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Re: Playoffs? Ya Kiddin me? Wizards vs. Bulls Game 1 Thread 

Post#1061 » by queridiculo » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:48 pm

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As weird as it sounds now, as long as Nene stays healthy, I have a hard time seeing the Wizards lose this series. The talent gap appears too wide. Even going 7 games seems unlikely. If the Wizards are going to play defense like they did for the final 18 minutes in the 2nd half yesterday, they could end this series in 5.


What worries me is what's going to happen when Nene and Gortat aren't playing as efficiently offensively.

Are Wall and Beal in particular going to be able to pick up the slack?

We saw what happened when Wall tried to press the issue. He started the game playing extremely disciplined, but his quick jumpers and careless turnovers got the Bulls out on the break scoring easy buckets.

This loss was a set back for the Bulls, but I doubt that Chicago is going to change anything about their approach.

They will continue to give Nene those midrange jumpers, key on the corner threes and pack the paint to limit Wall's effectiveness.

The other thing that worries me in this series is Booker. He's completely overmatched against Boozer, and doesn't match Gibson intensity and athleticism on the defensive end.

If Washington's offensive efficiency takes a hit, I'm worried that those secondary scoring opportunities the Bulls managed to get against us are going to be the difference in the game.
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Post#1062 » by Sonny Carson » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:52 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
Sonny Carson wrote:If you REALLY believe that....then you truly are off my friend. :lol:

Again, I'll quiet down on bringing up the issue of Wall needing to play great. But it was just his first playoff game. And no need for me to point out a negative after such a great win. Cause again..it was just one game. No need for that. Especially for the "truther" in you. :lol:


Honestly, you always come in here when Wall does bad, you only rear your head when Wall has an off game, there is always some aspect of his game you feel compelled to highlight. You're not a wiz fan, I know that much (You're a Heat fan, right? That's reason enough to despise you :evil: ), but you follow Wall's career with some odd obsession with regards to Kyrie (who I think can still become a considerable player) but at least for myself, I hold John to a standard that I'd want my franchise player to be at, not at how pretty his crossover and 3 pt shooting may be. You can come and critique Wall, that is fine, but do it with some context. Wall was mediocre in scoring yesterday, no one will debate that, but with the way he defended down the stretch, he did his part. No one is going to shoot efficiently against the Bulls from the perimeter, especially your primary ball handler.

The most important stat is the W. This isn't fantasy basketball anymore.

And for the record, I'm a bit of an ****, so far that, I apologize.


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Post#1063 » by Darko Miliminutes » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:57 pm

Wizardspride wrote:Don't pay any attention to Sonny.

His definition of how well someone plays is almost solely predicated on how much they score.


Unfortunately, you're describing the majority.
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Post#1064 » by mohammed10 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:08 pm

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Post#1065 » by DCZards » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:10 pm

queridiculo wrote:What worries me is what's going to happen when Nene and Gortat aren't playing as efficiently offensively.

Are Wall and Beal in particular going to be able to pick up the slack?

We saw what happened when Wall tried to press the issue. He started the game playing extremely disciplined, but his quick jumpers and careless turnovers got the Bulls out on the break scoring easy buckets.

This loss was a set back for the Bulls, but I doubt that Chicago is going to change anything about their approach.

They will continue to give Nene those midrange jumpers, key on the corner threes and pack the paint to limit Wall's effectiveness.

The other thing that worries me in this series is Booker. He's completely overmatched against Boozer, and doesn't match Gibson intensity and athleticism on the defensive end.

If Washington's offensive efficiency takes a hit, I'm worried that those secondary scoring opportunities the Bulls managed to get against us are going to be the difference in the game.



I don't expect Nene and Gortat to play as well every game as they did last night. (Of course, I hope I'm wrong.) But I do expect Wall and/or Beal to pick up the slack if one or both of the big men struggle next game. I think it was fantastic that the Zards were able to win without either Wall or Beal having big scoring games. I expect both of our young guards to play better as they get more comfortable with being in the playoffs. (Although, I loved the fact that Beal and Wall made their free throws, especially down the stretch.)

