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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1101 » by fishercob » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:53 pm

If you think about, Otto is sort of going to end up being our 2014 first round pick. Because his season this year was basically lost, it feels more like we didn't have a 2013 pick. With a full season of adjusting to NBA travel, schedule, etc, and a healthy offseason of work, I expect Otto to hit the ground running next year.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1102 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:42 pm

fishercob wrote:If you think about, Otto is sort of going to end up being our 2014 first round pick. Because his season this year was basically lost, it feels more like we didn't have a 2013 pick. With a full season of adjusting to NBA travel, schedule, etc, and a healthy offseason of work, I expect Otto to hit the ground running next year.

I'll bet Ernie twists that thought around and says - "We think of Otto as our 2014 1st rounder, because he was injured for while this past season and never got a chance to get going."

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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1103 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Mar 1, 2014 12:34 am

fishercob wrote:If you think about, Otto is sort of going to end up being our 2014 first round pick. Because his season this year was basically lost, it feels more like we didn't have a 2013 pick. With a full season of adjusting to NBA travel, schedule, etc, and a healthy offseason of work, I expect Otto to hit the ground running next year.




Otto's just in a tough situation right now. The strength of Otto that's consistently touted is he plays a "high IQ" game. How can a 20 yr old ROOKIE who missed training camp and preseason, come into the NBA after just 2 years of college ball, a new team and teammates, a new coach and system, a new league where he can be on the same court playing against vets who have 10+ yrs of experience in the league, play a "high IQ" game ???? It's just not realistic.

I am certainly disappointed in his season like everyone. But we just need some patience here. I still think he's gonna be a good player, but it probably won't be until his 3rd year. I do think he needs to get on the court. Maybe give Webster more run at the 2 to open up some minutes at SF. But Otto needs a strong offseason on the practice court and in the weight room. Next season will in essence be his rookie year, possibly with Ariza removed from the picture. After an actual season on the court next year, following year (year 3) would basically like where Beal is this year in his development. Hopefully by then he'll be laying all our concerns to rest.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1105 » by hands11 » Sat Mar 1, 2014 8:16 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
fishercob wrote:If you think about, Otto is sort of going to end up being our 2014 first round pick. Because his season this year was basically lost, it feels more like we didn't have a 2013 pick. With a full season of adjusting to NBA travel, schedule, etc, and a healthy offseason of work, I expect Otto to hit the ground running next year.




Otto's just in a tough situation right now. The strength of Otto that's consistently touted is he plays a "high IQ" game. How can a 20 yr old ROOKIE who missed training camp and preseason, come into the NBA after just 2 years of college ball, a new team and teammates, a new coach and system, a new league where he can be on the same court playing against vets who have 10+ yrs of experience in the league, play a "high IQ" game ???? It's just not realistic.

I am certainly disappointed in his season like everyone. But we just need some patience here. I still think he's gonna be a good player, but it probably won't be until his 3rd year. I do think he needs to get on the court. Maybe give Webster more run at the 2 to open up some minutes at SF. But Otto needs a strong offseason on the practice court and in the weight room. Next season will in essence be his rookie year, possibly with Ariza removed from the picture. After an actual season on the court next year, following year (year 3) would basically like where Beal is this year in his development. Hopefully by then he'll be laying all our concerns to rest.


Yeah.. I excepted this is the reality for Otto going into the AS break. If he didn't play before then, he wasn't going to play after it.
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Post#1106 » by WallToWall » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:01 am

Hate to say it, but he needs to be shut down for the rest of the season. He need to hit the weights, and develop some thicker legs to play at this level. Physically, I dont think he is ready...like the majority of 1st year players our of college. Next year, man, next year.
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Post#1107 » by Induveca » Sun Mar 2, 2014 4:45 am

WallToWall wrote:Hate to say it, but he needs to be shut down for the rest of the season. He need to hit the weights, and develop some thicker legs to play at this level. Physically, I dont think he is ready...like the majority of 1st year players our of college. Next year, man, next year.


Unfortunately wasn't he a junior? Kid is a bust. Drafted for idiotic Georgetown connections.

Juan Dixon, Blake etc etc....the "local connection" marketing logic has bitten this franchise too many times the past decade.
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Post#1109 » by FAH1223 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 5:30 am

Induveca wrote:
WallToWall wrote:Hate to say it, but he needs to be shut down for the rest of the season. He need to hit the weights, and develop some thicker legs to play at this level. Physically, I dont think he is ready...like the majority of 1st year players our of college. Next year, man, next year.


Unfortunately wasn't he a junior? Kid is a bust. Drafted for idiotic Georgetown connections.

Juan Dixon, Blake etc etc....the "local connection" marketing logic has bitten this franchise too many times the past decade.


