Kevin Love - Every team's best offer

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Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#1 » by LarsV8 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:05 pm

Every year, this always happens. People use the popular phrase "Other teams will offer more", which isn't always true. So instead of negotiating, or making demands, lets just make a list of every team's best offer for Kevin Love, for informational purposes only

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- Speak for your team only.
- Please refrain from saying "that is not enough for Love" or "Joke offer", we are simply making a list.
- If you disagree with another fan of your team, make your case and we will note it in the list.
- Ignore guaranteed extensions. This is Kevin Love the expiring contract.


I will update the listing in this post, as the offers some in.

Houston offers:
Asik/Lin/Jones/Dmo/ 2014 #1, 2016 #1, 2 #2's of Minny's choosing for Love/Martin

Cleveland offers:
A.) Tristan Thomas, 2014 #9 for Love
B.) #9, future Memphis first (protected 1-5-, 13-30), Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters (Dissension among fans)


Philly offers:
Thad, Noel + #10 for Love + #13 (Other Philly fans hate it)

Boston offers:
A.) #5, Green and choice of Sullinger or Olynyk + take back bad contract.
B.) Similar deal but use of TPE and non guarantees to relieve more salaries.
C.) Sullinger, Green, Bass, filler + Celtics and Sixers 2015, Nets 2016, Celtics 2017, Nets 2018 for Love/Shved

GSW offers:
A.) Lee, Speights and Barnes for Love/Budinger
B.) Lee/Thompson/Speights for Love/Buddinger (or Martin or Brewer, Minny's choice).

Suns offer:
Morris twins, #14, #17, LAL #1 pick in 2015 (Some fans hate it)

Pelicans offer:
Anderson, Gordon, 2015 #1, 2016 #1, for Love/Martin

Nuggets offer:
Wilson Chandler, Evan Fournier, #11 for Love

Chicago offer:
Taj, Snell, #16, #19, the Sacramento pick, 2016 #1 (or 2015#1 depending on timing)

Toronto offers:
Derozan, Amir, Salmons, #20, Future NYK pick, 2016 #1 for Love + filler

Brooklyn offers:
Lopez, Plumlee, Teletovic, Thornton, Livingston, rights to Bogdanovic, Karaman, Bavcic, '19 pick swap, '20#1
For
Love, Martin, Budinger, LRMM


Kings offers:
#7, 2018 1st rounder (unprotected), McLemore, Evans, Outlaw, Terry for Love

Wizards offers:
A.) Beal, Porter, Miller, Cash and 2017 #1 for Love
B.) Beal, Nene, #1 for Love/Martin

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Dallas, Utah, OKC, Pistons and Orlando
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Re: Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#2 » by jbk1234 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:12 pm

LarsV8 wrote:Every year, this always happens. People use the popular phrase "Other teams will offer more", which isn't always true. So instead of negotiating, or making demands, lets just make a list of every team's best offer for Kevin Love, for informational purposes only

Ground Rules
- Speak for your team only.
- Please refrain from saying "that is not enough for Love" or "Joke offer", we are simply making a list.
- If you disagree with another fan of your team, make your case and we will note it in the list.
- Ignore guaranteed extensions. This is Kevin Love the expiring contract.


I will update the listing in this post, as the offers some in.

Houston offers:
Asik/Lin/Jones/Dmo/2 #1, 2 #2's for Love/Martin


As Love has reportedly already indicated that he wants to go to Chicago or GS, aren't those really the only two teams that matter? I mean the Cavs best offer if they thought they could re-sign him will be very different than their best offer if they think they can't.
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Re: Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#3 » by LarsV8 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:16 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
As Love has reportedly already indicated that he wants to go to Chicago or GS, aren't those really the only two teams that matter? I mean the Cavs best offer if they thought they could re-sign him will be very different than their best offer if they think they can't.


Nope, Cavs should make an offer and base that offer on the information that they have.
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Post#4 » by jbk1234 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:20 pm

LarsV8 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
As Love has reportedly already indicated that he wants to go to Chicago or GS, aren't those really the only two teams that matter? I mean the Cavs best offer if they thought they could re-sign him will be very different than their best offer if they think they can't.


Nope, Cavs should make an offer and base that offer on the information that they have.