As for Booker vs. Gibson/Boozer, I'm hoping to see more Gooden, who I think match up better with the Chicago duo...at least on the boards.
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Post#1066 » by daSwami » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:23 pm

So, who's going start the Wiz/Hawks thread?
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Post#1067 » by Hypnotizer » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:24 pm

mohammed10 wrote:Be there...aloha

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Game 2 at 9:30 pm
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Post#1068 » by mohammed10 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:25 pm

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mohammed10 wrote:Be there...aloha

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Game 2 at 9:30 pm


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Post#1069 » by Kanyewest » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:31 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:
Sonny Carson wrote:Easy matchup or not.

4-14 shooting nights isnt going to cut it. Kirk Hinrich playing just as well....isnt going to cut it. Tough matchup or not.

Its like Shaq said about Dwight Howard last night....Its Robin Lopez....dominate him. Its DJ Augustine, John, dominate him.

We saw him have a couple games where he gave the Bulls work. Why shouldnt we EXPECT that...and maybe more in the playoffs? The best players usually kick it up a notch, unless I'm mistaken. I'm not saying he cant....I'm saying thats what he needs to do. Games like last night wont be beat the Bulls, Pacers, Hawks more times than not.


Wonders how Kyrie's first playoff game went...oh wait.... ;)


Kyrie = Not good enough to make the playoffs.

So far..

Lillard/Teague = Star playoff performers.

Wall = Ok, but needs to step it up like his peers in the playoff.


Houston's defense is terrible. Indiana is playing like they are in a coma. The Bulls defense is something else
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Post#1070 » by Kanyewest » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:31 pm

Sonny Carson wrote:Easy matchup or not.

4-14 shooting nights isnt going to cut it. Kirk Hinrich playing just as well....isnt going to cut it. Tough matchup or not.

Its like Shaq said about Dwight Howard last night....Its Robin Lopez....dominate him. Its DJ Augustine, John, dominate him.

We saw him have a couple games where he gave the Bulls work. Why shouldnt we EXPECT that...and maybe more in the playoffs? The best players usually kick it up a notch, unless I'm mistaken. I'm not saying he cant....I'm saying thats what he needs to do. Games like last night wont be beat the Bulls, Pacers, Hawks more times than not.


Shaq is wrong about Howard. Howard just isn't that good to get 30 and 15 on a per game.
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Post#1071 » by Youheardme90 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:35 pm

dobrojim wrote:
nate33 wrote:
barelyawake wrote:A) As I said, the concept that we are better without Nene (in a postseason environment) is god damned silly.

I agree 100%. Was it PIF who was spouting that nonsense? Booker had a string of statistically good games against some horrible competition, but it's absurd to even contemplate that the team is better off with him getting Nene's minutes.

I really like that Wittman put Nene on the Beal Shift - taking him out early so that he could come back in with the 2nd unit.


not to implicitly defend EG, but anyone think we win this game with a healthy JaVale
instead of Nene?


Would we even be in the playoffs with JaVale McGee ?
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Post#1072 » by Nivek » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:45 pm

Youheardme90 wrote:
dobrojim wrote:
nate33 wrote:I agree 100%. Was it PIF who was spouting that nonsense? Booker had a string of statistically good games against some horrible competition, but it's absurd to even contemplate that the team is better off with him getting Nene's minutes.

I really like that Wittman put Nene on the Beal Shift - taking him out early so that he could come back in with the 2nd unit.


not to implicitly defend EG, but anyone think we win this game with a healthy JaVale
instead of Nene?


Would we even be in the playoffs with JaVale McGee ?


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Post#1073 » by Ruzious » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
Sonny Carson wrote:Easy matchup or not.

