Will Andrew wiggins be a great player in the NBA?

The Infamous1 · Post #281 » by **The Infamous1** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:16 pm

Worst case scenario prime rudy gay with all defensive 1st team defense

Sebastian · Post #282 » by **Sebastian** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:20 pm

The Infamous1 wrote:Worst case scenario prime rudy gay with all defensive 1st team defense

I was about to ask what separates Wiggins from Gay coming out of college. They're very, very similar.

What you're describing (prime Gay + elite D) is probably Wiggins' ceiling, not floor. That's a top 10 player and perennial all-star.

rockmanslim · Post #283 » by **rockmanslim** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:25 pm

It will take Wiggins 2 or 3 seasons at bare minimum to acquire the skills to even become a first option on offense, if ever. At his age, learning ballhandling/playmaking almost from scratch, which is what he'd be trying to do, is extremely rare. Watch any Kansas game this year, and pick any player on the floor on either team at random, other than Wiggins. Chances are that that random player has better handles and coordination with the ball than Wiggins, even if you happened to pick a freshman.

CousinOfDeath · Post #284 » by **CousinOfDeath** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:26 pm

snomeister wrote:
three2theD wrote:
THE GOAT ROSE wrote:He will be great.

I see Wiggins as a Top 5 NBA player in 3 years.

He looks like a future beast on defense. Not sure if he will be as good as Jimmy Butler but still.

He doesn't look like a KD type scorer but he should get his 22 points in his prime.

He is fast and athletic. Should be entertaining to watch him play.

He'll need more than 22 points per and Jimmy Butler D to be a top 5 player.

Paul George isn't a top 5 player?

Not even close.

frozt · Post #285 » by **frozt** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:33 pm

I just don't see the willingness to take over a game, maybe it's just the product of the system. I guess Wiggins could thrive in the secondary position until he develops his game.

laika · Post #286 » by **laika** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:33 pm

Wiggins was atrocious today.

I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

Embiid- injury prone.
Wiggins- not enough basketball skills
Parker- not athletic enough

It gets worse from there.

Induveca · Post #287 » by **Induveca** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:36 pm

laika wrote:Wiggins was atrocious today.

I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

Embiid- injury prone.
Wiggins- not enough basketball skills
Parker- not athletic enough

It gets worse from there.

Agreed. I'd take Randle over all of them. His kentucky supporting guys are awful and he still produces.

chappadon · Post #288 » by **chappadon** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:42 pm

What the hell was Wiggins doing all game?

snoopdogg88 · Post #289 » by **snoopdogg88** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:43 pm

i'm trying to tell people, Exum is the superstar from this draft.

the mysterious australian. next kobe

Sc0pe92 · Post #290 » by **Sc0pe92** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:43 pm

Wow what a way to stink it up

NaturalBuns · Post #291 » by **NaturalBuns** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:49 pm

laika wrote:Wiggins was atrocious today.

I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

Embiid- injury prone.
Wiggins- not enough basketball skills
Parker- not athletic enough

It gets worse from there.

LOL
Parker is no less athletic then melo at the SF.
wiggins not enough pure skills uses his athleticism?
Sounds like a young Kobe and lebron.

Embiid injury prone?
Dwight says hi.

Best post of the day by far.

Lemme guess when KD played for Texas the knock on him was he was to skinny he would get abused :lol:

Gotta save this thread

BadWolf · Post #292 » by **BadWolf** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:52 pm

The Infamous1 wrote:Worst case scenario prime rudy gay with all defensive 1st team defense

I remember when westbrook came out, sports guy said he's all nba defense right now. He has the tools and can be elite, but first options usually take time off on defense...

frozt · Post #293 » by **frozt** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:53 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:
laika wrote:Wiggins was atrocious today.

I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

Embiid- injury prone.
Wiggins- not enough basketball skills
Parker- not athletic enough

It gets worse from there.

LOL
Parker is no less athletic then melo at the SF.
wiggins not enough pure skills uses his athleticism?
Sounds like a young Kobe and lebron.

Embiid injury prone?
Dwight says hi.

Best post of the day by far.

Lemme guess when KD played for Texas the knock on him was he was to skinny he would get abused

Gotta save this thread

When was Dwight Howard ever injury prone rofl. :lol:

laika · Post #294 » by **laika** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:55 pm

NaturalBuns wrote:
laika wrote:Wiggins was atrocious today.

I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

Embiid- injury prone.
Wiggins- not enough basketball skills
Parker- not athletic enough

It gets worse from there.

LOL
Parker is no less athletic then melo at the SF.
wiggins not enough pure skills uses his athleticism?
Sounds like a young Kobe and lebron.

Embiid injury prone?
Dwight says hi.

Best post of the day by far.

Lemme guess when KD played for Texas the knock on him was he was to skinny he would get abused

Gotta save this thread

I guarantee Parker will never be as good as Anthony. Kobe and Lebron were way better in high school than Wiggins is now.

But go ahead and save this thread. I guess we'll see in a few years.

ManualRam · Post #295 » by **ManualRam** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:57 pm

The Infamous1 wrote:Worst case scenario prime rudy gay with all defensive 1st team defense

nah. he'd have to improve his ball skills and 1 on 1 ability tremendously and he'd have to become a completely different player in terms of temperament to become what rudy has offensively.
sounds more like a more realistic comparison than a worse case scenario.

ManualRam · Post #296 » by **ManualRam** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:58 pm

laika wrote:
I'm beginning to think that this draft class is overrated. Every player in the draft has significant questions.

beginning to? what took you so long?

Post #297 » by **Doctor MJ** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:06 pm

Stunning how underwhelming this putative GOAT draft has been. It's comical watching these guys and comparing them to Davis in '12.

Q C · Post #298 » by **Q C** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:09 pm

I'm struggling to come up with anything tangible that makes Andrew Wiggins more impressive than Terrence Ross besides 2 inches of height.

VSharms · Post #299 » by **VSharms** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:09 pm

Kansas doesn't use Wiggins right. They should be working to get him the ball more early in the offense or having more movement in their offense but instead they just let him float on the three point line. Even keeping him in the post would've been good against the zone today. College basketball is a bit different with a smaller court, the style of play is meant for jump shooters. Kansas has no real good play makers to help Wiggins out either.

Q C · Post #300 » by **Q C** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:12 pm

VSharms wrote:Kansas doesn't use Wiggins right. They should be working to get him the ball more early in the offense or having more movement in their offense but instead they just let him float on the three point line. Even keeping him in the post would've been good against the zone today. College basketball is a bit different with a smaller court, the style of play is meant for jump shooters. Kansas has no real good play makers to help Wiggins out either.

He was supposed to BE the playmaker to help the others out.