Based on current information - Cavs offer TT and No. 9.
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Re: Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#5 » by AQuintus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 pm

LarsV8 wrote:2 #1, 2 #2's


New Rule:

If you're going to list a 1st or 2nd as an asset, you should have to say the exact number that the 1st or 2nd will be.

The 1st pick in the draft is a 1st. The 30th pick in the draft is also a 1st. They're both 1sts, but they have wildly different value.
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Post#6 » by Sasaki » Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 pm

There is no way the Rockets will get Kevin Love without including Chandler Parsons. None.
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Post#7 » by AQuintus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:23 pm

jbk1234 wrote:As Love has reportedly already indicated that he wants to go to Chicago or GS


"Reportedly"

Other reports say he likes New York or LA.

Others say he hasn't asked out at all.
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Post#8 » by LarsV8 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:25 pm

Sasaki wrote:There is no way the Rockets will get Kevin Love without including Chandler Parsons. None.


Thanks for not reading.
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:26 pm

AQuintus wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:As Love has reportedly already indicated that he wants to go to Chicago or GS


"Reportedly"

Other reports say he likes New York or LA.

Others say he hasn't asked out at all.


Before the Sterling fiasco, I would have believed LAC. I have no reason to doubt that he'd like to play for Chicago or GS.
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Re: Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#10 » by AQuintus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:32 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Before the Sterling fiasco, I would have believed LAC. I have no reason to doubt that he'd like to play for Chicago or GS.


Neither do I. I also have no reason to doubt that he'd like to play for LAL, Boston, Houston, Phoenix, OKC, or any of the other top playoff teams.
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Post#11 » by DowJones » Sun May 18, 2014 11:40 pm

Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters
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Post#12 » by eliasrapp98 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:47 pm

Philly does Noel and #10 for Love and #13

Basically a Love-Noel swap where Minny gets a slightly higher pick as well. ***Thad could be thrown in as well.

Philly then tries to sign..... LEBRON


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Post#13 » by jbk1234 » Sun May 18, 2014 11:53 pm

DowJones wrote:Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters


No they don't. Seriously - Waiters isn't going anywhere unless Love indicates he'll sign an extension with the Cavs. That trade could ruin the franchise for a decade if he walks next year.
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Post#14 » by AQuintus » Sun May 18, 2014 11:56 pm

DowJones wrote:Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters


Including Bennett actually makes that offer worse.
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Post#15 » by DowJones » Mon May 19, 2014 12:00 am

jbk1234 wrote:
DowJones wrote:Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters


No they don't. Seriously - Waiters isn't going anywhere unless Love indicates he'll sign an extension with the Cavs. That trade could ruin the franchise for a decade if he walks next year.


LOL....you talk like Cleveland is on the cusp of something great. Cleveland is dangerously close to overpaying average players ala Detroit.
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Post#16 » by Texas Chuck » Mon May 19, 2014 12:02 am

Dallas declines to make an offer.

Not because we wouldnt have interest, tho he's hardly the best pairing with Dirk, but because our offer would have to be primarily about eating longterm contracts. And no way Minny wants to use Love to dump salary without getting a top notch asset back and we obviously don't have that.
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Re: Kevin Love - Every team's best offer 

Post#17 » by DowJones » Mon May 19, 2014 12:02 am

AQuintus wrote:
DowJones wrote:Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters


Including Bennett actually makes that offer worse.


Put Tristan Thompson in instead of AB if you like.
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Post#18 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:03 am

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jbk1234 wrote:
DowJones wrote:Cleveland offers...

-#9 overall pick
-Future 1st from Memphis that is protected in a way that makes sure it will be in the 6-12 range
-Anthony Bennett
-Dion Waiters


No they don't. Seriously - Waiters isn't going anywhere unless Love indicates he'll sign an extension with the Cavs. That trade could ruin the franchise for a decade if he walks next year.


LOL....you talk like Cleveland is on the cusp of something great. Cleveland is dangerously close to overpaying average players ala Detroit.


I don't want to jack this thread but within two years Waiters may prove to be the best player currently on the Cavs roster.
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Post#19 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:05 am

I would not make this offer, and Presti wouldn't either, but for the sake of trying to get the value down, OKC offers Ibaka, Lamb, 29 for Love.
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Post#20 » by j-ragg » Mon May 19, 2014 12:11 am

Don't think Orlando would make an offer either. We wouldn't give up much because he wants to be in the spotlight in a big market. Don't really need more stars bolting to LA.
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