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Re: GT #63: Wizards (33-29) @ HEAT (43-16) 7:30 PM CSN (3/10 

Post#21 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 9, 2014 8:25 pm

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The Fax wrote:I don't know what's more disappointing; the fact that Porter could only muster up 11 seconds of PT against the lowly Bucks, or the fact that he played 22 minutes against Utah and didn't do squat. :-?

It's probably best to sit him for this one. LeBron will tear him apart and shatter what little confidence (if any) he has left.


I guess this is just what we'll have to put up with every time Porter doesn't hit two big three point shots during his rookie campaign.

Porter provided defense that game. He isn't the type of player to force things on offense so it doesn't bother me if he doesn't score much his first year. Will bother me more if he once again becomes a forgotten man in Wittman's rotation. He didn't do anything in his last two games that should cause him to fall completely out of favor with Wittman.


Seems Randy has very little understanding or appreciation for momentum.

Wall killed the momentum with poor play stating at the end of the 2nd. Shoot selection, turnovers, and uninspired D are huge momentum killers. Wall did a little of all three.

When things went South in the third, Randy made no adjustments. He stuck to his regular rotations and waiting for the clock to tell him when to substitute instead of the game telling him.

Adding solid vet play like Gooden can help. So can adding a hungry energy defender that can create steals and get out of position rebounds like Otto. Which is basically what Ves gave them. And since Randy never understood how and when to use Ves, I doubt he will understand the same about Otto.
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Re: GT #63: Wizards (33-29) @ HEAT (43-16) 7:30 PM CSN (3/10 

Post#22 » by hands11 » Sun Mar 9, 2014 8:28 pm

dlts20 wrote:we always matchup great with the Heat. Lebron is in a major slump so we are either catching them at the best time ever or the worst time ever. Wade is not playing b2b's but today's game is a very early day game so I could see him playing against us. However, they just went into OT so that could mean he wont play. That goes for there whole team also. It sucks for us that they have a early game today but they still went into OT, blew the game, annd have to travel while we will be pumped to play them. Should be interesting either way


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Re: GT #63: Wizards (33-29) @ HEAT (43-17) 7:30 PM CSN (3/10 

Post#23 » by JWizmentality » Sun Mar 9, 2014 9:45 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Heat lost to the Bulls in overtime.

They will come out angry and blow out the Wiz tomorrow.


If I remember correctly they were on a losing streak the last time they faced us and people were saying the same thing. How did that turn out for them?

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Post#24 » by dangermouse » Sun Mar 9, 2014 10:37 pm

Calling it now: Refs will make sure Heat get the win.

Watching Heat @ Bulls right now and that seems to be the theme so far.
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Post#25 » by nuposse04 » Sun Mar 9, 2014 11:57 pm

dangermouse wrote:Calling it now: Refs will make sure Heat get the win.

Watching Heat @ Bulls right now and that seems to be the theme so far.


that game was fairly decent on the refs part except the Noah put back which should not have counted.

I'm sure that scum **** Riley will call up Silver and make sure LBJ gets his superstar calls tomorrow. Lebron has been streaky as hell with his jumper, Randy should just show film on how Chicago played em and try to emulate their defensive game plan tomorrow. Offensively we should be able to score on the heat I think. Also need to make sure we cover up Bosh on those 3 pt attempts. Hilarious their center is a more pure shooter then their SG.
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Post#26 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:03 am

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The Fax wrote:I don't know what's more disappointing; the fact that Porter could only muster up 11 seconds of PT against the lowly Bucks, or the fact that he played 22 minutes against Utah and didn't do squat. :-?

It's probably best to sit him for this one. LeBron will tear him apart and shatter what little confidence (if any) he has left.


I guess this is just what we'll have to put up with every time Porter doesn't hit two big three point shots during his rookie campaign.

Porter provided defense that game. He isn't the type of player to force things on offense so it doesn't bother me if he doesn't score much his first year. Will bother me more if he once again becomes a forgotten man in Wittman's rotation. He didn't do anything in his last two games that should cause him to fall completely out of favor with Wittman.


Seems Randy has very little understanding or appreciation for momentum.

Wall killed the momentum with poor play stating at the end of the 2nd. Shoot selection, turnovers, and uninspired D are huge momentum killers. Wall did a little of all three.

When things went South in the third, Randy made no adjustments. He stuck to his regular rotations and waiting for the clock to tell him when to substitute instead of the game telling him.

Adding solid vet play like Gooden can help. So can adding a hungry energy defender that can create steals and get out of position rebounds like Otto. Which is basically what Ves gave them. And since Randy never understood how and when to use Ves, I doubt he will understand the same about Otto.



If Porter were able to establish himself as a disruptive defensive player I could see Wittman turning to Porter in specific situations like he would with Garrett Temple.

