Tim Hardaway Jr. looking like a steal

DCintheD · Post #1 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:58 am

He's been dominating off the bench lately especially from 3 point range. Helping Knicks win too.

KCP where u at??

These two should be compared their entire careers. As of now one's a steal and one's a reach, wouldn't label him a bust tho

sc8581 · Post #2 » by **sc8581** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:10 am

DCintheD wrote:He's been dominating off the bench lately especially from 3 point range. Helping Knicks win too.

KCP where u at??

These two should be compared their entire careers. As of now one's a steal and one's a reach, wouldn't label him a bust tho

Hardaway has been extremely inconsistent, 10.0ppg on 8.3 shots and he does nothing else to help his team, he's also a year older. I'll take KCP.

MotownMadness · Post #3 » by **MotownMadness** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:43 pm

Hes looked pretty good lately.

Pharaoh · Post #4 » by **Pharaoh** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:58 pm

One is a steal because expectations were low...and easier to surpass.

Regardless of how KCP turns out he will never be a reach. He was going Lotto even if we passed.

It's too soon to pass judgement on rookies though. One season is not a career

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The Penguin · Post #5 » by **The Penguin** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:01 pm

I've said it before and will probably say it again, we could have traded down with Utah (instead of Minny doing it) and walked away with Giannis AND THJR.

It looks like Joe has finally accomplished being shown the door, but it's 8 months out and painfully obvious how badly he blew last summer.

Billl · Post #6 » by **Billl** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:04 pm

Guess that depends on what you mean by "lately". He's had 2 good games in a row. In the last 10, he's scoring 12 ppg on 38% shooting with a whopping 0.5 assists in 28 mpg. He can clearly fill it up when his shot is falling, so he'll have a bench roll for years to come. Beyond that? He really hasn't shown anything that would make me think he's destine for a larger role.

rock digger · Post #7 » by **rock digger** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:33 pm

Shooting 43% from the field and 37% from 3 on a disfunctional Knicks team that doesn't share the ball. His defense is somewhat lacking, but literally nobody on the Knicks plays a lick of defense anyway. He is definetely a steal considering where he was drafted, and the overall weakness of this draft class makes him look even better. Has a chance to be a first team rookie (provided that he doesn't get jammed out by the whole position basis thing). Right now I would have the first team rookie awards like:

Burke
MCW
Oladipo
THJr
Olynyk

This is provided that the team isn't based off positions. I remember the NBA no longer requiring a center to be on the team a few years ago, but I don't know if they require a certain amount of forwards or guards.

edit: I just noticed, but aside from Oladipo, everyone in contention for the rookie first team were drafted outside of the top 10. A truly horrible draft class.

Laimbeer · Post #8 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:56 pm

KCP should be judged by what KCP does (which isn't much so far). If this is just another player comparison for entertainment's sake, I don't think you'll find many people outside this forum that prefer KCP.

BadMofoPimp · Post #9 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:46 pm

If KCP was on another team, fans here would call him a reach and possibly a bust. Just sayin. If he is going to make it in the NBA over the course of his rookie contract, that all depends on his own personal motivation to get better.

DCintheD · Post #10 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:46 pm

I wanna trade for him

Smith, Jerebko, Singler for Amare and THJR

Laimbeer · Post #11 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:03 pm

DCintheD wrote:I wanna trade for him

Smith, Jerebko, Singler for Amare and THJR

I've seen the same trade with Jennings instead of Jerebko and Singler.

Phenomenonsense · Post #12 » by **Phenomenonsense** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:15 pm

People always look good in NYK then fall off. It's the MSG effect baby.

DetroitSho · Post #13 » by **DetroitSho** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:39 pm

DCintheD wrote:He's been dominating off the bench lately especially from 3 point range. Helping Knicks win too.

KCP where u at??

These two should be compared their entire careers. As of now one's a steal and one's a reach, wouldn't label him a bust tho

KCP is outperforming the #1 pick. By comparison we got great value, right?

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ImHeisenberg · Post #14 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:43 pm

Piston Prince wrote:I've said it before and will probably say it again, we could have traded down with Utah (instead of Minny doing it) and walked away with Giannis AND THJR.

It looks like Joe has finally accomplished being shown the door, but it's 8 months out and painfully obvious how badly he blew last summer.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Obviously, we'd be much happier with Hardaway Jr and Giannis at this point. Most teams would prefer to have both of them over their draft picks as well.

imagump1313 · Post #15 » by **imagump1313** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:54 pm

I heard KCP do a radio interview the day Utah was in town. The interviewer asked his feeling about some people wanting Burke here over him. He seemed completely oblivious to the question and had no idea why anyone would compare the two of them here. He then proceeded to go out that night and do nothing while Burke lit it up. That was all I needed to know about KCP.....next.

Hopefully he figures things out but right now he's attached to a franchise thats not going to help him do that so he's pretty much on his own.

Clarity · Post #16 » by **Clarity** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:30 pm

UM Fandom

Q00 · Post #17 » by **Q00** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:53 pm

I'd trade KCP for him in an instant.

DCintheD · Post #18 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:04 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
DCintheD wrote:He's been dominating off the bench lately especially from 3 point range. Helping Knicks win too.

KCP where u at??

These two should be compared their entire careers. As of now one's a steal and one's a reach, wouldn't label him a bust tho

KCP is outperforming the #1 pick. By comparison we got great value, right?

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I only compare the two cuz they play the same position and are similar in size and skillset. Anthony Bennett, for the #1 overall pick, is a bust, unless he becomes a superstar at some point in his career which I cannot see.
KCP is not a bust but THJR has out produced him and looks like the better value pick. I still love the KCP pick but he needs to improve his game tremendously.

DCintheD · Post #19 » by **DCintheD** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:06 pm

Clarity wrote:UM Fandom

thats where you're wrong.. I can careless about U of M or MSU or college sports in general

Clarity · Post #20 » by **Clarity** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:11 pm

DCintheD wrote:
Clarity wrote:UM Fandom

thats where you're wrong.. I can careless about U of M or MSU or college sports in general

TH Jr is avg'ing 10 ppg, 1 reb per game & 1 assist per game this year.

You just said he was "dominating off the bench"

If by "dominating off the bench" you mean has had 2 good games recently than yes, he is dominating off the bench.