LeTroy Guion signs with the Packers

[Frank Nova]

This seems like bad news for Johnny Jolly and Ryan Pickett.

I figured Pickett was gone regardless of what happened during FA, Jolly I had high hopes to bring back. Maybe we still can?

Peppers, Raji, Datone, Daniels, Worthy, Boyd, Guion, Jolly. Is 8 DL too many? And did I miss anyone else?

Pack has opened the past couple seasons w/ 6 DL but finished with 8 last year. I figure counting Peppers and Neal as hybrids. We'll enter season with 6 DL - Daniels, Raji, Jones, Boyd, Rookie and 1 of jolly, guion, worthy, pickett.
JOlly wins that easily if he's healthy.

If worthy is healthy there's no way he doesn't make the team IMO.

[El Duderino]

If worthy is healthy there's no way he doesn't make the team IMO.

If he looks as crappy in mini-camps and training camp as he did in his rookie year, i could see Worthy getting cut.

I remember Ron Wolf in his book saying that one of the hardest lessons he had to learn as a GM was to admit to himself when he made a mistake with a higher draft pick or free agent signing and let a player go if it's in the best interest of the team.

Of course it's certainly possible that Worthy will play better in camp this year and deserve to be on the roster, but if not, Ted has to suck up his pride as he did with Brohm and cut ties with Worthy.

[xTitan]

How many D-linemen are sure things this season?

Mike Daniels
BJ Raji
Datone Jones
Josh Boyd
Jerel Worthy

They can easily write off Neal and Peppers as hybrid LB/DE bodies if they wanted to. I know that they have some plan to play Peppers as some sort of hybrid specialist. I think that they could bring back Jolly if they thought he could play.

Worthy is far from a sure thing

[FAH1223]

Speaking of Pickett

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[askdavescat]

If worthy is healthy there's no way he doesn't make the team IMO.

If he looks as crappy in mini-camps and training camp as he did in his rookie year, i could see Worthy getting cut.

I remember Ron Wolf in his book saying that one of the hardest lessons he had to learn as a GM was to admit to himself when he made a mistake with a higher draft pick or free agent signing and let a player go if it's in the best interest of the team.

Of course it's certainly possible that Worthy will play better in camp this year and deserve to be on the roster, but if not, Ted has to suck up his pride as he did with Brohm and cut ties with Worthy.

If Ted ends up drafting Nix, it wouldn't surprise me to see Worthy released before OTA's even begin.

[Charles Lee Ray]

Worthy had a serious injury, he'll be back this year like his old self. There was reason he was a projected 1st round pick. Settle down neg nancy.

[humanrefutation]

Worthy had a serious injury, he'll be back this year like his old self. There was reason he was a projected 1st round pick. Settle down neg nancy.

The problem is that his old self, whatever you mean by that, was pretty ****. It's not like he dominated his rookie year. He was pretty terrible.

So, if he comes back as "his old self," he'll deserve to get cut. He needs to come back with something new.

[humanrefutation]

Jolly is apparently going to be cleared in a couple weeks, and if you look at his twitter timeline, he's clearly pining to be back in Green Bay.

[Papa_Grande]

I'd much rather Jolly than Worthy, that is if both are healthy. There really isn't any argument to make against it.

[Newz]

I'm not going to say Worthy is going to be a stud or anything. The guy might be a total bust.

But you guys are awfully quick to write off a guy who was drafted in the second round and has only really got to play one year. If he comes into camp and is just downright awful, I would cut him too. But it seems like you guys are writing him off as a total scrub without even giving him an opportunity.

[askdavescat]

I'm not going to say Worthy is going to be a stud or anything. The guy might be a total bust.

But you guys are awfully quick to write off a guy who was drafted in the second round and has only really got to play one year. If he comes into camp and is just downright awful, I would cut him too. But it seems like you guys are writing him off as a total scrub without even giving him an opportunity.

The reason I have my doubts about Worthy is that when he did play, from what I saw, he just kept standing up and dancing; he showed no ability/inclination to get low and penetrate. There are always exceptions to the rule, but from what I've observed over the years, guys who stand up seldom, if ever, really learn how to consistently stay low.

I would love to be wrong - I would love to see Worthy figure it out. I'm not holding my breath, though.

[Frank Nova]

If worthy is healthy there's no way he doesn't make the team IMO.

If he looks as crappy in mini-camps and training camp as he did in his rookie year, i could see Worthy getting cut.

I remember Ron Wolf in his book saying that one of the hardest lessons he had to learn as a GM was to admit to himself when he made a mistake with a higher draft pick or free agent signing and let a player go if it's in the best interest of the team.

Of course it's certainly possible that Worthy will play better in camp this year and deserve to be on the roster, but if not, Ted has to suck up his pride as he did with Brohm and cut ties with Worthy.

That's alittle premature on Worthy isn't it? Regardless of training camp and that entire process, Worthy has in game on field production under his belt. The Packers know what he can do when fully healthy hence why I said if he's cleared and 100% id bet money he has a roster spot.

