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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#281 » by SD2042 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:28 pm

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azncorruptedo17 wrote: everyone's a racist in some way anyway.

yea....lol, no.

when people say this. Other people usually get uncomfortable.
everybody is racialized in this country...everybody has to deal with race and color....not everybody is a racist in someway.


Affirmative action = racism. stereotyping = racism.

Whether a remark* is good or bad, it is still racism. I'm asian, i have an asian superiority complex when it comes to intellect... it's actually racist for me to think that Asians will always be the smart ones of the world. Black people will most likely be the most athletic race in the world, that's racist. White people are probably always going to be the richest in the world, that's racist. Asian people have small penises, that's racist.

like i said, whether it be good or bad, everyone's a racist in some way.

edit:
like i said, i don't condone how he feels.



To me, these assumptions fit more into the stereotype rather than racism itself. Stereotypes are labels we as society place on people of certain races in the form of assumptions.

For Instance:

All Mexicans can't drive based on how much damage is on their cars or how hard they are on cars.
All Blacks who where hoodies are thugs looking for trouble.
All Whites are consider rich and living in the best houses money can buy.
All Jewish own and control the media and entertainment industry.
All Muslims take about jihads against Americans every five minutes.

These to me are examples of stereotypes in today's society.




On a personal note as an African American, it's continues to be insulting and callous that we continue to live in a world where racism continues to poison the mindset of others. To think that someone of another race is inferior or don't deserve the right to equality as the next person. It's asinine and insane that some of us in the human race will not look beyond skin color and what neighborhood we live in or where we're from. That bulls**t don't matter. What matters is what our characterisitcs say about us? What our actions say about us? What our work ethic say about us? What our human history say about us? We as human beings have to do a better job to get beyond our differences and find solutions to end the ongoing poison known as racism.

To the Clippers fans here: I'm sorry that you guys are going through this tumultuous controversy. If I'm the players on the Clippers. Don't play for the Clippers. Play for Team Unity, Play to overcome ignorance, play for your fans. To the fans, cheer for Team Unity, cheer for racial equality, cheer for your team so f**kin loud that hate gets blown out of the STAPLES Center.
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#282 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:32 pm

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i don't know all of our sponsors.

do we have any left?


If we do we probably won't by the end of the day. Ha
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#283 » by NekiEcko » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:38 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Please don't move the team though. I would even take a name change if we had to after all this.


Greeting from ATL,

First of all, yall guys does not deserve this much grief from this controversy, period. You guys have a opportunity to get to the Finals this year but because of this owner, all of that is put to the backburner. I will be rooting for the team and fans (with my Hawks as well)

To TheNewEra, I hope that there is somebody with a very huge pockets because if teams like Kings and Bucks is getting 550+mil to get sold, how much you think that Clippers will go for? I think a 1 bil or higher and there is limited people that can do that (Ellison and Balmer is two off top of my head). Clippers deserves to stay there but it is going to be a pretty penny for that.
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#284 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:47 pm

Quake Griffin wrote:yea, the comment, "everybody's a racist in some way anyway" reflects more about you than society.

you don't have to prove that with your thoughts...even though you did.


I think he's stretching the terms 'racist' and 'racism' more than you and I might. If we're not in common agreement about what the words actually mean, then there's no point in arguing about who is or isn't a 'racist', or whether everyone is really 'a little bit racist'. For example, I'm not interested in a long drawn out debate about what affirmative action is or isn't. I don't believe it is necessarily 'racist' though, at least according to this definition of racism:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
rac·ism
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noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


(whether affirmative action is good, bad, works, doesn't work, etc. is something I have no desire to touch with a 10-foot pole either, at least in a Clipper forum.)

