the more skilled fighter and appears to have all the tools necessary to be one of the top fighters.

As for the main event, I think Chavez wins this time around, possibly by stoppage. Seems more focused anyway. Vera will put up a good fight like he always does, so this fight will be entertaining.
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Post#275 » by Butch718 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:18 am

Lomanchenko doesn't look comfortable. And Salido looks to have a power and size advantage so far.
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Post#276 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:23 am

Butch718 wrote:Lomanchenko doesn't look comfortable. And Salido looks to have a power and size advantage so far.

Salido looks huge
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Post#277 » by Butch718 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:24 am

Dude didn't bother to make weight. Disgusting. He's fighting at 147 tonight.
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Post#278 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:28 am

Cole is useless
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Post#279 » by Butch718 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:29 am

Cole still has a hangover from the Maidana/Broner fight.
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Post#280 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Mar 2, 2014 3:33 am

I have Salido ahead

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