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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1181 » by leswizards » Tue May 6, 2014 7:11 pm

milellie111 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:
milellie111 wrote:

Please, if you will, highlight were I am passively aggressively attacking people:



And you talk about me.................


Except mine is just a typo. Left out the "h" unintentionally.

You on the other hand...


I am not much of a fan of the grammar police, as my grammar is not that good. But since milellie111 is such an obnoxious troll:

"Left out the "h" unintentionally." is an incomplete sentence.

Given the context "You on the other hand..." should probably be "Your's on the other hand..."
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1182 » by leswizards » Tue May 6, 2014 7:13 pm

milellie111 wrote:lol!! Right! Say's the poster who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" :D

And you're the dumbest fan if you believe what an owner tells the media.

Teds goal is to maximize profits and win a championship. Like every owner. Not just to make the playoffs.



"Like every owner." is another incomplete sentence.

"Not just to make the playoffs." is another incomplete sentence.

"Teds goal" should be "Ted's goal"
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1183 » by milellie111 » Tue May 6, 2014 7:14 pm

Nivek wrote:
milellie111 wrote:
leswizards wrote:
You do realize that this thread is 59 pages long with numerous people fighting him over numerous comments. If you are implying that I am butt hurt over the phrase proves doubters wrong, you are wrong.


lol

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Nah man, don't see how anyone could think you were trolling.


Why would anyone jump to that conclusion? Because i posted an image? Just like this guy:

tontoz wrote:Image



and this guy:

TGW wrote:Image

But to be fair to millelie, he has shown some diversity in his posts:
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1184 » by MikeTheKid » Tue May 6, 2014 7:17 pm

milellie111 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:
milellie111 wrote:

Please, if you will, highlight were I am passively aggressively attacking people:



And you talk about me.................


Except mine is just a typo. Left out the "h" unintentionally.

You on the other hand...


Sorry but I just had to be a douche about it lol
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1185 » by Kanyewest » Tue May 6, 2014 7:21 pm

verbal8 wrote:It is a huge strecth, but you can get there:

Bibby - $6 million
Arenas/Lewis deal - $43 million(only paid for one year of Lewis vs. 3 of Arenas)
$23 million Blatche Amnesty -> ~$40 million in luxury tax payments
Declined Vesley option - $4.3 million
Declined Chris Singleton option $2.5 million
Miller - $2.5 million unguarranteed next season
Webster - $5.8 million unguarranteed final season

Total $104.1 million

Since I have a self-imposed moratorium on EG bashing during the Wizards play-off run, I will leave it to others to dispute these numbers.


Traded Antawn Jamison for Big Z (expiring) + 1st. The remaining final 2 years of Jamison's deal were 28 million.

When buying out Big Z the Wizards saved $1.5 million.
A source tells ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher that it cost Ilgauskas $1.5 million of his salary to secure his buyout from the Wizards. Giving that money up was made more painful by the fact that he was paid up front by the Cavs, which meant he had to write a check for $1.5 million to the Wizards to pay for the right to be waived.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4945097

The Maynor/Jan Vesely/Andre Miller trade saved $300,000

Some of the savings came from giving out bad contracts while others came when the Wizards started rebuilding (trading Jamison, Arenas, Hinrich, Butler, Stevenson, etc)
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1186 » by montestewart » Tue May 6, 2014 7:38 pm

milellie111 wrote:
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Brenice wrote:
See the bold text.


You do realize that this thread is 59 pages long with numerous people fighting him over numerous comments. If you are implying that I am butt hurt over the phrase proves doubters wrong, you are wrong.


lol

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All these "butt hurt" references, and since I'm not adept at using the phrase, I really don't know if it's referencing corporal punishment, hemorrhoids, or a sex act. If it's the last, I like how it manages to encompass sexism, homophobia, and prudishness at once. Very collegiate.

