Sterling banned for life from the NBA (P. 40)

[Forza Barca]

Sterling is not Israeli and has little connection with Israel himself.

To state that "he shares a thought process many Israelis hold" is making the same kind of inherent stereotypical generalizations that Sterling made about African Americans and Hispanics.

He justified his racism by stating the environment in Israel which has long had an issue regarding the treatment of Black people. You can sweep this under the rug if you'd like but there is a problem in Israel. I will not argue this further as this can derail the thread.

He justified his racism in many different ways and none of them made any sense.

There is a problem of discrimination in Israel just like there is a discrimination problem in nearly every country that exists today.

It is not institutionalized against blacks and it is not part of the law as you mistakenly made earlier. The country has a separation of powers system under a parliamentary government that provides equality under the law and the ability to fight discrimination in court.

To assert these claims simply on a statement made by Sterling is making the same kind of stereotypical generalizations about minorities.

Not every country in the world can arguably be called an Apartheid state like Israel.

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

[TheGoodDoctor]

Sterling is fecal matter and Silver is a spineless weasel.

[OvertimeNO]

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

Except that it's been an open secret for basically forever that Donald Sterling is a racist POS. I find it difficult to believe that someone like, say, Doc Rivers, would be as entirely ignorant of this as he claims.

That's the part that I don't get. It's not like Rivers (or any free agent who's gone to the Clips) didn't have a choice in the matter.

Was it about the money? Probably not. Players and coaches, unless they're supremely, supremely bad, usually have a choice of a number of teams willing to give them millions of dollars.

Was it about winning? Maybe. The Clips are contenders. But is a championship really worth working for someone who thinks most of your teammates, and possibly you, are a lesser human being?

I can't honestly answer this one, nor can I pass judgement. As far as I know, I don't think my boss holds racist views towards me. Personally, I wouldn't have taken the job if he did, regardless of the compensation. And especially if a similar job was being offered by a non-racist. But that's just me.

[IMAN5]

chris paul, dj, blake and doc are all pissed.

sterling you're screwed and it's no longer your team. sell it for whatever you can get.

[J-Roc]

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

Except that it's been an open secret for basically forever that Donald Sterling is a racist POS. I find it difficult to believe that someone like, say, Doc Rivers, would be as entirely ignorant of this as he claims.

That's the part that I don't get. It's not like Rivers (or any free agent who's gone to the Clips) didn't have a choice in the matter.

Was it about the money? Probably not. Players and coaches, unless they're supremely, supremely bad, usually have a choice of a number of teams willing to give them millions of dollars.

Was it about winning? Maybe. The Clips are contenders. But is a championship really worth working for someone who thinks most of your teammates, and possibly you, are a lesser human being?

I can't honestly answer this one, nor can I pass judgement. As far as I know, I don't think my boss holds racist views towards me. Personally, I wouldn't have taken the job if he did, regardless of the compensation. And especially if a similar job was being offered by a non-racist. But that's just me.

But what's the explanation for the NAACP thing?

[RaptorJ]

He justified his racism by stating the environment in Israel which has long had an issue regarding the treatment of Black people. You can sweep this under the rug if you'd like but there is a problem in Israel. I will not argue this further as this can derail the thread.

He justified his racism in many different ways and none of them made any sense.

There is a problem of discrimination in Israel just like there is a discrimination problem in nearly every country that exists today.

It is not institutionalized against blacks and it is not part of the law as you mistakenly made earlier. The country has a separation of powers system under a parliamentary government that provides equality under the law and the ability to fight discrimination in court.

To assert these claims simply on a statement made by Sterling is making the same kind of stereotypical generalizations about minorities.

Not every country in the world can arguably be called an Apartheid state like Israel.

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

And this thread is slowly turning into a Jew-bashing session, as expected. Been quite a few subtle comments over the past few pages.

[OvertimeNO]

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

Except that it's been an open secret for basically forever that Donald Sterling is a racist POS. I find it difficult to believe that someone like, say, Doc Rivers, would be as entirely ignorant of this as he claims.

That's the part that I don't get. It's not like Rivers (or any free agent who's gone to the Clips) didn't have a choice in the matter.

Was it about the money? Probably not. Players and coaches, unless they're supremely, supremely bad, usually have a choice of a number of teams willing to give them millions of dollars.

Was it about winning? Maybe. The Clips are contenders. But is a championship really worth working for someone who thinks most of your teammates, and possibly you, are a lesser human being?

I can't honestly answer this one, nor can I pass judgement. As far as I know, I don't think my boss holds racist views towards me. Personally, I wouldn't have taken the job if he did, regardless of the compensation. And especially if a similar job was being offered by a non-racist. But that's just me.