4-14 shooting nights isnt going to cut it. Kirk Hinrich playing just as well....isnt going to cut it. Tough matchup or not.

Its like Shaq said about Dwight Howard last night....Its Robin Lopez....dominate him. Its DJ Augustine, John, dominate him.

We saw him have a couple games where he gave the Bulls work. Why shouldnt we EXPECT that...and maybe more in the playoffs? The best players usually kick it up a notch, unless I'm mistaken. I'm not saying he cant....I'm saying thats what he needs to do. Games like last night wont be beat the Bulls, Pacers, Hawks more times than not.


Shaq is wrong about Howard. Howard just isn't that good to get 30 and 15 on a per game.

And Houston doesn't run their offense through Howard, so he can't just say I'm going to take enough shots to get 30. If Harden and Lin choose not to pass it to him, he's not going to score except on put-backs. For the most part, it's out of his control.
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Post#1074 » by mohammed10 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 pm

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Post#1075 » by tontoz » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:05 pm

Let's not forget who started the game thread.....TGW. :clap:
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Post#1076 » by dlts20 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:10 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
dlts20 wrote:I forgot to add that Teague has Milsap also. Thats 2 stretch bigs who can shoot 3's like a guard, bringing Hibbert & West way out the paint. On the contrast, a million bulls fans were mad yesterday that Noah was giving Nene so much room on the J. Why was he doing that? Because Thibbs 1st priority is to shut down the lane on Wall. He wants Kirk to hound him tight & hard with Noah sitting in the paint. The game plan is to take Wall away and play everyone else one on one. Thats why I thought it was smart by Witt to play through Nene until they adjust.


So basically Witt was using Nene as a stretch 4 which was spreading the floor... I would have to go back through the game, but I saw several chances for Wall to get to the hoop - he just didn't take them.

That isn't bashing Wall, just saying that he wasn't looking to attack as much as one would hope. In the half court sets I would guess he drove (and took the shot) only 20% of the time. He did attach (and score) a couple of times on TOs as I recall.

I would say that ratio is just about flipped for Teague in his game against Indiana. And I think Indiana's D is pretty good (not Chicago but still...)

I think this is something that posters that have watched the Wizards all year long have been frustrated with... good offensive PGs seem to be able to find there way inside at will - and we all hope John figures out that part of his game.

dont get it twisted. He couldve played better and he didnt take advantage of every oppurtunity. I felt some of his non aggressive was also just by Witt though with the team ball movement being the way to beat their D.

However, I feel very good about Wall & Beal. They had a bit of nervous energy but never looked scared or intimidated. I think its one of those things where they just got those playoff nerves out the way and I expect Wall to be alot more aggressive from here on
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Post#1077 » by dlts20 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:12 pm

Brad couldnt shoot but I can live with this Beal all day. He's not going to kill us. The guy who kills us is the Beal that was chucking non stop for 3 quarters of the year like he was MJ. Now he doesnt force much and doesnt take a ton of shots. He's actually moving the ball well in the halfcourt, therefore I dont get as upset at him as I did before. I just cant take chucking and missing.
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Post#1078 » by dlts20 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:14 pm

on a side note, if you look at our roster, we are built for the playoffs. There arent too many teams that are more complete. We have the athletic ability, we have 2 low post bigs, we have depth, we have shooting, we have a dynamic playmaking PG, we have quality defensive players, we have young guys, we have vets. The only one thing we may not have is a pure go to scorer that you know can get you 30 whenever you nee it but we make up for that with having pretty much 5 scoring options on the floor at all times. We can be a very dangerous out
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Post#1079 » by montestewart » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:15 pm

Somehow we were tuned in on how often Buckhantz says "the big Brazilian" and Nene's on game made it seem very comical. That Buckhantz sure knows how to milk a line into dust.
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Post#1080 » by AFM » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:16 pm

We are the best team in the league IMO.

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