And just because one might perceive differences in certain characteristics (physical, cultural, whatever) among different ethnic groups, doesn't seem to make one racist (even just a little bit) by this definition:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
rac·ist [rey-sist] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.
adjective
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#285 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:50 pm

NekiEcko wrote:Greeting from ATL,

First of all, yall guys does not deserve this much grief from this controversy, period. You guys have a opportunity to get to the Finals this year but because of this owner, all of that is put to the backburner. I will be rooting for the team and fans (with my Hawks as well)


Thanks, and thanks to all the other posters who have posted similar sentiments. This whole thing has been ugly, ugly, UGLY, and has really take a shine off our postseason for me. For me, it's just going to feel like the 900-ton elephant in the room whether we get swept out by Warriors, or win the title. I think eventually Sterling will sell, I just don't know that it will happen soon (i.e. before end of playoffs.)
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#286 » by KDRE » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:58 pm

I just have a bad feeling about this and he won't be outed like he needs to be

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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#287 » by mttwlsn16 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:58 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
NekiEcko wrote:Greeting from ATL,

First of all, yall guys does not deserve this much grief from this controversy, period. You guys have a opportunity to get to the Finals this year but because of this owner, all of that is put to the backburner. I will be rooting for the team and fans (with my Hawks as well)


Thanks, and thanks to all the other posters who have posted similar sentiments. This whole thing has been ugly, ugly, UGLY, and has really take a shine off our postseason for me. For me, it's just going to feel like the 900-ton elephant in the room whether we get swept out by Warriors, or win the title. I think eventually Sterling will sell, I just don't know that it will happen soon (i.e. before end of playoffs.)


No way before the end of the playoffs. If we somehow get our heads straight and managed to win it all he would want one last cash in before a big cash in of selling, if he's willing to do that. Which I have my doubts
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#288 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:59 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Doc seems to have lost the grip on the team. He wants them to focus but reports are saying the team is thinking of bigger protests.


The team is obviously shook, as are many people. Doc needs to dance a fine line here to try to re-focus the team positively, but still acknowledge the impact of what has happened. Some things are bigger than the game.

Even Doc is not sure whether he'll be back next year.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2044 ... ontroversy

Even if the Clippers are able to pull it together on the floor, the stink of Sterling will be hanging there until there is some sort of resolution.
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#289 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:01 pm

mttwlsn16 wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
NekiEcko wrote:Greeting from ATL,

First of all, yall guys does not deserve this much grief from this controversy, period. You guys have a opportunity to get to the Finals this year but because of this owner, all of that is put to the backburner. I will be rooting for the team and fans (with my Hawks as well)


Thanks, and thanks to all the other posters who have posted similar sentiments. This whole thing has been ugly, ugly, UGLY, and has really take a shine off our postseason for me. For me, it's just going to feel like the 900-ton elephant in the room whether we get swept out by Warriors, or win the title. I think eventually Sterling will sell, I just don't know that it will happen soon (i.e. before end of playoffs.)


No way before the end of the playoffs. If we somehow get our heads straight and managed to win it all he would want one last cash in before a big cash in of selling, if he's willing to do that. Which I have my doubts


Yeah, I agree. I think Sterling will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into selling the team, I doubt he really feels any remorse and probably just wants to tell the NBA to f--- off.
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#290 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:10 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
Quake Griffin wrote:yea, the comment, "everybody's a racist in some way anyway" reflects more about you than society.

you don't have to prove that with your thoughts...even though you did.


I think he's stretching the terms 'racist' and 'racism' more than you and I might. If we're not in common agreement about what the words actually mean, then there's no point in arguing about who is or isn't a 'racist', or whether everyone is really 'a little bit racist'. For example, I'm not interested in a long drawn out debate about what affirmative action is or isn't. I don't believe it is necessarily 'racist' though, at least according to this definition of racism:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
rac·ism
[rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


(whether affirmative action is good, bad, works, doesn't work, etc. is something I have no desire to touch with a 10-foot pole either, at least in a Clipper forum.)

And just because one might perceive differences in certain characteristics (physical, cultural, whatever) among different ethnic groups, doesn't seem to make one racist (even just a little bit) by this definition:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
rac·ist [rey-sist] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.
adjective
2.
of or like racists or racism: racist policies; racist attitudes.

I know exactly what he meant.

I double majored in undergrad at UCSB in Political Science and Black Studies. I got the Political Science degree just so people couldn't hate on my education if I went the Black Studies route only/ to stay competitive.

I truly need no education on the word racist or racism.
but it seems like everybody in America with a pulse feels like they're a race aficionado and that their opinion means something.

kind of like he did earlier.
but i am in agreement with u...100%
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#291 » by NBAWestFan » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:22 pm

Clippers value lost $150 million

Might be $200 million in the last 3 days
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Post#292 » by Ranma » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:25 pm

You're not helping the cause, Larry.