This debate is far from rock bottom but seems a little stuck. Too bad there isn't some variation of the bat signal to summon WizD for comment. His perspective is sorely (probably not to the degree of butt hurt) needed.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1187 » by TGW » Tue May 6, 2014 8:09 pm

Mark Jackson gets fired off a 51-win season.
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1188 » by DCZards » Tue May 6, 2014 8:14 pm

TGW wrote:Mark Jackson gets fired off a 51-win season.


Yeah, it obviously wasn't about the W-L record in Golden St. There was some behind the scenes stuff that was apparently ugly...and Jackson reportedly had little or no support in the upper echelons of the organization. Playes loved him though.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1189 » by fishercob » Tue May 6, 2014 8:23 pm

montestewart wrote:
milellie111 wrote:
leswizards wrote:
You do realize that this thread is 59 pages long with numerous people fighting him over numerous comments. If you are implying that I am butt hurt over the phrase proves doubters wrong, you are wrong.


lol

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All these "butt hurt" references, and since I'm not adept at using the phrase, I really don't know if it's referencing corporal punishment, hemorrhoids, or a sex act. If it's the last, I like how it manages to encompass sexism, homophobia, and prudishness at once. Very collegiate.

This debate is far from rock bottom but seems a little stuck. Too bad there isn't some variation of the bat signal to summon WizD for comment. His perspective is sorely (probably not to the degree of butt hurt) needed.


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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1190 » by closg00 » Tue May 6, 2014 8:26 pm

TGW wrote:Mark Jackson gets fired off a 51-win season.


We can still dream of a similar announcement re: Ernie after this season can't-we? :nod:
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Post#1191 » by milellie111 » Tue May 6, 2014 9:05 pm

TGW wrote:Mark Jackson gets fired off a 51-win season.


Whoever the replacement will be has to match or increase production of Jacksons impact. Otherwise this is a foolish move and a step backwards. Very risky indeed.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1192 » by milellie111 » Tue May 6, 2014 9:12 pm

closg00 wrote:
TGW wrote:Mark Jackson gets fired off a 51-win season.


We can still dream of a similar announcement re: Ernie after this season can't-we? :nod:


And replace with some of the GM options named previously? How do we know they will fit in to Teds plan? If they were the Wizards GM right now, would this team be where it is today? Would they have signed Ariza and Gortat? Would they have built this group of guys who mesh now? What coach would they have hired? So many unanswered questions.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1193 » by hands11 » Tue May 6, 2014 9:33 pm

Brenice wrote:
Jay81 wrote:your telling other GM's that basically i will give you 10 years of non accountability if you take the job


You got to seperate the Ernie era by the Abe era and the Ted era.

Leonsis acquired the Wizards in 2010. Ernie acquired Nene, Gortat, Beal, Wall, Ariza all during the Ted era, in other words the whole starting 5 that no team seams to be able to stop, that also rebounds and defends, and has chemistry. The miss during Ted's era is Vesely and who else? A couple 2nd round picks, trading a first round pick in the next draft, and a backup point guard? Keep in mind, unlike Miller and Foye, Ariza and Gortat would like to re-sign here. Why wouldn't they want to? Gortat is already talking about training with Wall during the off-season, perfecting the pick and roll. Ariza has never played with anybody like he is with the Wizards. He is in his ultimate role.

Everything else happened during the Abe era.


:clap:

Its about time.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1194 » by hands11 » Tue May 6, 2014 9:49 pm

DCZards wrote:
fishercob wrote:I don't understand why after doing something the franchise hasn't done since 1982, someone would take to a message board to declare victory for their allegiance to an executive. No do I understand why ardent fans of the same team would be so consumed with their dislike for an executive when the team is actually playing well.

Lock this thread until the playoff are done!



Yeah, this pro-EG, anti-EG debate kinda reminds me of Capitol Hill where the extremists on both sides of the aisle shout at each other and use the same set of facts to make opposite arguments. I'm sensing a little desperation from the anti-EG side who realize that the handwriting is on the wall and EG will be here at least another year...for better or for worse.

