2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[Negrodamus]

^^^^ I think James Young would be crazy to go back. Coach Cal hasn't helped him or the Twins become better. And since he will over-recruit their positions, you never know if he is going g to show loyalty to his returning players.

Signed,

Terrence Jones
Doron Lamb
Darius Miller
Josh Harrellson (btw, this guy is in the NBA because of Calipari. Seriously. He is a goon)
DeAndre Liggins
Alex Poythress
Willie Cauley Stein

All players who stuck around for a year or more. All in the NBA or draft prospects.

And to say that Calipari hasn't helped the Twins is a completely insane statement. The difference between the Harrisons at the beginning of the season and now is unbelievable, and I'm not saying this because of the game last night.

Insane? Poythress and Willie Caulie-Stein are on the bench right now, sitting behind Freshmen.

Insane was in reference to Calipari not improving the Harrison's game, which he very clearly did.

Calipari doesn't play freshmen just to do it. He plays the players that give us the best chance to win the game. In the case of WCS, he hasn't done a good job of giving him more minutes than Dakari. That isn't due to WCS being a sophomore, but rather WCS was in the dog house for playing like hot garbage in the middle of the season. Unfortunately, he is injured, but he was the most valuable player UK had on defense over the past 5 or 6 games.

Poythress doesn't play because he doesn't run the system on offense well. He has started to play better as the season progressed, but he's been pretty timid at driving to the basket. That's an issue in the Dribble-Drive offense. He's been much better as a player that comes off the bench and injects athleticism and energy on the boards.

Also, WCS was playing as many, if not more, minutes than Dakari was. Starting doesn't really mean anything if you're taken out after being on the court for 2 minutes.

[76erPhan]

Perfect Draft Night:

1st pick: Wiggins

Trade Thad Young, Sixers 2nd rd pick and Houston's 2nd rd pick to Sacramento for the 6th pick (based on Young-Cousins rumor from last year)

6th pick: Randle (great 2nd option to Wiggins and also great fit with Noel with scoring and rebounding)

11th pick: LaVine (athletic shooter great fit between Wiggins and MCW)

39th pick: Isaiah Austin (shooter at 4 or 5 who can also block shots. Like him as 3rd big man that would be able to play with Noel or Randle)

Noel/Sims
Randle/Austin/Varnado
Wiggins/Thompson
LaVine/Wroten
MCW

Really good blend of offense and defense. Very athletic team that could run and would be good in the halfcourt.

[snoopdogg88]

you seriously think thad young and 2 2nd round picks is going to get us the 6th overall pick?

[76erPhan]

Well my thought on that is first Sacramento supposedly almost traded Cousins for Thad Young last year at the draft, so they must like him. Second, maybe they would want a veteran player instead of that pick. Vonleh is too raw and Randle is not a good fit with Cousins. Sometimes a team like Sacremento, also Cleveland, that are in the lottery almost every year would rather have a veteran than a rookie.

[MRxBLACK]

Don't want Isaiah Austin. He's a poor man's Byron Mullens. Physically can't play any defense due to severe lack of strength, quickness, and vision. Would be a waste of a 2nd rounder.

[Negrodamus]

Well my thought on that is first Sacramento supposedly almost traded Cousins for Thad Young last year at the draft, so they must like him. Second, maybe they would want a veteran player instead of that pick. Vonleh is too raw and Randle is not a good fit with Cousins. Sometimes a team like Sacremento, also Cleveland, that are in the lottery almost every year would rather have a veteran than a rookie.

Wait, was this trade rumor well documented? If so, we are a very stupid franchise to not do that.

[Negrodamus]

Don't want Isaiah Austin. He's a poor man's Byron Mullens. Physically can't play any defense due to severe lack of strength, quickness, and vision. Would be a waste of a 2nd rounder.

Literally lack of vision. He only sees out of one eye. Isaiah really isn't that good.