But what's the explanation for the NAACP thing?

AFAIK, it was the LA chapter of the NAACP. They already honoured him once, in 2009, despite the Elgin Baylor stuff and the whole him being a slumlord thing, and despite the national organization urging them not to. Which makes me wonder if there's something shady going on with the LA chapter at least.

http://deadspin.com/naacp-to-honor-noted-racist-donald-sterling-again-1568142191

Edit: The more I read about this, the more cynical I get, and the less respect I have for pretty much everyone involved.

[Steelo Green]

I dunno if this was posted but there's another tape...

http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/27/do ... ack-people

[Forza Barca]

He justified his racism in many different ways and none of them made any sense.

There is a problem of discrimination in Israel just like there is a discrimination problem in nearly every country that exists today.

It is not institutionalized against blacks and it is not part of the law as you mistakenly made earlier. The country has a separation of powers system under a parliamentary government that provides equality under the law and the ability to fight discrimination in court.

To assert these claims simply on a statement made by Sterling is making the same kind of stereotypical generalizations about minorities.

Not every country in the world can arguably be called an Apartheid state like Israel.

Anyway, to the topic, if this does not result in his ouster from the NBA, then I don't know what will. No player will ever, play for Donald Sterling again. And to think this guy was weeks away from receiving an award from the NAACP

And this thread is slowly turning into a Jew-bashing session, as expected. Been quite a few subtle comments over the past few pages.

Anti-Semitism is disgusting. Jews, historically have been one of the most persecuted minorities and the Holocaust remains one of the greatest tragedies in human history. But equating criticizing the State of Israel (which is a state) and equating that with anti-Semitism is one of the biggest media spin jobs of the modern era. Israel is ripe with racism - disgustingly high levels. Not because it stems from Judaism or because "Jews" occupy powerful positions within Israel but because it has been institutionalized on a state level by a power structure that benefits from such policies.

[Mr. Natural]

He did say it earlier.

You just made an inverted argument. My point was that Sterling is a nut and a strict exception of the Jewish community. The fact that statistically speaking, the majority of Jews are emphatically liberal and have supported the democratic party in large numbers in nearly every election in the past hundred years is a testament to that. Moreover, Jews were disproportionally involved in the civil rights movement in the 1960s and stood side by side with African Americans in protest against the American government.

To make generalizations about Jews based on the actions of one individual is simply skewed.

That would be like me saying that African Americans have not learned about their past because Louis Farrakhan is an anti-Semite.

Israeli's liberal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Except that it's been an open secret for basically forever that Donald Sterling is a racist POS. I find it difficult to believe that someone like, say, Doc Rivers, would be as entirely ignorant of this as he claims.

That's the part that I don't get. It's not like Rivers (or any free agent who's gone to the Clips) didn't have a choice in the matter.

Was it about the money? Probably not. Players and coaches, unless they're supremely, supremely bad, usually have a choice of a number of teams willing to give them millions of dollars.

Was it about winning? Maybe. The Clips are contenders. But is a championship really worth working for someone who thinks most of your teammates, and possibly you, are a lesser human being?

I can't honestly answer this one, nor can I pass judgement. As far as I know, I don't think my boss holds racist views towards me. Personally, I wouldn't have taken the job if he did, regardless of the compensation. And especially if a similar job was being offered by a non-racist. But that's just me.

But what's the explanation for the NAACP thing?

AFAIK, it was the LA chapter of the NAACP. They already honoured him once, in 2009, despite the Elgin Baylor stuff and the whole him being a slumlord thing, and despite the national organization urging them not to. Which makes me wonder if there's something shady going on with the LA chapter at least.

http://deadspin.com/naacp-to-honor-noted-racist-donald-sterling-again-1568142191

Edit: The more I read about this, the more cynical I get, and the less respect I have for pretty much everyone involved.

That first award from the LA NAACP was really perplexing. Did you read that ESPN piece from 2009 I linked to earlier in this thread? It sounds like they rolled over for him because he donated 10-15K that year and had been such a donor for years. 10-15K per gets you that? He probably spent a few hundred times that on legal fees over the years.

[OvertimeNO]

But what's the explanation for the NAACP thing?

AFAIK, it was the LA chapter of the NAACP. They already honoured him once, in 2009, despite the Elgin Baylor stuff and the whole him being a slumlord thing, and despite the national organization urging them not to. Which makes me wonder if there's something shady going on with the LA chapter at least.

http://deadspin.com/naacp-to-honor-noted-racist-donald-sterling-again-1568142191

Edit: The more I read about this, the more cynical I get, and the less respect I have for pretty much everyone involved.

