GT: Cats @ Heat Mon Mar 3 7:30PM

[HornetJail]

Im confused. How can a man who shot 18-24 for 39 points and 19 rebounds be detrimental towards anything but winning? Is this real life?

Real life =/= BD trolling

Lol i mean damn. Without Jefferson tonight we lose by maybe 40. Not even exaggerating. Maybe even more.

Lebron probably only scores 40, because the game would be over mid-way through the third quarter.

[HornetJail]

As pissed as I am about this game, I've got to laugh at this.

[Liver_Pooty]

As pissed as I am about this game, I've got to laugh at this.

lol

[Fred Williamson]

how are we a top 5 defensive team and let this happen? (again)

[MasterIchiro]

Seriously, what happened to our defensive specialist?

[gehenherzog]

if you guys see gehenherzog around here let him know I"m looking for him

you must have gotten trolled pretty hard to have to brag to a Bobcats fan about beating them as a Heat fan.

Trolled hard, he also trolls himself. He can't help it.


But as I said on their board, then got banned, if Kemba didn't come to play we would lose by 20. Kemba didn't come to play but I don't think that's why we lost by 20. LeBron happened

[yosemiteben]

If we had not signed Al we probably would have signed somebody else in his place, maybe a player who wouldn't be such a focal point of our offense that it becomes detrimental to the team.

BD logic: "Signing an elite offensive player was a mistake because our team is too bad offensively."

Al is by far the most talented free agent this franchise has ever signed. There is absolutely no guarantee we would've signed anyone in the same stratosphere as Al.

[gehenherzog]

Heat fans are the worst, in case you were wondering. If you don't believe me, go check the game thread on their board. Already got flagged for sticking up for the Bobcats.

Yeah I wouldn't bother going over to their board, they're likely salty about that video we aired last time they came to town. Bitches probably wanted Ben Gordon on their bench too.

By the way, does anybody have a link to that or did the Miami Heat yank that video?

Yeah it got pulled.

One of their threads they complain that Durant gets all the calls and that if LeBron got that many calls, he would average 40+ a game. LeBron just doesn't get the calls

[catch20two]

Seriously, what happened to our defensive specialist?

MKG shouldn't let this happen. Nevertheless twice.

[yosemiteben]

I was real frustrated with the way we closed out the game. We were down 13 with around 4 minutes to go then we got a series of stops but just couldn't score. Kemba missed a layup, Tolliver missed at least one open three, Neal missed an open runner in the lane...

Those shots drop and all of the sudden we're only down 8. We played really sloppy down the stretch.

[mrknowitall215]

Biyombo only got 5 minutes last night? I understand that Jefferson was almost unstoppable, but let's not act like Biyombo isn't statistically one of the best rim protectors & defensive rebounders in the league

[Snidely FC]

If we had not signed Al we probably would have signed somebody else in his place, maybe a player who wouldn't be such a focal point of our offense that it becomes detrimental to the team.

BD logic: "Signing an elite offensive player was a mistake because our team is too bad offensively."

Al is by far the most talented free agent this franchise has ever signed. There is absolutely no guarantee we would've signed anyone in the same stratosphere as Al.

Ya'll are misrepresenting BD. He is not denying Al is talented. He is concerned that our offense is too reliant on one person, one approach. Al was hugely unstoppable last night. We still lost, yes because of Lebron, but also because our offense was one person. Now, for example, say CHA signed Robin Lopez on Jul 10 instead of Al. Our offense would look massively different. Many on this board would say much worse. But it would have had to feature ball movement, say San Antonio style, rather than PNR and ISOs with Al. Maybe would have featured more cuts for someone like MKG? More drives to the hoop by Kemba? No telling. Point is while Al can score, there is more than one way to run an offense. BD is arguing for a more teamwide system on offense.

[fatlever]

Seriously, what happened to our defensive specialist?