[76erPhan]

Don't want Isaiah Austin. He's a poor man's Byron Mullens. Physically can't play any defense due to severe lack of strength, quickness, and vision. Would be a waste of a 2nd rounder.

You're right but for a second round pick, he could become a good value. He can come off the bench, protect the rim and spread the floor. If/when he adds strength, he would become a better defender and rebounder. He's very long and his vision didn't seem to hurt him in college. I know he didn't put up huge numbers, but he still produced. He's a rare player (shooter, shot blocker) which I believes makes him worth the risk.

[OleSchool]

Well my thought on that is first Sacramento supposedly almost traded Cousins for Thad Young last year at the draft, so they must like him. Second, maybe they would want a veteran player instead of that pick. Vonleh is too raw and Randle is not a good fit with Cousins. Sometimes a team like Sacremento, also Cleveland, that are in the lottery almost every year would rather have a veteran than a rookie.

If Hinkie could pull off getting the 6th pick, in a stacked draft for Young and 2 2nds then I am convinced he has jedi mind-trick powers.

[LloydFree]

Don't want Isaiah Austin. He's a poor man's Byron Mullens. Physically can't play any defense due to severe lack of strength, quickness, and vision. Would be a waste of a 2nd rounder.

Nobody is a poor man's Byron Mullens. Based on Austin's current skill/production and what Mullens showed in HS and college, he is better than Byron Mullens. Mullens avg 8-4-1 in collge. Austin avg 12-7-2. I'd say Austin offers more upside, due to the shot blocking. I'm not sure what guys believe will be available in the 2nd round, but Austin offers about as much as the other future back-ups that will be there at #32.

[FlightBrothers]

If Gordon declares, I think someone in the top 10 will fall in love with his "potential". His shooting is legendarily bad and he is mentally between positions and taking a defensive only player in the top 10 is weird and potentially dangerous as it he could never be more than that...

and yet...kid just wins

I'll take his motor, defense, athletic ability, rebounding and bank on an 18 year improving his offensive game.

Offense was off tonight, but came up with some big shotsdown the stretch and 18 rebounds.

We'd be extremely lucky if we were able to draft Gordon with the Pelicans pick...

[ankle420breaker]

You have to figure that Wiggins, Parker, Embiid, Randle, Exum, Smart, Vonleh, Ennis, and Gordon will be off the board by the time the Pels pick comes around. Sure, there's a chance someone falls to us, but at this point I'm setting my sights on Kyle Anderson with our 2nd pick.

[FreesFro]

If Gordon declares, I think someone in the top 10 will fall in love with his "potential". His shooting is legendarily bad and he is mentally between positions and taking a defensive only player in the top 10 is weird and potentially dangerous as it he could never be more than that...

and yet...kid just wins

I'll take his motor, defense, athletic ability, rebounding and bank on an 18 year improving his offensive game.

Offense was off tonight, but came up with some big shotsdown the stretch and 18 rebounds.

We'd be extremely lucky if we were able to draft Gordon with the Pelicans pick...

That's why I implied Hinkie would have to work his magic.

[SixerFever215]

If Gordon was OK with playing the 4 like he did the last half of year at Arizona I wouldn't mind the 76ers drafting Gordon with the pelicans pick.

[ankle420breaker]

If Gordon was OK with playing the 4 like he did the last half of year at Arizona I wouldn't mind the 76ers drafting Gordon with the pelicans pick.

I don't think anyone would mind Gordon with the Pels pick, but the odds of him still being on the board are slim to none.

[Kobblehead]

@'damus

Yeah, so much for nabbing our boy Napier in the 2nd round.

[sixers23]

napier is still a 2nd round pick. winning a few tourney games doesnt change the fact his game doesnt translate to the nba

[Mik317]

Poytress should be better than he is. Dude is a damn good athelete man,.

[MRxBLACK]

Stauskas owning Kentucky.

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[Hardcore6erFan]

What position you got him penciled in at the pro level?

Cleanthony Early is a small forward. I think he can be like prime Caron Butler which was pretty good.