I'll just use Justin Harrell for example because it's easy. How many years was he kept around on IR and on the roster? Ron Wolf was definitely right but every GM is different in terms of self pride and it's pretty obvious TT thinks pretty highly of himself (as he should), but, it took him a long long time to cut ties with Harrell without ever seeing any substance so I'm gonna believe Worthy isn't in danger of losing his spot yet.

Maybe u don't think Worthy is good and u personally want him gone? Idk, seems that way. I'm actually a fan of Worthy and think he can be a very good DL for us. If he can stay healthy he has loads of value. TT won't bite his nose off despite his face by prematurely cutting Worthy and him being successful elsewhere. Positions play huge parts in terms of potential success. QBs aren't hard to tell, they get it or they don't. Brohm simply didn't and it was very noticeable, not exactly a difficult decision. Worthy might actually have something and if he stays on the field he's an asset. He fits the scheme and profile.

[xTitan]

If worthy is healthy there's no way he doesn't make the team IMO.

If he looks as crappy in mini-camps and training camp as he did in his rookie year, i could see Worthy getting cut.

I remember Ron Wolf in his book saying that one of the hardest lessons he had to learn as a GM was to admit to himself when he made a mistake with a higher draft pick or free agent signing and let a player go if it's in the best interest of the team.

Of course it's certainly possible that Worthy will play better in camp this year and deserve to be on the roster, but if not, Ted has to suck up his pride as he did with Brohm and cut ties with Worthy.

That's alittle premature on Worthy isn't it? Regardless of training camp and that entire process, Worthy has in game on field production under his belt. The Packers know what he can do when fully healthy hence why I said if he's cleared and 100% id bet money he has a roster spot.

I'll just use Justin Harrell for example because it's easy. How many years was he kept around on IR and on the roster? Ron Wolf was definitely right but every GM is different in terms of self pride and it's pretty obvious TT thinks pretty highly of himself (as he should), but, it took him a long long time to cut ties with Harrell without ever seeing any substance so I'm gonna believe Worthy isn't in danger of losing his spot yet.

Maybe u don't think Worthy is good and u personally want him gone? Idk, seems that way. I'm actually a fan of Worthy and think he can be a very good DL for us. If he can stay healthy he has loads of value. TT won't bite his nose off despite his face by prematurely cutting Worthy and him being successful elsewhere. Positions play huge parts in terms of potential success. QBs aren't hard to tell, they get it or they don't. Brohm simply didn't and it was very noticeable, not exactly a difficult decision. Worthy might actually have something and if he stays on the field he's an asset. He fits the scheme and profile.

Did you actually watch Worthy play his rookie year? Worthy was awful as a rookie, massive disappointment who couldn't hold his water. Teddy traded up to get Reyes, unfortunately San Diego beat him to the punch.

[Frank Nova]

Maybe I'm confusing Worthy with Daniels or someone else then? Idk I mean Worthy hasn't played in 2yrs I thought I remembered him having a good initial burst and being a little disruptive. But like I said maybe I'm mistaken...

[ahoernke21]

There's no reason to count out Worthy at this stage. If he isn't healthy come training camp and we need the roster spot OK, but Ted has definitely given injury riddled high draft picks every chance to succeed. Someone mentioned Justin Harrell, I would add Derek Sherrod to that list and say Worthy is not in imminent danger of being cut at the moment.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Guion's contract is worth less than a million dollars this season.

[emunney]

I think Worthy will be cut if he's not ready to play. That said, we haven't yet brought back Pickett, Jolly, or CJ Wilson, so there's definitely a spot for Worthy if he's prepared to grab it.

[Profound23]

I hope Worthy is ready to go and plays well. I had high hopes for him coming out of Michigan St.

[eagle13]

That's alittle premature on Worthy isn't it? Regardless of training camp and that entire process, Worthy has in game on field production under his belt. The Packers know what he can do when fully healthy hence why I said if he's cleared and 100% id bet money he has a roster spot.

I'll just use Justin Harrell for example because it's easy. How many years was he kept around on IR and on the roster? Ron Wolf was definitely right but every GM is different in terms of self pride and it's pretty obvious TT thinks pretty highly of himself (as he should), but, it took him a long long time to cut ties with Harrell without ever seeing any substance so I'm gonna believe Worthy isn't in danger of losing his spot yet.

Maybe u don't think Worthy is good and u personally want him gone? Idk, seems that way. I'm actually a fan of Worthy and think he can be a very good DL for us. If he can stay healthy he has loads of value. TT won't bite his nose off despite his face by prematurely cutting Worthy and him being successful elsewhere. Positions play huge parts in terms of potential success. QBs aren't hard to tell, they get it or they don't. Brohm simply didn't and it was very noticeable, not exactly a difficult decision. Worthy might actually have something and if he stays on the field he's an asset. He fits the scheme and profile.

obviously. His college quick twitch has become pro off-sides penaltes. Any vet QB can draw Worthy off sides with an irregular cadence. Worthy jumped off sides on consecutive downs twice in one game.

[Charles Lee Ray]

Stop getting so hung up on the rookie year, plenty of players have not so great rookie years and succeed. Whoever the one is who keeps harping on that needs to get a clue. Worthy was a good college player and projected 1st round pick. He had a significant injury but now should be back full strength. Give him a damn chance. BTW love the guion signing.