Marc Berman, New York Post (4/28/14)
The initial indication was Johnson was calling for an all-African-American league complete with black ownership. It wasn’t the first time Johnson, who is black, concerned himself with the fact the NBA’s ownership is mostly white while its players are mostly black.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheRealLJ2/status/460157093954486272[/tweet]
During the 1999 NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs, Johnson caused a stir by saying: “We’ve got a lot of rebellious slaves on this [Knicks] team.”

Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco


Yeah, it's the Post, as you call tell by referring to Larry Johnson as "great" but LJ's comments and mentality ain't exactly helping matters.
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Post#293 » by azncorruptedo17 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:27 pm

Ranma wrote:You're not helping the cause, Larry.

Marc Berman, New York Post (4/28/14)
The initial indication was Johnson was calling for an all-African-American league complete with black ownership. It wasn’t the first time Johnson, who is black, concerned himself with the fact the NBA’s ownership is mostly white while its players are mostly black.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheRealLJ2/status/460157093954486272[/tweet]
During the 1999 NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs, Johnson caused a stir by saying: “We’ve got a lot of rebellious slaves on this [Knicks] team.”

Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco


Yeah, it's the Post, as you call tell by referring to Larry Johnson as "great" but LJ's comments and mentality ain't exactly helping matters.


I've always known him as a hornet. lol
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Post#294 » by FactorZ99 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:28 pm

Ranma wrote:You're not helping the cause, Larry.

Marc Berman, New York Post (4/28/14)
The initial indication was Johnson was calling for an all-African-American league complete with black ownership. It wasn’t the first time Johnson, who is black, concerned himself with the fact the NBA’s ownership is mostly white while its players are mostly black.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheRealLJ2/status/460157093954486272[/tweet]
During the 1999 NBA Finals between the Knicks and Spurs, Johnson caused a stir by saying: “We’ve got a lot of rebellious slaves on this [Knicks] team.”

Knicks great calls for all-black league amid Clippers race fiasco


Yeah, it's the Post, as you call tell by referring to Larry Johnson as "great" but LJ's comments and mentality ain't exactly helping matters.


It's segregation. I understand that he would like to see more black owners, but that (an all-black league) won't make things better. It would be the Negro Leagues all over again.
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#295 » by Don Tommy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:48 pm

Doc is starting to piss me off. If he didn't know about Sterling before he signed his contact he's a moron. Instead of talking about next year he should be leading his team. He should be a leader and try to rally the troops, not say he disagreed with their pregame protest. I was taught how to be a leader in the military and this isn't it.
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Post#296 » by Don Tommy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:54 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:Clippers value lost $150 million

Might be $200 million in the last 3 days


They haven't lost a penny. The second the bidding starts, more rich people will fall all over themselves trying to buy a team in Los Angeles. The sponsors dropping may even be a good thing for a new owner. They can now come in with all the attention focused on the "new" Clippers, and charge more for being the "official" whatever if the L.A.Clippers.
There will be over one billion dollars spent to buy the team, the bandwagon will get bigger, Doc will coach CP3 and Blake, and Sterling will continue on in life as an even richer a-hole, but we won't have to be embarrassed by him anymore
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#297 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:14 pm

Don Tommy wrote:Doc is starting to piss me off. If he didn't know about Sterling before he signed his contact he's a moron. Instead of talking about next year he should be leading his team. He should be a leader and try to rally the troops, not say he disagreed with their pregame protest. I was taught how to be a leader in the military and this isn't it.


That struck me as odd too. It's not as if they tried to wear their jerseys inside-out during the game (that would have been funny though-)
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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#299 » by Quake Griffin » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:25 pm

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Re: What are we gonna do about Donald Sterling- new allegati 

Post#300 » by Don Tommy » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:39 pm

I just got a message from an old Navy buddy of mine, has anyone else heard this? Did Sterling ASK HER to make the tapes? The tapes weren't a sting operation at all, rather he asked her to make the tapes cause he was having a hard time remembering stuff? If so, this is great! Reading the Lester Munson article that someone posted from ESPN earlier, that doesn't matter, but he has even less room to try and weasel his way outta this if he knew he was being recorded!

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