I suspect that most Zard fans though are just enjoying the playoff ride and not getting into the weeds as to what EG shoulda, coulda done as far as trades, draft picks and other assets.

GO ZARDS!


A little ? :lol:

These people are so vested in the years of wrong they have posted. It couldn't get much worse then this for them.

This isn't just that the team got better. They are kicking butt. Winning Game 1s on the road. Closing series early. They beat CHI 3 times on the road. :nod: They just took IND Game 1 on the road.

Tell people weren't just wrong, they were embarrishly wrong and faught ( still fighting ) it ever step of the way attacking everyone that tried to explain what we changing for the good and how it could work out.

Pick a thread. They are in there doing that.

All you are seeing more clearly now are the frauds that have been trolling this board for years getting exposure. Not saying every anti EG/Wiz poster is a troll. But its clear there is more then one of them.

And I expect they will continue to expose themselves with every passing day as more and more fans that support the team show up. Their days are numbers. This team isn't getting bad any time soon.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1195 » by hands11 » Tue May 6, 2014 10:02 pm

Brenice wrote:
Nivek wrote:But, at least Grunfeld assembled a team good enough to take advantage of the good fortune of a weak conference and a staggering top seed. And, why not enjoy some good fortune -- especially considering how crappy the franchise's luck has been for the past few decades.


Agreed. It's about time the Wizards were on the positive side of good fortune. Miami has been on the positive side of good fortune. Cleveland, Philly, and Jersey were all lucky too in getting to the Finals by playing in the East and they played in ERA's where there was no stacked teams in the East.

Even on the injury front, the Wizards were snake-bitten in the playoffs after Gil got hurt. But nationally, LeBron and Cleveland didn't get asterisks for beating an injury riddled Wizard team in the playoffs both those years. And Ernie is not getting an asterisk either for those injury riddled playoff appearances by those that are obsessed with him being fired.


Those past Wizards teams where often injured because EFJ ran them into the ground by the AS break.

Yeah Etan had his heart thing and some other things happened, but tired warn down players are more likely to come up lame. EFJ was always making dumb decision about that stuff. Bring AJ back just game before the AS break that one year when keeping him out would have meant another week of continues rest.

Things are better because we have a new owner.

Ted deserves and will get lots of credit for this turn around. He is a good owner.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1196 » by hands11 » Tue May 6, 2014 10:08 pm

milellie111 wrote:
leswizards wrote:
Brenice wrote:
See the bold text.


You do realize that this thread is 59 pages long with numerous people fighting him over numerous comments. If you are implying that I am butt hurt over the phrase proves doubters wrong, you are wrong.


lol

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:lol:
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1197 » by hands11 » Tue May 6, 2014 10:11 pm

milellie111 wrote:
Nivek wrote:
milellie111 wrote:
lol

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Nah man, don't see how anyone could think you were trolling.


Why would anyone jump to that conclusion? Because i posted an image? Just like this guy:

tontoz wrote:Image


and this guy:

TGW wrote:Image

But to be fair to millelie, he has shown some diversity in his posts:


Do you really not know the answer to that ?
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1198 » by TGW » Wed May 7, 2014 12:05 am

I suggest some of you use the anti-trolling feature i.e. the ignore list. Weeds out the junk on this board. :)

This post was made by milellie111 who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1199 » by montestewart » Wed May 7, 2014 12:07 am

hands11 wrote:These people are so vested in the years of wrong they have posted. It couldn't get much worse then this for them.

Easy hands, no need to get racist.
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Re: Grunfeld a Great GM. Proves Doubters Wrong 

Post#1200 » by hands11 » Wed May 7, 2014 2:26 pm

Ernie Grunfeld’s plan for Wizards is working, though many around NBA didn’t see it

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

Now that a certain Washington franchise is three wins from its first Eastern Conference finals appearance in 35 years, it’s easy to gloat, to say, “I told you so,” and go after the vermin who never thought the Wizards’ ownership, management and players would never amount to anything.

Damn... Its a take down :lol:

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