For me, Vesely's lack of overall skillset outweighed the small things he would do on the side. If that was the case for Wittman, it could be the difference in how he uses a very skilled Porter in his young career, versus the way he used Vesely.
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Post#27 » by FAH1223 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:09 am

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If I remember correctly they were on a losing streak the last time they faced us and people were saying the same thing. How did that turn out for them?


We needed to score 43 points in the first quarter and have everything bounce our way. :lol:

Plus, no Nene means another big we can't use to exploit their lack of size. Unless, of course, Gooden balls out. :lol:

I will say, Wittman should look at the Spurs and Bulls games of the past few days and use Ariza in the same way as Thibs/Pop with Jimmy Butler and Kwahi Leonard/Boris Diaw when guarding LeBron. Make him take jumpshots, don't turn it over to ignite their fastbreaks either.

But seeing the Bucks get to the rim at will last night means LeBron is going to have a dunk contest on Gortat. :lol:
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Post#28 » by AFM » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:20 am

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Post#29 » by dangermouse » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:13 am

wow chi town got the win. rough and tumble game too. hope it sapped their energy a bit.
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Post#30 » by mohammed10 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:50 am

FAH1223 wrote:Heat lost to the Bulls in overtime.

They will come out angry and blow out the Wiz tomorrow.


...or come out tired group of old guys on a back-to-back?

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Post#31 » by The Fax » Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:05 am

I'm not complaining about Porter, just disappointed. You would figure that he could get some more playing time against the crappier teams in the league . I guess that's more of an indictment on the overall talent level of this team. I just wanna see the guy play.
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Post#32 » by dobrojim » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:24 pm

nate33 wrote:While certainly the odds favor us losing, I definitely think this is a winnable game. We seem to match up pretty well with Miami, and we're playing very well on the road. Miami should be tired on a back-to-back, and we should be a bit disappointed after our 2nd half collapse in Milwaukee and will hopefully be mentally prepared.

It'll help that we'll be sampling Miami's night life on a Sunday night - which presumably isn't quite as active. And that the Miami players themselves won't be around to show the Wizards players a good time.


I have no idea if this story is true but I heard about NFL players hiring "professional" women
to go and visit a visiting team players hotel the night before a game to ensure they didn't get much sleep.
If that sort of thing does happen, and if the Heat have any players that would make such a hire,
the Heat player could definitely do it at arms length.

But I agree completely overall with your analysis. The Heat have lost 3 straight which could
work either way. They're not playing well, but they'd probably be highly motivated. The fact
that we kicked their rear ends last time presumably won't diminish their motivation either.

But I do think we match up with them well and we are a decent road team. In fact, we
are actually among the better road teams in the league. 12 teams have winning road records.
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Post#33 » by dobrojim » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:27 pm

dangermouse wrote:Calling it now: Refs will make sure Heat get the win.

Watching Heat @ Bulls right now and that seems to be the theme so far.


I fear you may be right. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Post#34 » by MarcoPolo » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:56 pm

This is first time LeBron James didn't attempt a free throw since Dec. 2, 2009, a span of 332 games.


Wonder how many he will get tonight, +10 at least. Should be fun/annoying game, choose yours.
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Post#36 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:46 pm

Yeah, I don't think fatigue really carries over as much as people hope.

Tired legs comes from long road trips from lack of sleep. If Miami gets a good night's sleep they'll be refreshed and angry.

What I'm more hopeful for is what Nate said -- we just match up well at each position. LeBron has to play against Ariza, who's good at defense. We've got Beal to match up with Wade, which is not too much of a mismatch. Bosh might be our biggest matchup problem, and we've got bigs to throw at their frontcourt.

Nevertheless. I figure there's about a 75% chance it's going to be a bloodbath.
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Post#37 » by dobrojim » Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:54 pm

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So can adding a hungry energy defender that can create steals and get out of position rebounds like Otto. Which is basically what Ves gave them. And since Randy never understood how and when to use Ves, I doubt he will understand the same about Otto.


so if we lose, it will all be because EG foolishly traded away Ves who was never used properly anyway.

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Post#38 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:06 pm

dobrojim wrote:
hands11 wrote:
So can adding a hungry energy defender that can create steals and get out of position rebounds like Otto. Which is basically what Ves gave them. And since Randy never understood how and when to use Ves, I doubt he will understand the same about Otto.


so if we lose, it will all be because EG foolishly traded away Ves who was never used properly anyway.

Got it.

It's easy to understand how to use them correctly; just use them on defensive downs or when the other team has a player in the penalty box. Duh.
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Post#39 » by Tiny Too » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:31 pm

First game this season vs. Miami without Maynor. :thumbsup:
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Post#40 » by closg00 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:48 pm

Vicious Heat beat down tonight. We have been coasting on an easy schedule and the Heat are not going to lose 4 consecutive games.

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