Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA?

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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#241 » by CousinOfDeath » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:08 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:The answer is simple: if he goes to a lowly franchise such as Philly, Milwaukee, Orlando, Sacramento or Utah he will be the next OJ Mayo and he would waste his talents there. However, if he is picked up by the Lakers or Celtics, I can see him as the next superstar in the NBA.


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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#242 » by CousinOfDeath » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:10 pm

It would be funny to watch Wiggins outplay Kobe and then watch Kobe get mad and try to run him out of town so he can be the man.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#243 » by DK-All Day » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:23 pm

Wiggins will be in LA or Boston. Too much money to pass up.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#244 » by DarkAzcura » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:26 pm

SDChargers#1 wrote:
Oy Vey - Seriously, is this what you have to put your hat on. Nothing they have done in the last 3 years? Really? REALLY?

1) Let's just ignore the previous 60 years (where they made the finals half of the time)
2) Let's just ignore that they actually made the playoffs the two previous seasons, and just happened to be an old team that ran out of gas.
3) What exactly have the Celtics done in the last 3 years that left them out of your little attack? Oh that's right, nothing.
4) It is quite clear you just hate the Lakers.


I wouldn't call the Lakers a trash-heap franchise since 2011. Going way too far, but their decisions lately have been really questionable. Coach signings, bad extensions, and overall the culture in the locker room doesn't seem that great since the Howard move.

I don't know why you felt like including the Celtics there. The Celtics were recently in the conference finals and were one quarter away from the finals. All anyone could talk about is whether the Heat should be broken up or not because the C's almost knocked them out in 2012. Brad Stevens seems to be a great move so far (also probably a better coach for younger players than most others in the NBA currently), and they actually let go of their aging stars for great assets rather than holding onto them. Both franchises are in a different mode. Who knows who will turn out better in a few years, but I'd say the Celtics are in better position currently, management all the way down to the locker room, for player development.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#245 » by crazy_me_87 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:28 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Wiggins can't finish. How many times does this have to be stated?


He just turned 19 and has all the time to get stronger and get better at finishing... How many times does this have to be stated? ;)

Another excuse that doesn't refute the fact that finishing is not a skill that Wiggins possesses.


do you expect from every draft prospect to be a finished product?

he does not posess this skill YET but has all the tools(frame,athletism,bodycontrol) to get it maybe someday..

even we "fans" know he is not great at finishing right now.. but you know what?

Kevin Durant couldnt dribble at all at 19.. look at him now

Lebron James had no jumpshot,no Postgame at age 19.. look at him now..

DIrk had no Post moves...

etc..

do i have to go on?
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#246 » by Raps Maniac » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:31 pm

DK-All Day wrote:Wiggins will be in LA or Boston. Too much money to pass up.

My worst nightmare is him being a Celtic. Oh god the agony!
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#247 » by SDChargers#1 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:38 pm

DarkAzcura wrote:
SDChargers#1 wrote:
Oy Vey - Seriously, is this what you have to put your hat on. Nothing they have done in the last 3 years? Really? REALLY?

1) Let's just ignore the previous 60 years (where they made the finals half of the time)
2) Let's just ignore that they actually made the playoffs the two previous seasons, and just happened to be an old team that ran out of gas.
3) What exactly have the Celtics done in the last 3 years that left them out of your little attack? Oh that's right, nothing.
4) It is quite clear you just hate the Lakers.


I wouldn't call the Lakers a trash-heap franchise since 2011. Going way too far, but their decisions lately have been really questionable. Coach signings, bad extensions, and overall the culture in the locker room doesn't seem that great since the Howard move.

I don't know why you felt like including the Celtics there. The Celtics were recently in the conference finals and were one quarter away from the finals. All anyone could talk about is whether the Heat should be broken up or not because the C's almost knocked them out in 2012. Brad Stevens seems to be a great move so far (also probably a better coach for younger players than most others in the NBA currently), and they actually let go of their aging stars for great assets rather than holding onto them. Both franchises are in a different mode. Who knows who will turn out better in a few years, but I'd say the Celtics are in better position currently, management all the way down to the locker room, for player development.


Because he singled out the Lakers in reference to a post that mentioned the Lakers AND Celtics (they have had just about the same success or lack there of over the past 3 seasons).

Yes, the Lakers have made some questionable moves. But at the same time a lot of unforeseen events have happened. No one thought Kobe was going to have a potentially career ending injury. No one thought Dwight was just going to leave.

Mike D'Antoni signing...awful
Kobe extension...awful

But saying there is nothing that shows a player can succeed as a Lakers because of the last 3 years is a downright dumb thing to say.

I get people are getting in their licks while they have the chance (how often are the Lakers in this position), but sometimes it really gets on my nerves.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#248 » by BNelley24 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:52 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:The answer is simple: if he goes to a lowly franchise such as Philly, Milwaukee, Orlando, Sacramento or Utah he will be the next OJ Mayo and he would waste his talents there. However, if he is picked up by the Lakers or Celtics, I can see him as the next superstar in the NBA.