MKG shouldn't let this happen. Nevertheless twice.

it wasnt all MKG's fault. he played good defense for the most part. our plan is to allow our wings to single cover guys like lebron, durant, melo etc...and turn them into jumpshooters as much as possible and especially for guys like lebron, to not let them become playmakers for their team. lebron was taking the shots that we wanted him to take (long jumpers), same as melo in that other game. when you dont double superstars and they catch fire, then occasionally this happens. more often than not, allowing MKG to single cover his man and allowing jefferson to stay at home in the paint has worked. last night, it was a disaster.

clifford should have started doubling lebron earlier once it was obvious he was hot. he left MKG on an island for too long. it wasnt until late in the 3rd when zeller started coming over to help.

we also didnt alter our strategy when jefferson's man (anderson) was setting screens out past the 3pt line allowing lebron a wide open jumper or a clear path to the lane.

blame percentage summary

60% lebron catching fire from deep (which is exactly the shots most teams want him to take)
20% our strategy of not helping MKG defensively (which usually works)
15% jefferson's inability to help on pick and roll defense
3% bad defense by tolliver to allow lebron to catch fire
2% bad defense by MKG for failing to put out the fire

[Eoghan]

BD. Thats just a trolling comment, man. Jefferson is definitely not detrimental to the team in any way shape or form. That is just ridiculous. He gets the ball, he scores, and he scores at an insane percentage. It isn't his fault that no one else on the team can create or make a shot. Come on now...

It is his fault if can't make plays for them. LeBron scored 61 points but got 5 assists to Al's 1. 4 more assists is a minimum of 8 points LeBron created for his teammates even though he's the number one option. Team basketball.

If we had not signed Al we probably would have signed somebody else in his place, maybe a player who wouldn't be such a focal point of our offense that it becomes detrimental to the team.

BD logic: "Signing an elite offensive player was a mistake because our team is too bad offensively."

Al is by far the most talented free agent this franchise has ever signed. There is absolutely no guarantee we would've signed anyone in the same stratosphere as Al.

Yeah, Paul Millsap would have been a pipe dream. What stratosphere is Al in again? There's a reason why he's never in the All Star game (hint: Games like these are the reason)

[Eoghan]

You're the only person on RealGM other than tsherkin that could pull some stupid argument out of his ass saying that scoring 36/19 on 17-23 shooting is DETRIMENTAL to the Bobcats.

You realize that this is what a first option is supposed to do, right? Or are you too used to the 30-win brand of basketball the Bobcats had all those years without a first option. The biggest thing we lacked on those Wallace teams was a legit 1st option we could throw the ball to and make something happen.

Low blow, man low blow. You don't see me pulling random adv. stats out of my ass.

Did we win last night? No, we got blown out b/c we got pick and rolled to death by Lebron. We left Lebron open for threes b/c Al running out at Lebron on a switch = automatic 2 points for Miami. Lebron went nuts from three so we tried to run him off the three point line, result being Lebron waltzing through the lane at will and scoring on GOAT Al Jefferson. By virtue of losing rules Al's 36/19 out of being beneficial so it's either detrimental (b/c Al is abysmal defensively and touches the ball so much his teammates can't get involved) or completely irrelevant. I'll let you choose: Detrimental or irrelevant.

TEAM basketball, we do not play it when Al dominates possession. Al Jefferson vs the world is not going to win us any playoff series. Seriously, how many 5-7 game series do you think Charlotte can win where Al putting up 30/15 maybe is enough for a win? And the odds of Al averaging that against a team in the post season?

[yosemiteben]

When Al has scored 25 or more points, the Bobcats are 11-5. When Al has scored less than 25 points, the Bobcats are 11-24.

Clearly the answer to our problems is for Al to stop scoring so much.

[mrknowitall215]

ESPN's First Take respectfully commended Charlotte for being a relentless opponent today despite LeBron's career-high 61 points

[fatlever]

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... fault.html

clifford says, dont blame MKG or tolliver.

[yosemiteben]

From the wiretap:

"LeBron James has struggled with his shot in the two games since scoring 61 points on Monday.

James is 1-for-19 on his jump shot attempts in Miami Heat losses to the Houston Rockets and San Antonio Spurs."

[HornetJail]

From the wiretap:

"LeBron James has struggled with his shot in the two games since scoring 61 points on Monday.

James is 1-for-19 on his jump shot attempts in Miami Heat losses to the Houston Rockets and San Antonio Spurs."

of course. he probably used up his jump shot quota for about three games in just that one game