Nah he was a Sophmore last year.
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Post#1110 » by AFM » Sun Mar 2, 2014 6:10 am

Bust. On to the next one.

He looks AWFUL. As in no basketball skill whatsoever. Even when Beal was stinking it up you could tell he had played ball before.
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Post#1111 » by DCZards » Sun Mar 2, 2014 6:14 am

Far too early to label Porter a bust. Kid needs a chance to play some consistent minutes before making that call.
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Post#1112 » by Induveca » Sun Mar 2, 2014 6:30 am

AFM wrote:Bust. On to the next one.

He looks AWFUL. As in no basketball skill whatsoever. Even when Beal was stinking it up you could tell he had played ball before.


Agree 100 percent. He has had enough practice to show something and earn minutes.

Slow, unathletic, horrible jumper.......hometown pick by the marketing staff and Grunfeld/Leonsis.
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Post#1113 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Sun Mar 2, 2014 2:42 pm

Induveca wrote:
AFM wrote:Bust. On to the next one.

He looks AWFUL. As in no basketball skill whatsoever. Even when Beal was stinking it up you could tell he had played ball before.


Agree 100 percent. He has had enough practice to show something and earn minutes.

Slow, unathletic, horrible jumper.......hometown pick by the marketing staff and Grunfeld/Leonsis.


Otto Porter was drafted for the same reasons that have you believing he's "awful". Porter isn't the type of player to force things, but rather allow things to develop for him naturally. So an un-spectacular showing from Porter might look worse than one from Beal who has somewhat of a green light to shoot, despite struggling from within the three point line.

Otto Porter isn't getting more playing time simply because he has two more experienced players on the roster who play the same position that he does.
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Post#1114 » by Kanyewest » Sun Mar 2, 2014 5:58 pm

I was encouraged by Otto Porter last night because he actually knocked down a jumper. I agree that it's going to take time- last night was a small step in the right direction.
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Post#1115 » by mhd » Sun Mar 2, 2014 6:04 pm

Kanyewest wrote:I was encouraged by Otto Porter last night because he actually knocked down a jumper. I agree that it's going to take time- last night was a small step in the right direction.



Huh?

He got abused on defense by Wroten, and shot a Ruffin-esque 3 pointer.
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Post#1116 » by go'stags » Sun Mar 2, 2014 6:49 pm

Props to you guys for watching that blowout closely enough to draw any conclusions. I know I couldn't.

Because of how he plays (and thrives), the only way to judge him is when he gets consistent, meaningful minutes. I don' think Webster is fully healthy. I'd give him some time off while giving Porter some minutes.

Until we see him consistently, feel free to make judgments about some useless minutes. I know you will.
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Post#1117 » by go'stags » Sun Mar 2, 2014 7:00 pm

Induveca wrote:
WallToWall wrote:Hate to say it, but he needs to be shut down for the rest of the season. He need to hit the weights, and develop some thicker legs to play at this level. Physically, I dont think he is ready...like the majority of 1st year players our of college. Next year, man, next year.


Unfortunately wasn't he a junior? Kid is a bust. Drafted for idiotic Georgetown connections.

Juan Dixon, Blake etc etc....the "local connection" marketing logic has bitten this franchise too many times the past decade.


You mean the Steve Blake that was a second round pick and is still in the league 10 years later? A guy Kobe was upset to see traded?

Otto may turn out to be a bust, but anyone who watched him in college knows he earned his draft slot.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1118 » by Kanyewest » Sun Mar 2, 2014 9:00 pm

mhd wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:I was encouraged by Otto Porter last night because he actually knocked down a jumper. I agree that it's going to take time- last night was a small step in the right direction.



Huh?

He got abused on defense by Wroten, and shot a Ruffin-esque 3 pointer.


Wroten is pretty good at getting by his man- and it was in garbage time so there really wasn't much team defense. Porter still hasn't hit a 3 pointer this season - he still needs to work on that part of his game. But I thought the behind the back move was still impressive. But I think we agree that Porter still has a long way to go.
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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1119 » by WallToWall » Sun Mar 2, 2014 10:06 pm

I don't think he is a bust. Just not ready to contribute at a level needed by the team at this point in time. He has a lot of things to do to be NBA ready. Much like is done with most 1st year players who are very green but still show promise, they need to bring him in slow. I think he came out a year too early and would have benefited from his college senior year from a basketball perspective. Next year will be when we can really judge what we have in him. I see Jewon Howard upside.

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Re: Otto Porter 

Post#1120 » by closg00 » Sun Mar 2, 2014 10:13 pm

The Lakers just sent Xavier Henry to the D-League to play two games, just two. I don't understand why the Wizards don't send Porter to their D-League affiliate for 3 or 4 games just so-that he can play some ball and work with the coaches on his game. Very frustrating.

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