LOL, trolling I hope.
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Post#249 » by Novocaine » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:52 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Wiggins can't finish. How many times does this have to be stated?



He just turned 19 and has all the time to get stronger and get better at finishing... How many times does this have to be stated? ;)

Another excuse that doesn't refute the fact that finishing is not a skill that Wiggins possesses.


At the rim: 61.8%
At the rim halfcourt: 56.6%
Transition at rim: 69.8%

It's mind boggling how the idea that Wiggins can't finish just become popular. In the draft board there were people claiming his % at the rim was 31%! Heck, he's a more efficient finisher at the rim than Parker!

He's far from a polished finisher, but what's the point of the crazily hyperbole? Especially when he's been improving? And like the vast majority of the players, he'll keep improving in the NBA.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#250 » by Joseph17 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:26 am

He'll be an all-star, but I'm not so sure he'll be a superstar. I think he's going to be a better defensive player than an offensive player. If I had to make a prediction, I'd say Scottie Pippen without the playmaking ability and with a better jump shot.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#251 » by Valanciunuts » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:42 am

Started out the season pretty slow, lately hes been playing really good both on offense and defense

Edit* its going to be hilarious if he gets drafted by Boston, Tommy is going to ride this guy's dick 24/7.

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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#252 » by Gus McCrae » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:45 am

I would take him #1
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Post#253 » by noobcake » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:50 am

Impacien wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:

He just turned 19 and has all the time to get stronger and get better at finishing... How many times does this have to be stated? ;)

Another excuse that doesn't refute the fact that finishing is not a skill that Wiggins possesses.


At the rim: 61.8%
At the rim halfcourt: 56.6%
Transition at rim: 69.8%

It's mind boggling how the idea that Wiggins can't finish just become popular. In the draft board there were people claiming his % at the rim was 31%! Heck, he's a more efficient finisher at the rim than Parker!

He's far from a polished finisher, but what's the point of the crazily hyperbole? Especially when he's been improving? And like the vast majority of the players, he'll keep improving in the NBA.


Keep posting that faulty Hoop-Math stat though. Did you know that finishing at a supposed 61.8% makes Wiggins the 3rd worst finisher on Kansas.

Worse than:
Joel Embiid
Perry Ellis
Wayne Seldon
Tarik Black
Jamari Traylor
Conner Frankamp
Brannen Greene
Andrew White
Landen Lucas

Damn son, I didn't know there were so many 70-80% rim finishers on Kansas. That team must be the GOAT inside team of all times.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#254 » by aboogie » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:11 am

I see Scottie pippen he has potential rb lock down defender also
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Post#255 » by WVU » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:10 am

Wiggins to philly.. and y'all already know this
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Post#256 » by Bravenewworld » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:13 am

Im gonna upgrade this guy from my last stance on him.

He has all the Xfactors that you cant teach a player, to become a superstar.
His defense is great, the only issue i have with his D is nit picking and generally things that will improve simply over time and experience.
Offensively i have become more sold on his abilities. He continues to be able to get to the rim at will but when in the NBA he will develop that speed which wont allow players to foul him and/or the strength needed to get the and 1 the majority of the time. We all know in the NBA it will most likely be more of the former.
I have a hard time not seeing this guy be a great scorer and defender in the NBA and his willingness to take over games seems to be improving and if he nails this, then we do have a franchise guy on our hands. Otherwise i think he will be right below franchise status, which is not bad at all and still top 3 material.

All that being said i still think i might take the Kentucky guy over him as the first overall pick. Just because he seems to be a safer pick as his game seems to simply need a bit more polishing instead of growing. Scoring wise i dont see him on the level of Wiggins but i dont see him falling below 17 for the majority of his career and if his defense continues to improve, well... ill use a number 1 pick for a 17ppg A+ defensive 3/4 every day of the week.

This seems to be the overall story of the top 4 picks though.
Do you risk it with the development and growth of Embiid or Wiggins. OR, do you go after Randell or Parker, two more NBA ready players, but whose ceilings are no where near Wiggins or Embiids.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#257 » by MinneOOPalis » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:53 am

Two way wings with his level of athleticism and shooting ability are already very valuable.

He can be a very solid starter based on that.
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Re: Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA? 

Post#258 » by memgrizzlies000 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:17 pm

Let me just say this about the Rudy Gay/Wiggins comparisons...

No.

And Rudy Gay is not very quick. Like at all. Wiggins is crazy quick.
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Post#259 » by Sixteen » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:32 pm

Getting Wiggy in South Philly ")

Wiggins will be an amazing player in this league. Let us hope he will be Lebron/Durant like and in a 76ers jersey.
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Post#260 » by three2theD » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:22 pm

Sakuragi_ wrote:Two way wings with his level of athleticism and shooting ability are already very valuable.

He can be a very solid starter based on that.


Yeah, but he doesn't have good shooting ability.

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