That first award from the LA NAACP was really perplexing. Did you read that ESPN piece from 2009 I linked to earlier in this thread? It sounds like they rolled over for him because he donated 10-15K that year and had been such a donor for years. 10-15K per gets you that? He probably spent a few hundred times that on legal fees over the years.

Haven't had a chance to, no. That's pretty disgusting.

[RaptorJ]

How does this go from Donald Sterling to bashing Jews and Israelis? /smh this board...

[Spacing]

How does this go from Donald Sterling to bashing Jews and Israelis? /smh this board...

You've posted that about 3 times. Instead of posting stuff like that post something constructive to get the topic back on topic rather than continuing to push it off-topic.

This thread is about RACE.

NOT RELIGION.

[RaptorJ]

How does this go from Donald Sterling to bashing Jews and Israelis? /smh this board...

You've posted that about 3 times. Instead of posting stuff like that post something constructive to get the topic back on topic rather than continuing to push it off-topic.

This thread is about RACE.

NOT RELIGION.

Sorry, does drawing attention to the bigoted views of anti-Semitic posters offend you?

[Spacing]

How does this go from Donald Sterling to bashing Jews and Israelis? /smh this board...

You've posted that about 3 times. Instead of posting stuff like that post something constructive to get the topic back on topic rather than continuing to push it off-topic.

This thread is about RACE.

NOT RELIGION.

Sorry, does drawing attention to the bigoted views of anti-Semitic posters offend you?

Maybe you should do some research. Semites are NOT JUST Jewish people.

In fact, many scholars believe semites originated from an Arab Peninsula known as Mesopotamia (sp?) or what un-educated people, like yourself would call it today, Iraq/Kuwait.

All early Semites across the entire Near East appear to have originally been Polytheist. Mesopotamian religion is the earliest recorded and for three millennia was the most influential,[10] exerting strong influence on the later recorded Canaanite religions then practiced in what is today Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, the Palestinian territories and the Sinai Peninsula, and also those of the Arameans, Chaldeans, Phoenicians/Carthaginians and Arabs. The influence of Mesopotamian religion can also be found in Armenian and Graeco-Roman religion and to some degree upon the later Semitic Monotheistic religions of Judaism, Christianity, Mandaeism, Gnosticism and Islam.[11][12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Let's keep this on-topic.

[Danny1616]

Jewish people are like the least likely group in American culture to marry outside of their religion. Indian ppl may be close. I work in NY and a majority of my friends are Jewish, including a few fairly conservative ones. They're not racist but they would under no circumstances wed a non-Jewish girl.

Every culture has it's reasons for preferring x culture.

The rate of intermarriage among the American Jewish population is roughly 58 percent and has been gradually increasing.

I have no idea where you got that information from. Yes, of course the conservatives rarely intermarry, that is why they are conservatives.

You neglect that the heavy majority of American Jews are assimilated and liberal.

Again, just another stereotypical generalization about Jews which is far from true.

http://www.jta.org/2013/10/01/news-opin ... 58-percent

No offense but why do Jewish people have to make everything about themselves?

We are talking about racism in general. This has little to do with religion and more to do with race.

Race and Religion are different. stay on topic please.

Exactly my entire my point in this discussion.

But since Sterling is from Jewish origins there are people here making stereotypical generalizations about Jews, many of which are simply false.

[dTox]

People defending Stirling because of the way his GF exploited the tape is like defending a murderer because someone had taped the scene without his permission, the act in itself is disgusting and should be removed from society. And saying "this is old news, she isn't bringing anything new to the table" is exactly the kind of passive agressiveness that has allowed him to remain in ownership.

[Danny1616]

He did say it earlier.

You just made an inverted argument. My point was that Sterling is a nut and a strict exception of the Jewish community. The fact that statistically speaking, the majority of Jews are emphatically liberal and have supported the democratic party in large numbers in nearly every election in the past hundred years is a testament to that. Moreover, Jews were disproportionally involved in the civil rights movement in the 1960s and stood side by side with African Americans in protest against the American government.

To make generalizations about Jews based on the actions of one individual is simply skewed.

That would be like me saying that African Americans have not learned about their past because Louis Farrakhan is an anti-Semite.

Israeli's liberal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA

Selective video?

Read the description of the video you just posted. It explicitly stated right-wing activists. These are the extreme sectors of Israeli society. Name me one country that does not have extreme right-wing nut jobs in society and the government. This does not characterize Israeli society as a whole. Far from it.

I can do the same thing that you just did.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cggZu0QQUU[/youtube]

Oh look, now the Israeli people are nice and even have a show that discusses discrimination openly.